it it wasn’t the real zodiac then it was an homage to his/her hero. remaining anonymous but making sure the murder(s) were attributed to him.
But that’s a lot of "what ifs" attached to why. It just seems more likely that it was Z than not, because of that.
Why would someone want to pay homage, dress in disguise, go out of the way to make everything as zodiac as possible, including phoning law enforcement, but never hear from him again?
1. I believe he wrote the Desk Poem.
2. I believe he wrote the ‘Confession’ letter.
3. I believe he wrote on the car door at LB.
To add my own thoughts on the LB variations. Well he does deviate on the next one so there’s a precedent shown immediately for changing MO. Berryessa gets focused on because of that hood. If we consider the first deviation though it makes it slightly less odd. It’s daylight. It’s also semi public. Not very, granted, but he was calculating the risks I believe. That for me explains the second deviation. The knife. It’s quieter. He may have used the gun but it served it’s purpose. Control. The third variation, if you will, is all part of that. That being the conversation. I don’t believe it has anything to do with MO. Not in the traditional sense. All of that was a means to an end to achieve his plan which was to kill, in daylight and as quietly as he can manage. Get them tied up, stab them.
I think Zodiac’s base MO was don’t get caught and as such he planned his attacks and tried to cover as many bases or eventualities as possible. You may cite nearly getting caught at PH but he didn’t and I believe there was planning there. Initially anyway as to how he would approach it and the type of crime. Cabbie robbery. Again though there’s the issue of concealment of identity. At LHR it’s pitch black. At BRS he blinds them (somewhat) with the flashlight. At LB there’s the hood and sunglasses and at PH we don’t know but he hints at the possibility of disguise.
I really can’t buy a copycat scenario this early on in his campaign. I mean sure nothing’s impossible but, assuming it was a copycat, he really did his homework (assuming the info was out there). He studies the handwriting, the phonecall MO and even leaves the phone off the hook to avoid call back.
There probably a ‘variations’ thread around here someplace all this should go into.
“I don’t know Chief, he’s very smart or very dumb.“
it it wasn’t the real zodiac then it was an homage to his/her hero. remaining anonymous but making sure the murder(s) were attributed to him.
But that’s a lot of "what ifs" attached to why. It just seems more likely that it was Z than not, because of that.
Why would someone want to pay homage, dress in disguise, go out of the way to make everything as zodiac as possible, including phoning law enforcement, but never hear from him again?
To get away with it.
Zodiac didn’t don a disguise at BRS or S.F. It was unique to one crime. The phone call mimics what was mentioned in the paper regarding BRS. The caller even corrected himself, "no, a DOUBLE murder".
I think we may have heard from this person again. Did he kill again? Who knows, and who knows what may have become of him after.
Why do psychos do crazy things? Why do people take credit for crimes they didn’t commit? Very odd indeed.
“…they may be dealing with one or more ersatz Zodiacs–other psychotics eager to get into the act, or perhaps even other murderers eager to lay their crimes at the real Zodiac’s doorstep.“ L.A. Times, 1969
1. I believe he knew the Bay Area very well — not just the Vallejo area, but the city too.
2. I believe he was older than his victims. Not by double, but by some years.
3. I believe he had an unique background — either first or second generation American, from a military family, or some situation that kept him from assimilating with his peers.
Fun topic
1. I believe Foulke and the other officer pulled up to zodiac and asked him if he saw a black male in the area.
2. I believe zodiac has been questioned by law enforcement regarding being zodiac.
3. Major details and clues are being withheld by law enforcement. They might know who it is just lack enough evidence for conviction.
1. Zodiac was an asshole (personality trait)
2. Zodiac lived or worked in or near Vallejo area to be familiar with it
3. The 340 is gibberish
just my opinion
1. Zodiac was an asshole (personality trait)
2. Zodiac lived or worked in or near Vallejo area to be familiar with it
3. The 340 is gibberishjust my opinion
For sure agree with #1. Not just because of what he did, that is a given. I think he was probably that way in everyday life.
