interesting i just knitted the 340 on top of the 408.. the 408 still gets up a good solve.
not sure if all the characters used in both the 340 and 408 are the right ones..so its just add hock

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LANDHEIEAEAHTLRTF
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YIHERROOATSIEATSK
EAGNSENTIONSSRONA
LTESMLVOIDOABERTA
AAOFDOLNEYEURESTI
ON HERE EGOSLDAWETS
TREIBENFENEANSLAT
IEGKTREANULEROHSN
ONDEGFAITOTHEEALS
REIAALEEATSLDAVAG
EASENDTOTREDBTREE
ALOTINTINERBIETTE
ADEARLSANENEDHMAO
GDOETTENNESEELAHT
EEHENREDINATOKAHE
ASSOENARLYUNLITND
RHNTEESARENAWASVE
ILIKEKILLSNGPEOPL
EBECAUSEITISSOMUC
HFUNITSAMOREFUNTH
AAKILLINGWILDGEME
SNTHEFORRESTBECAU
SEMANISTHEMOATRAA
GERTUEENAMALOFALL
TOKILLSOMETHINGGS
DESMETHEMOATTHRIL
LINGEOPEREACEITSS
EDENBETTERTHENGET
TINGYOURROCKSOFFW
ITHAGIRLTHEBESTPA
RTOFSTIATHEEWHEAI
RIESWILLBEREBORNI
NPAREDICEANRALLTH
ESHADEKILLEDWILLB
ECOMEMYSLADESIWIL
LNOTGIDEYOUMYNAME
BECAUSEYOUWILLTRY
TOSLOIROWNORATOPM
YCOLLECTINGOFSLAD
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With spaces:

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It still kind of baffles me that combining 340 and 408 gives 44 rows, and 2 pages of half-inch ruled graph paper also have 44 rows.
Is it just a coincidence?
Was the 2nd page the only piece of graph paper he had left, and he was too busy/lazy to buy new ones, so he just constructed his new cipher in that leftover space?
Or is it just a red herring, and there’s no reason to believe he used half-inch ruled graph paper to line up his cipher text?
I have a hard time believing he didn’t use some kind of grid to line things up. Here is a picture of how well his written cipher text fits into a very precisely drawn grid:

Here are all the ones that fall in that range:

Thanks, that’s probably a test I would like to do at some point.

interesting i just knitted the 340 on top of the 408.. the 408 still gets up a good solve.
not sure if all the characters used in both the 340 and 408 are the right ones..so its just add hock

Nice idea Mr lowe!

@doranchak, do you know if the symbols between your Z340 and Z408 Webtoy transcriptions line up?

It still kind of baffles me that combining 340 and 408 gives 44 rows, and 2 pages of half-inch ruled graph paper also have 44 rows.
Is it just a coincidence?
Was the 2nd page the only piece of graph paper he had left, and he was too busy/lazy to buy new ones, so he just constructed his new cipher in that leftover space?
Or is it just a red herring, and there’s no reason to believe he used half-inch ruled graph paper to line up his cipher text?
I have a hard time believing he didn’t use some kind of grid to line things up. Here is a picture of how well his written cipher text fits into a very precisely drawn grid:

I don’t see much in the 44 rows, but who knows?

Yeah he probably used some kind of grid. It also just shows how meticulous he was in his presentation. He created the perfect set up.

@doranchak, do you know if the symbols between your Z340 and Z408 Webtoy transcriptions line up?

Are you asking if a symbol from Z340, and the similar looking symbol from Z408, have the same value in the ASCII transcription?
If so, then I believe the answer is yes for all symbols. However, that may not be true for Z13 and Z32.

The vertical bar in Z340 could be interpreted as the letter "I" but I treat it as a separate symbol (pipe char in ASCII) because it looks different than the letter I in Z408.

The cipher transcriptions should all be consistent with each other at http://zodiackillerciphers.com/cipher-explorer
There you can click "Edit -> Copy cipher text" to get the transcriptions of each cipher. And select the ciphers via the Ciphers menu.

