RH was the signature on the desktop poem. And it was hidden on the underside of a desk, so it wasn’t for public consumption.

on the Halloween card (I think), there’s the line about " … you ache to know my name … " Why does he write it so awkwardly? To make the pun with "ache" which is also "H"

Hello, Nora.

First, there is no evidence linking Bates to the Zodiac.

Second, there is no evidence linking the desk top poem to the Zodiac.

Third, there is no evidence linking the desk top poem to Bates.

You would not get far trying to solve the Zodiac mystery looking for subjects whose initials are "RH."

First, there is no evidence linking Bates to the Zodiac.

Well that’s some nonsense.

Here’s some more nonsense…

Second, there is no evidence linking the desk top poem to the Zodiac.

Third, there is no evidence linking the desk top poem to Bates.

You would not get far trying to solve the Zodiac mystery looking for subjects whose initials are "RH."

RH was the signature on the desktop poem. And it was hidden on the underside of a desk, so it wasn’t for public consumption.

on the Halloween card (I think), there’s the line about " … you ache to know my name … " Why does he write it so awkwardly? To make the pun with "ache" which is also "H"

Here’s the problem I have with the initials. Would you put your own initials on a sick poem like that? Most would not. A bully might put even put someone else’s initials on it.

But it’s hard for me to believe that Z or someone else would put their own initials on it.

We really should be looking at a database of every male that attended RCC between 1964-1967 and dissecting from there, but as so much time has gone by it may be impossible. I can’t even find friends from High School that I graduated with in 1992!

Ross Sullivan is such a good suspect, too bad the alibi’s seem to check out.

I expressed some scepticism recently about the authenticity of the desktop poem. I’m not convinced it’s that much worse than a lot of graffiti. But in all reasonableness it’s not such a remote line of enquiry, in fact you could do a lot worse.

I usually find the most speculation about possible Zodiac clues to be daft, but I surprised myself when rereading for the hundredth time "ache to know my name", because just for a split second I thought, "you know that does sound a bit like a hint".

If the poem had been written after Bates’ murder it would either have no initials or it would have been written on top of the desk with initials designed to confuse LE or implicate someone the killer disliked. That it was written under the desk and initialed persuades me that the poem was written before Bates’ murder by an individual realizing homicidal thoughts and attempting to deal with them by writing a morbid "poem."

I tend to agree, for the most part with Dag and Replaceable Head.

I have to say, from a "colleague of Joseph Bates" theory perspective …. the Desktop Poem is a bit of a stumbling block. Because I do think it was written on a separate occasion. It is more likely that the poem points to a fellow student or a serial killer "hunting" at that location. Of course, it doesn’t rule out that Z had followed her there on a different occasion and wrote the poem, or came back afterward.

I agree with Replaceable Head about clues. I’m usually skeptical to dismissive. But I do think the slanted writing on the envelope was a clue to how to read the 340. So Z is certainly capable of clues. And the "You ache to know my name" really stands out to me as a possible clue. Just because it’s so awkward to use "ache" there.

First, there is no evidence linking Bates to the Zodiac.

Well that’s some nonsense.

There is no evidence linking Bates to Zodiac. Feel free to post your evidence so we can debate it.

Here’s some more nonsense…

Second, there is no evidence linking the desk top poem to the Zodiac.

Third, there is no evidence linking the desk top poem to Bates.

You would not get far trying to solve the Zodiac mystery looking for subjects whose initials are "RH."

Again, feel free to post your evidence so we can debate it.

There is no evidence linking Bates to Zodiac. Feel free to post your evidence so we can debate it.

There is no evidence linking Bates to Zodiac. Feel free to post your evidence so we can debate it.

A picture of Sherwood Morrill is your "evidence?" As I am sure you were told before, because one of our guys claims to have told you, the methods used by Morrill are not accepted today. Therefore, his authentications are void.

1. The Zodiac never wrote on a desk to compare with desktop poem, and QDE’s know that plausible identification can only be made with like mediums.
2. The Zodiac never wrote in pencil on lined paper in capital letters so again there is no plausible comparison there.
3. That means there is no written or typed communication linking Bates to Zodiac. Maybe there was in 1966, but not in 2021.

You do not need to take our guys at their word. Make a call to your LE buddies in California, or ask any reputable QDE. They will tell you the same thing. Presenting outdated "evidence" is not going to help these fine up-and-coming investigators on this forum solve the mystery of the Zodiac.

You do not need to take our guys at their word.

Good, because I don’t. In fact, I think you’re a troll.

Presenting outdated "evidence" is not going to help these fine up-and-coming investigators on this forum solve the mystery of the Zodiac.

Well if we are talking 2021, nothing but DNA will motivate a prosecutor to bring charges. I am surprised your "guys" didn’t know that.

As I am sure you were told before, because one of our guys claims to have told you, the methods used by Morrill are not accepted today. Therefore, his authentications are void.

No, in fact they are not.