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Jarlve
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Posts: 2547
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Third iteration, 6 symbols have been expanded for both ciphers. The smokie33 is up to 129 symbols, which seems a bit high.

340:

AZdecrypt 0.993 (Reddit corpus 6-grams)

Manipulation operation(s): LengthSymbol(2,2,2,1,[:,^])

Score: 19088.02 Ioc: 0.06975534 Entropy: 3.965033 Chi-square: 44.92612 Characters: 340 Letters: 21

auimergetitsayhes
leantisoneouswith
nordownthethaican
seescrewereactive
lyouforsthatwayis
eeinarrowsoiament
ihadtohendtheusat
thentricallofplay
ssolditieandonlyy
ournedingressanoo
neishoutnonedyour
esdrintwhyyoucana
llysoillthandthei
rhalftheydudeyoud
ontswhyyoumenthou
tduringthebutothe
idywaslosparentha
ttheonedtosaysthe
taisessonloanwood
monaleisntmentwhi

Multiplicity: 0.3382353 Characters: 340 Symbols: 115 Bigrams: 16/1924 Sequential: 5791/4007

HER>plVPk|1LTG2d
Np!B(#}%DWY.<*sf)
ByŽcM"UZGW()L#†HJ
Spp7l8*V3p~$'Ru2
_9M,‡tjd|5FP0&4k/
p8R‘Fl-*dCkF>2D(
#5=vq%;2UcXGV.ˆL|
(G2Jfj#€?_NY‰I@L9
d<MQb[ZR2FBcyA64w
-ŠlUV’J]p7<FBy-
U`R/5tE|DYBpbTMx‚
2<clRJ|*5T4M.a&BF
‹69Sy#eN|5FBc(;8R
lGFN“f524b.cV4tgh
yBX1*:49CE>VUZ5-i
|c.3ŒB{(ƒp^.fMqG2
RcTmL16C<nFlWB|)L
or)WCWcP„SHT/()p
|FkdW<7tB_Y…B*-Cc
>MDHNpkSzZO8A|K;+


smokie33:

AZdecrypt 0.993 (Reddit corpus 6-grams)

Manipulation operation(s): LengthSymbol(2,2,2,1,[41,1])

Score: 19225.77 Ioc: 0.06994621 Entropy: 4.012528 Chi-square: 23.92109 Characters: 340 Letters: 22

orderlitpledonati
vefulcreacherthin
gatmakeeninitsstu
ffyoursetheringfr
iedhistoasagamesi
ddefineonceandthe
pdffordispointera
llingitcantionofi
tishorstagiwatche
sselfoundtohisopi
niongatamountsfor
theirtheareaofmyr
ightherestartersc
reenersfathersall
yaccounterperread
yinthisthethehell
getaccessesinotto
beeasyourithisfee
lobecausebuttheco
uldswhereisarltog

Multiplicity: 0.3794118 Characters: 340 Symbols: 129 Bigrams: 9/1428 Sequential: 5013/5097

21 46 125 35 10 33 2 50 11 63 30 26 6 27 39 57 51
90 40 34 101 33 4 10 16 106 4 7 121 52 19 47 61 22
48 42 58 107 13 5 17 18 20 59 28 55 24 8 49 57 53
25 64 65 66 102 10 43 16 44 45 17 46 55 67 108 109 52
55 18 91 47 62 56 92 6 38 9 39 48 38 110 40 49 55
26 31 30 126 51 27 35 6 122 68 35 42 28 31 19 69 30
11 26 34 34 70 12 26 2 56 71 6 62 60 24 16 36 13
3 33 93 20 48 61 58 37 111 27 32 51 6 28 21 25 55
32 62 8 47 6 52 43 57 72 48 61 73 38 44 4 45 16
49 56 40 33 74 6 53 94 26 32 6 112 2 8 123 113 59
27 55 95 22 48 42 57 114 75 21 76 103 19 9 77 127 46
50 78 30 61 52 24 47 17 13 12 18 13 6 25 79 80 10
2 48 7 96 104 16 52 17 8 24 39 97 44 18 10 49 81
12 40 35 27 40 36 9 25 42 44 45 17 10 56 42 33 3
115 39 4 37 82 53 98 83 16 10 11 17 10 46 18 13 31
84 2 20 32 105 55 116 58 7 16 57 117 17 47 16 85 99
48 18 50 38 124 100 16 43 43 18 49 51 60 6 118 24 21
86 17 18 38 56 128 6 87 52 2 57 7 88 56 25 17 35
3 6 119 16 89 38 129 56 17 29 120 32 1 45 18 37 41
53 33 26 56 23 47 14 10 54 2 9 39 52 3 57 6 15

AZdecrypt

 
Posted : April 24, 2016 11:15 am
Jarlve
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Interesting 340 plaintext that I found sitting in the directory, "missingofslaves", "thecops" though it scored less than the other but has a high entropy. It seems to turn up many instances of "the". Probably nothing?