It still kind of baffles me that combining 340 and 408 gives 44 rows, and 2 pages of half-inch ruled graph paper also have 44 rows.
Is it just a coincidence?
Was the 2nd page the only piece of graph paper he had left, and he was too busy/lazy to buy new ones, so he just constructed his new cipher in that leftover space?
Or is it just a red herring, and there’s no reason to believe he used half-inch ruled graph paper to line up his cipher text?
I have a hard time believing he didn’t use some kind of grid to line things up. Here is a picture of how well his written cipher text fits into a very precisely drawn grid:

i would guess he used a light box with a ruled graph paper grid underneath.

I just experimented with a feature for AZDecrypt that I have been wishing for a long time: A button that opens an Explorer window of the output directory when clicked. This way I can save myself the manual navigation. Jarlve, if you would like to include this in your release, here is the source.

case button_open_output_path
	if msg.message=wm_lbuttondown then
		'open explorer window
		dim As String outputDirPath
		outputDirPath = curdir + "\Output"
		ShellExecute(NULL, "explore", outputDirPath, NULL, NULL, SW_SHOWNORMAL)
	end if

I just experimented with a feature for AZDecrypt that I have been wishing for a long time: A button that opens an Explorer window of the output directory when clicked. This way I can save myself the manual navigation. Jarlve, if you would like to include this in your release, here is the source.

case button_open_output_path
	if msg.message=wm_lbuttondown then
		'open explorer window
		dim As String outputDirPath
		outputDirPath = curdir + "\Output"
		ShellExecute(NULL, "explore", outputDirPath, NULL, NULL, SW_SHOWNORMAL)
	end if

Good idea, thank you, will add. Problem occured:

AZdecrypt.bas(4099) error 42: Variable not declared, ShellExecute in 'ShellExecute(NULL, "explore", outputDirPath, NULL, NULL, SW_SHOWNORMAL)'

Sorry, I forgot the following:

#include "win/shlobj.bi"

Thanks Largo. It works but then all of a sudden it stops working at times. Any ideas?

Oh, once again my fault. I pasted the first version of my code. Problem is, that „curdir“ points to the path last used. If you open a cipher in a different directory, curpath will point to that directory. So instead „exepath“ must be used. Should work then.

AZdecrypt 1.18:

Download: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1v0nyaz … sp=sharing (200 MB)

What’s new?

I made a huge effort to simplify the program in many ways and the overlapping n-gram systems have been removed. And thus, old n-grams may no longer work and 7-grams have been removed in favor of 8-grams. N-gram sizes 2 to 6 use the default system and n-gram size 8 uses beijinghouse’s system.

– New beijinghouse and reddit n-grams.
– Binary n-gram file format which results in much smaller files and faster loading times.
– 8-grams will dynamically load into memory to the constraints of the system and will work even with as little as 1 GB of free RAM. Under "Options, Solvers" a setting can be found to force the 8-grams to a certain memory size.
– 8-gram caching, a setting under "Options, Solvers" will increase speed by up to 30% at the cost of more RAM and some warm-up time.
– In general almost all solvers have a 2x to 8x efficiency increase resulting in much faster solve times for all ciphers.
– The "simple transposition" solver has support for batch solving. (suggested by doranchak)
– Higher-order homophonic solver.
– Monoalphabetic groups solver (for Nick Pelling’s challenge ciphers, idea and concept by beijnghouse: https://ciphermysteries.com/2020/01/07/ … louie-helm)
– Batch ciphers bigram repeats filter under "Options, Solvers"
– Load n-gram bias now supports files up to 10 MB.
– Performance mode removed.
– Bug fixes.

Download 6-grams_english_beijinghouse_v6: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1aXzSQo … sp=sharing (200 MB)
Download 8-grams_english_beijinghouse_v6: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1v9xvmK … sp=sharing (5 GB)
Download 8-grams_english_jarlve_reddit: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1V1N0dp … sp=sharing (1.2 GB)

Keep up the outstanding work Jarlve! Every release pushes the state of the art another step forward. Thank you for your hard work.

Keep up the outstanding work Jarlve! Every release pushes the state of the art another step forward. Thank you for your hard work.

I concur! Congrats, Jarlve! Amazing work. Thanks so much for your efforts.

loaded and ran the 6 grams ok but wont let me load and run the 8 grams.. i will give it another go on the weekend. cheers