“…they may be dealing with one or more ersatz Zodiacs–other psychotics eager to get into the act, or perhaps even other murderers eager to lay their crimes at the real Zodiac’s doorstep.“ L.A. Times, 1969
1. Zodiac was responsible for Lake Herman Road, Blue Rock Springs, and Presidio Heights. It was an imposter at Lake Berryessa.
2. The description those teenagers gave at PH, including both the sketch and size estimates, was dead-on accurate. So accurate in fact that it drove Z underground as far as committing more crimes as Z.
3. He was either military or ex-military, and/or in some no-nonsense type profession like plumber, brick layer, construction, etc. Maybe even a mail carrier or delivery driver. The short crew-cut would be consistent with military and a redneck personality, and the stocky build would imply heavy work which kept him in good shape. I think he was the kind of guy who had little patience for the Hippie Movement and young people in general.
[warning: Marshall is about to cheat with a #4]
4. He has not been identified as a POI yet. This guy was a relative loner, moderate to heavy drinker, unpleasant to be around.
BTW I approach this whole thing with an open mind and look forward to opposing views that are persuesive. 6 months ago I was a Ross guy, for instance. Best argument wins in my book and so far, this is where I’m at.
Some kewl thoughts on this case you all have…
My lil list in no particular order
Gay
Preachers kid
Some knowledge of law enforcement
Not involved in anti war movement
High IQ
Artsy likes and possibly berkley student
Was prior residing in riverside
Died in 1977 week after elvis because no need to live further and it didn’t look like the A’s would ever win again
Died in 1977 week after elvis because no need to live further and it didn’t look like the A’s would ever win again
Made me laugh hard!
1. Zodiac was responsible for Lake Herman Road, Blue Rock Springs, and Presidio Heights. It was an imposter at Lake Berryessa.
2. The description those teenagers gave at PH, including both the sketch and size estimates, was dead-on accurate. So accurate in fact that it drove Z underground as far as committing more crimes as Z.
3. He was either military or ex-military, and/or in some no-nonsense type profession like plumber, brick layer, construction, etc. Maybe even a mail carrier or delivery driver. The short crew-cut would be consistent with military and a redneck personality, and the stocky build would imply heavy work which kept him in good shape. I think he was the kind of guy who had little patience for the Hippie Movement and young people in general.
[warning: Marshall is about to cheat with a #4]
4. He has not been identified as a POI yet. This guy was a relative loner, moderate to heavy drinker, unpleasant to be around.
BTW I approach this whole thing with an open mind and look forward to opposing views that are persuesive. 6 months ago I was a Ross guy, for instance. Best argument wins in my book and so far, this is where I’m at.
I am with you the first 3 . the more in depth i look into the case the more and more i agree with your first 3 points.
I believe the Zodiac was a blonde young guy in the Army, a frustrated army clerk or construction engineer and stationed at the Presidio, FT Ord or Travis AFB.
I believe the Zodiac sign is actually a 35th division Army patch, used the first time under the words no address, which was a lie, It WAS his address.
I believe the Zodiac was out of the country in Vietnam or Korea during the 7 mos the Killings stopped.
3 more for you too..
I believe the composite drawing is not accurate.
I believe he knew Donna Lass, a Letterman Nurse, and for reasons of self preservation he killed her since he may have previously borrowed her car or obtained drugs from her. Zodiac is also the reason Donna left a good Army nursing job.
I believe he was also bi sexual
I believe the Zodiac was a blonde young guy in the Army, a frustrated army clerk or construction engineer and stationed at the Presidio, FT Ord or Travis AFB.
I believe the Zodiac sign is actually a 35th division Army patch, used the first time under the words no address, which was a lie, It WAS his address.
I believe the Zodiac was out of the country in Vietnam or Korea during the 7 mos the Killings stopped.3 more for you too..
I believe the composite drawing is not accurate.
I believe he knew Donna Lass, a Letterman Nurse, and for reasons of self preservation he killed her since he may have previously borrowed her car or obtained drugs from her. Zodiac is also the reason Donna left a good Army nursing job.
I believe he was also bi sexual
Well that is interesting do you have a poi ?
yes
yes
have you posted it on here ?
Do you care to share ?