340:

AZdecrypt 0.993 (Reddit corpus 6-grams)

Manipulation operation(s): LengthSymbol(2,2,2,1,[B,p])

Score: 19068.28 Ioc: 0.0600642 Entropy: 4.201913 Chi-square: 19.93451 Characters: 340 Letters: 24

portiseandthethei
rjustcloseandmywh
osaiillthethecops
upplesomakeyourfe
edingowithandands
moreascomindatest
chartofelichanget
theswwcoveralized
idijustreamissing
ofslaveswouldalso
larshootsaboutimm
edisrstmhtningava
liduscarthatitfor
sharewhenunianoff
suchmandnotalthou
tinkybutevenwithe
ritbehindbasedthe
mwhenbeinguptstha
tadiedloveanymoni
tisproductmostofy

Multiplicity: 0.3823529 Characters: 340 Symbols: 130 Bigrams: 10/1496 Sequential: 7019/5281

HER>™l^VPk|1LTG2d
Nš!Ž(#}%DWY.<*sf)
y:cM"UZGW()L#†HJ
S›œ7^l8*V3~$'Ru2
_9M,‡tjd|5FP0&4k/
ž8R^Fl-*dCkF>2D(
#5=vq%;2UcXGV.ˆL|
(G2Jfj#€?_NY‰I@L9
d<MQb[ZR2FcyA64w
-ŠlUV^J]Ÿ7<F‘y-
U`R/5tE|DY’ bTMx‚
2<clRJ|*5T4M.a&“F
‹69Sy#eN|5F”c(;8R
lGFN^f524b.cV4tgh
y•X1*:49CE>VUZ5-i
|c.3Œ–{(ƒ¡^.fMqG2
RcTmL16C<nFlW—|)L
or)WCWcP„SHT/()¢
|FkdW<7t˜_Y…B*-Cc
>MDHNpkSzZO8A|K;+

AZdecrypt

 
Posted : April 24, 2016 11:19 am
doranchak
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Posts: 2614
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auimergetitsayhesleantisoneouswithnordownthethaicanseescrewereactive
lyouforsthatwayiseeinarrowsoiamentihadtohendtheusatthentricallofplay
ssolditieandonlyyournedingressanooneishoutnonedyouresdrintwhyyoucana
llysoillthandtheirhalftheydudeyoudontswhyyoumenthoutduringthebutothe
idywaslosparenthattheonedtosaysthetaisessonloanwoodmonaleisntmentwhi

ACTIVELY REACTIVE

NARROWS INGRESS THATTHE

DURING ACTIVE NARROW PARENT ARROWS INGRES ONLOAN ANDTHE ANALLY TIVELY ONEISH

THEIR NOONE PLAYS SPARE ARENT CANAL ARROW REACT SHOUT SCREW MERGE CREWE LEANT ATTHE THEYD URING ANALL THETA OTHEI YOURE DONTS EINAR TOTHE SEEIN FORST NALLY THEON YOURN ANTIS SOLDI GRESS

WITH THAT THEY WERE THEN YOUR ONLY THAN DOWN SAYS HAND HALF PLAY NONE CALL WOOD SOLD ISNT SOIL LOAN RING SEES CREW RENT ROWS HEIR ALLY THOU NOON LEAN CANS ANAL LAYS AMEN THAI RICA TITS LLTH MONA ANTI THEO DYOU HATT SESS SPAR TOSA ESSO DING DUDE TIVE OURE ICAN SONE NARR NTIS ACTI SCRE FTHE EDIN NORD DONT EWER THET TTHE LYSO PARE URES WASL ANSE HETH RESS ALLO IVEL THEI ORDO SHOU HOUT CANA OTHE ESSA AREN YOUD TOTH MENT FORS ICAL SANO ISEE YYOU ANDO AISE TISO LEIS ONAL HEID

Fuzzy words: http://zodiackillerciphers.com/fuzzy-wo … z340-1.txt

orderlitpledonativefulcreacherthingatmakeeninitsstuffyoursetheringfr
iedhistoasagamesiddefineonceandthepdffordispointerallingitcantionofi
tishorstagiwatchesselfoundtohisopiniongatamountsfortheirtheareaofmyr
ightherestarterscreenersfathersallyaccounterperreadyinthisthethehell
getaccessesinottobeeasyourithisfeelobecausebutthecouldswhereisarltog

STARTERS DONATIVE ACCESSES

BECAUSE ACCOUNT OPINION AMOUNTS COUNTER FATHERS STARTER POINTER WATCHES RESTART REACHER

FATHER AMOUNT ACCESS SCREEN DEFINE NATIVE STUFFY MOUNTS PINION ANDTHE CESSES HERING POINTE THERES OPINIO FORTHE DONATI

THEIR THERE COULD WHERE POINT THING RIGHT FOUND ORDER READY START CAUSE STUFF GAMES REACH YOURS WATCH COUNT SALLY FORTH MOUNT CHESS FRIED INTER ETHER SCREE HESSE ESSES ESSEL ALLIN HORST HEARE CESSE BECAU UNTER SETHE DONAT ATIVE ERING ESTAR TARTE HERES CHERT ATHER HISTO ARTER

THIS YOUR HERE MAKE EACH AREA ONCE GAME REST FEEL FINE EASY HEAR READ THIN HELL STAR KEEN RING SELF HERS OURS FORD HEIR ALLY COUN FORT OTTO HIST SAGA BUTT ACHE SALL SINO SETH ESTA NEON STAG ANTI HESS TART LOBE LING AMES ORTH OULD INTE CHER TIVE TERS EISA ERIN SCRE DONA DISP ARTE NOTT OPIN CANT ATHE INIT NITS HING MOUN NERS THET TERA UNTS TTHE ISTO TOBE CREA HETH THER NATI GATA PLED ITIS THEI THEA CESS ERAL HORS SHOR BECA ALLI TUFF CAUS ESSE FOUN CREE DEFI ISTH TION EDHI ERES ORDI STOA TISH WHER PINI RIED REIS DYIN EARE EADY CHES FFOR ORDE IGHT INGA FATH ATMA GETA

Fuzzy words: http://zodiackillerciphers.com/fuzzy-wo … okie-2.txt

portiseandthetheirjustcloseandmywhosaiillthethecopsupplesomakeyourfe
edingowithandandsmoreascomindatestchartofelichangettheswwcoveralized
idijustreamissingofslaveswouldalsolarshootsaboutimmedisrstmhtningava
liduscarthatitforsharewhenunianoffsuchmandnotalthoutinkybutevenwithe
ritbehindbasedthemwhenbeinguptsthatadiedloveanymonitisproductmostofy

PRODUCT MISSING FEEDING SUCHMAN

BEHIND CHANGE STREAM SLAVES SHOOTS SUPPLE WITHER PRODUC ANDTHE SCARTH WOULDA

THEIR WOULD ABOUT BEING BASED CLOSE SHARE COVER VALID DATES CHART SOLAR SHOOT SLAVE AMISS SUPPL CHANG COMIN HOOTS DBASE HANDA MOREA ARTHA DINGO ASCOM WITHE LAVES MISSI ALTHO

WITH THAT THEM WHEN YOUR MORE JUST ALSO THAN SUCH EVEN MAKE MOST OVER HAND MIND LOVE DATE DIED TEST MISS BASE LOSE PORT FEED HANG SING HEIR SEAN CART THOU HART HARE BOUT SCAR COPS VERA HIND LLTH GETT DUCT COVE CHAN AMIS OULD INGO MEDI IMME DING ANGE NOTA MAND SLAV IZED DIDI INKY HOOT BEIN CHAR BUTE LARS NING LAVE PROD EDIN ITHE SHOO VALI OFFS EDIS THET SABO TIMM ADIE TTHE ARTH TREA HETH THER CLOS AVES ANDA ITIS THEI ERAL ABOU SOMA HOUT ERIT HATA ANDS SOLA TINK FORS USCA WOUL TMOS THES NIAN NITI ISSI REAM SUPP URFE USTR UNIA IDUS USTC MONI WHOS OREA INGA SHAR LICH ATES

Fuzzy words: http://zodiackillerciphers.com/fuzzy-wo … z340-2.txt

http://zodiackillerciphers.com

 
Posted : April 24, 2016 2:37 pm
smokie treats
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Posts: 1626
Noble Member
 

Hey guys, thanks for trying to solve smokie33. I think that it is very hard. There are 8 poly symbols total cover of 81. I was surprised at how easily you solved smokie32, and it seems that we might have found a threshold for solve ability. I checked the most recent solutions, and do not see any correct words. There are only 37 letters that are correct in Jarlve’s recent iteration. I wonder if you are expanding the correct symbols.

Iteration 2 was a little bit better, and I will tell you that the word "happets" had four correct letters. Keep trying, but when you are ready we can compare notes. If you want, I can tell you what symbols are poly. Then see if you can solve it. Or I will show the entire plaintext and key. Or I can give whatever hints that you want. I was able to segregate one poly symbol pretty well.

 
Posted : April 25, 2016 3:24 am
Jarlve
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Posts: 2547
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Topic starter
 

Smokie I’m certainly not done with your cipher yet, but please continue the accuracy reports if it’s not a trouble. Thanks for the word lists doranchak.

Fourth iteration. Both ciphers appear not to solve but I want to continue the process a few more iterations.

340:

AZdecrypt 0.993 (Reddit corpus 6-grams)

Manipulation operation(s): LengthSymbol(2,2,2,1,[<,Y])

Score: 19219.82 Ioc: 0.06845393 Entropy: 4.004232 Chi-square: 44.06665 Characters: 340 Letters: 22

auimergetitsayhes
leantisonebutwith
nordownthethairas
seemorewereactive
lyouforsthatwayis
eeisarrowsoiament
ihadtohendtheusat
thestricallyalway
sforditieandonlyy
ournecksthemeanoo
neishoutnonedyour
eadristwhyyoucana
llysoillthandthei
rhalftheydudeyoud
ontswhyyoumenthou
tduringthebutothe
idywaslongarentha
ttheonedtosaysthe
taiseimonlyinwood
monaleisntmentphp

Multiplicity: 0.3617647 Characters: 340 Symbols: 123 Bigrams: 16/1998 Sequential: 5806/4569

HER>plVPk|1LTG2d
Np!B(#}%DW™.”*sf)
ByŽcM"UZGW()L#†HJ
Spp7l8*V3p~$'Ru2
_9M,‡tjd|5FP0&4k/
p8R‘Fl-*dCkF>2D(
#5=vq%;2UcXGV.ˆL|
(G2Jfj#€?_Nš‰I@L9
d•MQb[ZR2FBcyA64w
-ŠlUV’J]p7–FBy-
U`R/5tE|D›BpbTMx‚
2—clRJ|*5T4M.a&BF
‹69Sy#eN|5FBc(;8R
lGFN“f524b.cV4tgh
yBX1*:49CE>VUZ5-i
|c.3ŒB{(ƒp^.fMqG2
RcTmL16C˜nFlWB|)L
or)WCWcP„SHT/()p
|FkdW<7tB_Y…B*-Cc
>MDHNpkSzZO8A|K;+


smokie33:

AZdecrypt 0.993 (Reddit corpus 6-grams)

Manipulation operation(s): LengthSymbol(2,2,2,1,[50,52])

Score: 19374.05 Ioc: 0.06764706 Entropy: 4.067173 Chi-square: 17.32703 Characters: 340 Letters: 23

orderlimpledonati
vefulcreachwithin
gatmakeeninitsstu
ffyoursetheringqu
iethistoasagamesi
ddefineonceandthe
pdffordispointera
llingitcantionofi
tishowstagiwatche
sselfoundtohisopi
niongatamountsfor
theintheareaofmyr
ightherestartersc
reenersfathersall
yaccounterperread
yinthisthethehell
getaccessesinonto
beeasyouwithisfee
lobecausebuttheco
uldswhereisalltow

Multiplicity: 0.4029412 Characters: 340 Symbols: 137 Bigrams: 9/1257 Sequential: 5013/5781

21 46 125 35 10 33 2 130 11 63 30 26 6 27 39 57 51
90 40 34 101 33 4 10 16 106 4 7 121 132 19 47 61 22
48 42 58 107 13 5 17 18 20 59 28 55 24 8 49 57 53
25 64 65 66 102 10 43 16 44 45 17 46 55 67 108 109 133
55 18 91 47 62 56 92 6 38 9 39 48 38 110 40 49 55
26 31 30 126 51 27 35 6 122 68 35 42 28 31 19 69 30
11 26 34 34 70 12 26 2 56 71 6 62 60 24 16 36 13
3 33 93 20 48 61 58 37 111 27 32 51 6 28 21 25 55
32 62 8 47 6 134 43 57 72 48 61 73 38 44 4 45 16
49 56 40 33 74 6 53 94 26 32 6 112 2 8 123 113 59
27 55 95 22 48 42 57 114 75 21 76 103 19 9 77 127 46
131 78 30 61 135 24 47 17 13 12 18 13 6 25 79 80 10
2 48 7 96 104 16 136 17 8 24 39 97 44 18 10 49 81
12 40 35 27 40 36 9 25 42 44 45 17 10 56 42 33 3
115 39 4 37 82 53 98 83 16 10 11 17 10 46 18 13 31
84 2 20 32 105 55 116 58 7 16 57 117 17 47 16 85 99
48 18 50 38 124 100 16 43 43 18 49 51 60 6 118 24 21
86 17 18 38 56 128 6 87 137 2 57 7 88 56 25 17 35
3 6 119 16 89 38 129 56 17 29 120 32 1 45 18 37 41
53 33 26 56 23 47 14 10 54 2 9 39 52 3 57 6 15

AZdecrypt

 
Posted : April 25, 2016 5:46 pm
smokie treats
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Posts: 1626
Noble Member
 

O.k., don’t feel rushed to stop. We have plenty of time. The 340 is very difficult, and nobody is going to load the message into a solver and magically get a solution. Tonight when I am home I will give a progress report.

EDIT: Here is the progress report for the 4th iteration of smokie33. It is intriguing. Although I do not see any word matches, you have locked in on some of the correct symbols for plaintext "E", and a few for "R" and "O".

.

 
Posted : April 25, 2016 9:30 pm
Jarlve
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Posts: 2547
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Topic starter
 

Okay thanks smokie.

Fifth iteration. Will end the test tomorrow, not sure how I should reboot it though. More depth (expand 3 symbols each time) or 7-grams and more iterations. Maybe both.

340:

AZdecrypt 0.993 (Reddit corpus 6-grams)

Manipulation operation(s): LengthSymbol(2,2,2,1,[#,D])

Score: 19339.58 Ioc: 0.06563422 Entropy: 4.065942 Chi-square: 43.6043 Characters: 340 Letters: 23

auimergetitsayhes
leantfuckedupwith
nordownthethatwas
seeparewereactive
lyourorsthatwayis
eeinarrowsoiament
shoutchendtheusat
thestricallyalway
sgooditieandonlyy
ournecksomeplanoo
neishoutfinedyour
eadristwhyyoucana
llysoallthandthei
rhalftheydudeyoud
ontswhyyoumenthou
tduringthebutothe
idywaslongarentha
ttheonedtosaysthe
taisexponlyinwood
moraleisntmentwhi

Multiplicity: 0.3823529 Characters: 340 Symbols: 130 Bigrams: 15/1942 Sequential: 5806/5157

HER>plVPk|1LTG2d
Np!B(œ}% W™.”*sf)
ByŽcM"UZGW()L†HJ
Spp7l8*V3p~$'Ru2
_9M,‡tjd|5FP0&4k/
p8R‘Fl-*dCkF>2¡(
ž5=vq%;2UcXGV.ˆL|
(G2JfjŸ€?_Nš‰I@L9
d•MQb[ZR2FBcyA64w
-ŠlUV’J]p7–FBy-
U`R/5tE|¢›BpbTMx‚
2—clRJ|*5T4M.a&BF
‹69Sy#eN|5FBc(;8R
lGFN“f524b.cV4tgh
yBX1*:49CE>VUZ5-i
|c.3ŒB{(ƒp^.fMqG2
RcTmL16C˜nFlWB|)L
or)WCWcP„SHT/()p
|FkdW<7tB_Y…B*-Cc
>MDHNpkSzZO8A|K;+


smokie33:

AZdecrypt 0.993 (Reddit corpus 6-grams)

Manipulation operation(s): LengthSymbol(2,2,2,1,[55,32])

Score: 19459.01 Ioc: 0.06454971 Entropy: 4.116186 Chi-square: 10.10648 Characters: 340 Letters: 22

orderlimpledonati
vefulcreachofthin
gatmakeeninitsstu
ffyoursetheryouha
vethistoasagamesa
ddefineonceandthe
pdffordispointera
llingitconsionoft
hishowstagiwatche
sselwouldyouisthi
nkingatamountsorr
ybeintheareaofmyr
ighthebestartersc
reenersfathersall
yaccounterperread
yingandthethehell
getablessesinonto
beeasyouwithisfee
lobecausedbytheco
uldswhereisalltow

Multiplicity: 0.4323529 Characters: 340 Symbols: 147 Bigrams: 9/1214 Sequential: 5368/6899

21 46 125 35 10 33 2 130 11 63 30 26 6 27 39 57 51
90 40 34 101 33 4 10 16 106 4 7 121 132 19 47 61 22
48 42 58 107 13 5 17 18 20 59 28 138 24 8 49 57 53
25 64 65 66 102 10 43 16 44 45 17 46 139 67 108 109 133
140 18 91 47 62 56 92 6 38 9 39 48 38 110 40 49 141
26 31 30 126 51 27 35 6 122 68 35 42 28 31 19 69 30
11 26 34 34 70 12 26 2 56 71 6 62 60 24 16 36 13
3 33 93 20 48 61 58 37 111 27 144 51 6 28 21 25 142
145 62 8 47 6 134 43 57 72 48 61 73 38 44 4 45 16
49 56 40 33 74 6 53 94 26 146 6 112 2 8 123 113 59
27 143 95 22 48 42 57 114 75 21 76 103 19 9 77 127 46
131 78 30 61 135 24 47 17 13 12 18 13 6 25 79 80 10
2 48 7 96 104 16 136 17 8 24 39 97 44 18 10 49 81
12 40 35 27 40 36 9 25 42 44 45 17 10 56 42 33 3
115 39 4 37 82 53 98 83 16 10 11 17 10 46 18 13 31
84 2 20 147 105 55 116 58 7 16 57 117 17 47 16 85 99
48 18 50 38 124 100 16 43 43 18 49 51 60 6 118 24 21
86 17 18 38 56 128 6 87 137 2 57 7 88 56 25 17 35
3 6 119 16 89 38 129 56 17 29 120 32 1 45 18 37 41
53 33 26 56 23 47 14 10 54 2 9 39 52 3 57 6 15

AZdecrypt

 
Posted : April 26, 2016 4:45 pm
Jarlve
(@jarlve)
Posts: 2547
Famed Member
Topic starter
 

Sixth and final iteration.

340:

AZdecrypt 0.993 (Reddit corpus 6-grams)

Manipulation operation(s): LengthSymbol(2,2,2,1,[|,k])

Score: 19431.15 Ioc: 0.06301405 Entropy: 4.085447 Chi-square: 46.94186 Characters: 340 Letters: 22

auimergettosayhes
leantfuckedupwith
nicdownthethatcan
seemorewereactive
lyouforsthatwayis
eeinarrowsofament
shoutchendtheusas
thentricallyalway
sgooditieandillyy
ournedinthempanio
nsishouldonedyour
eadringwhyyoucana
llysimplyhandthei
rhalftheydudeyour
intswhyyoumenthos
eduringthebutothe
idywaslongarentha
ttheonedtosaysthe
causeimonlyinwood
moralessitselfwhy

Multiplicity: 0.4205882 Characters: 340 Symbols: 143 Bigrams: 14/1879 Sequential: 5833/6439

HER>plVP¬£1LTG2d
Np!B(œ}% W™.”*sf)
ByŽcM"UZGW()L†HJ
Spp7l8*V3p~$'Ru2
_9M,‡tjd¤5FP0&4­/
p8R‘Fl-*dC®F>2¡(
ž5=vq%;2UcXGV.ˆL¥
(G2JfjŸ€?_Nš‰I@L9
d•MQb[ZR2FBcyA64w
-ŠlUV’J]p7–FBy-
U`R/5tE¦¢›BpbTMx‚
2—clRJ§*5T4M.a&BF
‹69Sy#eN¨5FBc(;8R
lGFN“f524b.cV4tgh
yBX1*:49CE>VUZ5-i
©c.3ŒB{(ƒp^.fMqG2
RcTmL16C˜nFlWBª)L
or)WCWcP„SHT/()p
«F¯dW<7tB_Y…B*-Cc
>MDHNpkSzZO8A|K;+


smokie33:

AZdecrypt 0.993 (Reddit corpus 6-grams)

Manipulation operation(s): LengthSymbol(2,2,2,1,[34,11])

Score: 19474.57 Ioc: 0.06246746 Entropy: 4.112287 Chi-square: 25.16265 Characters: 340 Letters: 21

orherlifyoudonati
veallcredchurchin
gatmakeeninitsstu
ffyoursetherandha
vethustoasagamesa
ddurineofmeandcou
ldyourdiscountera
llingitconsionofy
oushowstagiwatche
sselwouldyouisthi
nkingatacomicsfor
youintheareaofmyr
ighthebestartersc
reenersfathersall
yaccounterverread
yingandthethehell
getablessesinonto
beeasyouwithisfee
lobecausedbytheco
uldswhereisalltow

Multiplicity: 0.4441176 Characters: 340 Symbols: 151 Bigrams: 9/1223 Sequential: 5430/7412

21 46 125 35 10 33 2 130 150 63 30 26 6 27 39 57 51
90 40 148 101 33 4 10 16 106 4 7 121 132 19 47 61 22
48 42 58 107 13 5 17 18 20 59 28 138 24 8 49 57 53
25 64 65 66 102 10 43 16 44 45 17 46 139 67 108 109 133
140 18 91 47 62 56 92 6 38 9 39 48 38 110 40 49 141
26 31 30 126 51 27 35 6 122 68 35 42 28 31 19 69 30
151 26 149 34 70 12 26 2 56 71 6 62 60 24 16 36 13
3 33 93 20 48 61 58 37 111 27 144 51 6 28 21 25 142
145 62 8 47 6 134 43 57 72 48 61 73 38 44 4 45 16
49 56 40 33 74 6 53 94 26 146 6 112 2 8 123 113 59
27 143 95 22 48 42 57 114 75 21 76 103 19 9 77 127 46
131 78 30 61 135 24 47 17 13 12 18 13 6 25 79 80 10
2 48 7 96 104 16 136 17 8 24 39 97 44 18 10 49 81
12 40 35 27 40 36 9 25 42 44 45 17 10 56 42 33 3
115 39 4 37 82 53 98 83 16 10 11 17 10 46 18 13 31
84 2 20 147 105 55 116 58 7 16 57 117 17 47 16 85 99
48 18 50 38 124 100 16 43 43 18 49 51 60 6 118 24 21
86 17 18 38 56 128 6 87 137 2 57 7 88 56 25 17 35
3 6 119 16 89 38 129 56 17 29 120 32 1 45 18 37 41
53 33 26 56 23 47 14 10 54 2 9 39 52 3 57 6 15

AZdecrypt

 
Posted : April 27, 2016 4:55 pm
Jarlve
(@jarlve)
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I have started 2 new tests focusing on the smokie33. Wanted to try something different now, it expands 3 to 5 symbols (with the wildcard intelligence) and it also expands 3 to 5 random symbols on top of that. So it can expand 6 to 10 symbols. One with 6-grams and the other with 7-grams with 32 million iterations.

AZdecrypt

 
Posted : April 27, 2016 7:36 pm
smokie treats
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Here are iterations 4-6, highlighted cells are correct. Thanks for your efforts; keep trying.

I have been working on segregation, slowly but surely. Working on identifying certain period x repeat situations and how to score them, in conjunction with cycle scores, to hill climb a close segregation. I am currently working on situations where a new segregated symbol position is a member of multiple period 1-5 repeats, making it more likely to be correct. Will post more later, probably this weekend, on the other thread. Small, paced work chunks.

 
Posted : April 28, 2016 5:27 am
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auimergettosayhes — get to say hes
leantfuckedupwith — fucked up with
nicdownthethatcan — nic down the that can
seemorewereactive — see more were actively
lyouforsthatwayis — you for s that way is
eeinarrowsofament — in arrow so
shoutchendtheusas — shout "che" end the u.s. as
thentricallyalway — theAtrically always
sgooditieandillyy — good it ie and ill
ournedinthempanio — your nedin them
nsishouldonedyour — i should one d your
eadringwhyyoucana — ring why you can all
llysimplyhandthei — simply hand their
rhalftheydudeyour — half they dude your
intswhyyoumenthos — why you ment those
eduringthebutothe — during the but
idywaslongarentha — was long a rent that
ttheonedtosaysthe — the one d to says the
causeimonlyinwood — cause im only in wood
moralessitselfwhy — morE less itself why :?:

its probably the best partial `solve` ive seen in the way of partial sentences..gibberish in parts but also may have some substance.. i have only changed two letters (in caps). the most interesting part is shout "che" end the u.s. as theAtrically always good it … oh and the "fucked up with nic down" bit is ok too.. lots of permutations can be applied but i did use very little poetic licence in that lot..i was trying to find miss alignments..make of it as you w will… cheers

 
Posted : April 28, 2016 2:28 pm
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I have started 2 new tests focusing on the smokie33. Wanted to try something different now, it expands 3 to 5 symbols (with the wildcard intelligence) and it also expands 3 to 5 random symbols on top of that. So it can expand 6 to 10 symbols. One with 6-grams and the other with 7-grams with 32 million iterations.

I dismissed this test pretty quickly since the results seemed meager.

Instead the smokie33 is now running with just one symbol expansion a day, 100 million iterations, 1.3 multipicity (the usual) one session with 6-grams and another one with 7-grams. I thought it would be kinda cool to compare the results between different n-gram sizes.

Here is the first iterations, both the 6 and 7-gram sessions expanded the "14" symbol.

smokie33:

AZdecrypt 0.993 (Reddit corpus 6-grams)

Manipulation operation(s): LengthSymbol(2,1,1,1,[14])

Score: 18277.40 Ioc: 0.07220197 Entropy: 3.939451 Chi-square: 28.39111 Characters: 340 Letters: 20

ddernnessgreatcre
sallnonotofthemey
oustspaidoneisgru
bwillnootmadeitth
eismirsandcontage
etreetratorunteer
selltheerwaitions
insdoesnttheandbe
hismahordoesntomo
grancausehatestto
tesyourtedpledged
surehimashisablin
eofslohasicstingc
hartandbutmanruni
tconfusionsandist
hedhletsfortamous
oisntsoooigetatid
eainreacherforbar
iatowneralthemint
unersmentedchiral

Multiplicity: 0.2617647 Characters: 340 Symbols: 89

21 46 1 35 10 33 2 50 11 63 30 26 6 27 39 57 51
23 40 34 15 33 4 10 16 54 4 7 41 52 19 47 61 22
48 42 58 54 13 5 17 18 20 59 28 55 24 8 49 57 53
25 64 65 66 15 10 43 16 44 45 17 46 55 67 54 54 52
55 18 23 47 62 56 23 6 38 9 39 48 38 54 40 49 55
26 31 30 1 51 27 35 6 41 68 35 42 28 31 19 69 30
11 26 34 34 70 12 26 2 56 71 6 62 60 24 16 36 13
3 33 23 20 48 61 58 37 54 27 32 51 6 28 21 25 55
32 62 8 47 6 52 43 57 72 48 61 73 38 44 4 45 16
49 56 40 33 74 6 53 23 26 32 6 54 2 8 41 54 59
27 55 23 22 48 42 57 54 75 21 76 15 19 9 77 1 46
50 78 30 61 52 24 47 17 13 12 18 13 6 25 79 80 10
2 48 7 23 15 16 52 17 8 24 39 23 44 18 10 49 81
12 40 35 27 40 36 9 25 42 44 45 17 10 56 42 33 3
54 39 4 37 82 53 23 83 16 10 11 17 10 46 18 13 31
84 2 20 32 15 55 54 58 7 16 57 54 17 47 16 85 23
48 18 50 38 41 23 16 43 43 18 49 51 60 6 54 24 21
86 17 18 38 56 1 6 87 52 2 57 7 88 56 25 17 35
3 6 54 16 89 38 1 56 17 29 54 32 1 45 18 37 41
53 33 26 56 23 47 14 10 54 2 9 39 52 3 57 6 15


AZdecrypt 0.993 (Reddit corpus 7-grams)

Manipulation operation(s): LengthSymbol(2,1,1,1,[14])

Score: 16252.69 Ioc: 0.07181156 Entropy: 3.927647 Chi-square: 51.80204 Characters: 340 Letters: 20

tromrfordeniamout
someforalonisthat
wouldbeenarestnut
highercatherealls
eeshitsascowslone
isnotmmaismorstan
dimmariothairsand
bfsnwaudlmstarthe
sithascutwaystoha
ntofcatsisalotila
mestwouldthetcfor
runasshedredahour
ownseasetsosternf
rommonchothertofb
looditsharderreds
ponseelunaulehans
wersisaccentralst
reestoalsoundthem
balalsotellsohedi
tfitsherlocosbuae

Multiplicity: 0.2617647 Characters: 340 Symbols: 89 Bigrams: 16

21 46 1 35 10 33 2 50 11 63 30 26 6 27 39 57 51
23 40 34 15 33 4 10 16 54 4 7 41 52 19 47 61 22
48 42 58 54 13 5 17 18 20 59 28 55 24 8 49 57 53
25 64 65 66 15 10 43 16 44 45 17 46 55 67 54 54 52
55 18 23 47 62 56 23 6 38 9 39 48 38 54 40 49 55
26 31 30 1 51 27 35 6 41 68 35 42 28 31 19 69 30
11 26 34 34 70 12 26 2 56 71 6 62 60 24 16 36 13
3 33 23 20 48 61 58 37 54 27 32 51 6 28 21 25 55
32 62 8 47 6 52 43 57 72 48 61 73 38 44 4 45 16
49 56 40 33 74 6 53 23 26 32 6 54 2 8 41 54 59
27 55 23 22 48 42 57 54 75 21 76 15 19 9 77 1 46
50 78 30 61 52 24 47 17 13 12 18 13 6 25 79 80 10
2 48 7 23 15 16 52 17 8 24 39 23 44 18 10 49 81
12 40 35 27 40 36 9 25 42 44 45 17 10 56 42 33 3
54 39 4 37 82 53 23 83 16 10 11 17 10 46 18 13 31
84 2 20 32 15 55 54 58 7 16 57 54 17 47 16 85 23
48 18 50 38 41 23 16 43 43 18 49 51 60 6 54 24 21
86 17 18 38 56 1 6 87 52 2 57 7 88 56 25 17 35
3 6 54 16 89 38 1 56 17 29 54 32 1 45 18 37 41
53 33 26 56 23 47 14 10 54 2 9 39 52 3 57 6 15

AZdecrypt

 
Posted : April 30, 2016 4:52 pm
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Good luck, Jarlve! I took a shot at smokie33 but it continues to kick my butt.

http://zodiackillerciphers.com

 
Posted : May 1, 2016 2:37 pm
Jarlve
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Good luck, Jarlve! I took a shot at smokie33 but it continues to kick my butt.

Yeah, I think it’s a good thing though, that this cipher came along. :)

Second iteration. Both sessions expanded symbol "54" but show a different plaintext.

smokie33:

AZdecrypt 0.993 (Reddit corpus 6-grams)

Manipulation operation(s): LengthSymbol(2,1,1,1,[54])

Score: 18559.20 Ioc: 0.06673607 Entropy: 4.071301 Chi-square: 30.62075 Characters: 340 Letters: 23

dsernresttheactmy
solareniceatliket
heyoffootantingmu
scleanlispostwill
toskidsainthisogt
etheycraterentigh
tellyfeedsaidiinf
erstheyrechyandst
hinkallmyherisepi
gdorcausehaventra
ctsthemandpainles
sthelikoffofaston
ehasailonitssongs
forconnsespondere
sterjustintonsoft
hethatmyaimtokids
hositsillogydavid
booideablemandsor
ealifiedoftheport
uredskingentlemaa

Multiplicity: 0.3058824 Characters: 340 Symbols: 104

21 46 1 35 10 33 2 50 11 63 30 26 6 27 39 57 51
23 40 34 15 33 4 10 16 90 4 7 41 52 19 47 61 22
48 42 58 91 13 5 17 18 20 59 28 55 24 8 49 57 53
25 64 65 66 15 10 43 16 44 45 17 46 55 67 92 93 52
55 18 23 47 62 56 23 6 38 9 39 48 38 94 40 49 55
26 31 30 1 51 27 35 6 41 68 35 42 28 31 19 69 30
11 26 34 34 70 12 26 2 56 71 6 62 60 24 16 36 13
3 33 23 20 48 61 58 37 95 27 32 51 6 28 21 25 55
32 62 8 47 6 52 43 57 72 48 61 73 38 44 4 45 16
49 56 40 33 74 6 53 23 26 32 6 96 2 8 41 97 59
27 55 23 22 48 42 57 98 75 21 76 15 19 9 77 1 46
50 78 30 61 52 24 47 17 13 12 18 13 6 25 79 80 10
2 48 7 23 15 16 52 17 8 24 39 23 44 18 10 49 81
12 40 35 27 40 36 9 25 42 44 45 17 10 56 42 33 3
99 39 4 37 82 53 23 83 16 10 11 17 10 46 18 13 31
84 2 20 32 15 55 100 58 7 16 57 101 17 47 16 85 23
48 18 50 38 41 23 16 43 43 18 49 51 60 6 102 24 21
86 17 18 38 56 1 6 87 52 2 57 7 88 56 25 17 35
3 6 103 16 89 38 1 56 17 29 104 32 1 45 18 37 41
53 33 26 56 23 47 14 10 54 2 9 39 52 3 57 6 15


smokie33:

AZdecrypt 0.993 (Reddit corpus 7-grams)

Manipulation operation(s): LengthSymbol(2,1,1,1,[54])

Score: 16923.32 Ioc: 0.07373764 Entropy: 3.912794 Chi-square: 36.59037 Characters: 340 Letters: 21

editrntpdunionins
talongrangerswhic
himscreesomehasnu
mberorcalledevers
eethistoahihadase
ienisntorytimewan
dillshitstoithatc
antshimsandsomeme
diahoscnchicalgla
ssandoutidontario
netchingmetowhyid
punishhechecomfor
thetoaseahitlerst
hatnathmillersina
bigsoutharderdece
ntsdoesmeanwehadt
hepartaccesstothe
reeasionstnessmet
aofaraiseandilesr
unistherethisanoo

Multiplicity: 0.3058824 Characters: 340 Symbols: 104 Bigrams: 12

21 46 1 35 10 33 2 50 11 63 30 26 6 27 39 57 51
23 40 34 15 33 4 10 16 90 4 7 41 52 19 47 61 22
48 42 58 91 13 5 17 18 20 59 28 55 24 8 49 57 53
25 64 65 66 15 10 43 16 44 45 17 46 55 67 92 93 52
55 18 23 47 62 56 23 6 38 9 39 48 38 94 40 49 55
26 31 30 1 51 27 35 6 41 68 35 42 28 31 19 69 30
11 26 34 34 70 12 26 2 56 71 6 62 60 24 16 36 13
3 33 23 20 48 61 58 37 95 27 32 51 6 28 21 25 55
32 62 8 47 6 52 43 57 72 48 61 73 38 44 4 45 16
49 56 40 33 74 6 53 23 26 32 6 96 2 8 41 97 59
27 55 23 22 48 42 57 98 75 21 76 15 19 9 77 1 46
50 78 30 61 52 24 47 17 13 12 18 13 6 25 79 80 10
2 48 7 23 15 16 52 17 8 24 39 23 44 18 10 49 81
12 40 35 27 40 36 9 25 42 44 45 17 10 56 42 33 3
99 39 4 37 82 53 23 83 16 10 11 17 10 46 18 13 31
84 2 20 32 15 55 100 58 7 16 57 101 17 47 16 85 23
48 18 50 38 41 23 16 43 43 18 49 51 60 6 102 24 21
86 17 18 38 56 1 6 87 52 2 57 7 88 56 25 17 35
3 6 103 16 89 38 1 56 17 29 104 32 1 45 18 37 41
53 33 26 56 23 47 14 10 54 2 9 39 52 3 57 6 15

AZdecrypt

 
Posted : May 1, 2016 6:23 pm
smokie treats
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Keep trying. So far you are correctly identifying poly symbols. No contextual words, though.

 
Posted : May 1, 2016 7:35 pm
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