smithy-
Was I the first to solve these? I can’t remember, I only have a vague recollection of seeing this…. I have them solved now, anyways, LOL.
-glurk
(Yes, I was bored and had nothing better to do.)

Glurk – modesty forbids.

Entropy – yes, I seem to recall that’s just what was done – completely pointlessly – in our little grill experiments.
Sometimes I recall all the things I’ve personally tried in attempting to decode the thing and I’m embarrassed.

Ok…it’s corny, but I’m sharing anyway.

A few years back I came upon this cereal box. At first glance it reminded me of the 340. I also thought the way in which they decode the secret message was interesting.

Note it tells you to use (-) when necessary. The 340 has that. Is that common to use? Code people?

I know it’s silly, but maybe it truly was something easier and child-like? I actually own the green and red decoders. Yep. It actually took me like two years to get my hands on the red one. Why do I do these things? lol

Okay, I admit it….. I’m a tad bit jealous.

Entropy – yes, I seem to recall that’s just what was done – completely pointlessly – in our little grill experiments.
Sometimes I recall all the things I’ve personally tried in attempting to decode the thing and I’m embarrassed.

It’s only silly if it’s wrong, smithy, and you don’t know until you try.

I shared at Tom’s a looong time ago, but didn’t have the decoders yet. It is what made me search for them.
http://zodiackiller.fr.yuku.com/topic/1663#.UvfyFEnTkeg

entropy, nope. I have not tried it yet. I’d have to shrink it down to a MUCH smaller version. Ultimately though, you still have to know what those darn symbols meant.

I would like to know from you pros if using a (-) is a common thing to do. The back of this card does mention using it.

You wouldn’t need to know anything about the symbols if the card blocked out all of the non-letter symbols, Tahoe. What I’m imagining is the holes in the cards isolating only letter symbols and forming some type of message. Z would have had to design the 340 cipher based on the layout of his Sugar Crisp Magic Decoder.

It’s a total longshot but just seems like it’s worth a try. It’s just one example of an encoding method which is pretty simple to create but which Z would hold the key for (literally in this case).

I see what you mean. I will give it a shot later. I do agree it could be something simple, but without a key it could seem impossible.

It’s only silly if it’s wrong, smithy, and you don’t know until you try.

I shared at Tom’s a looong time ago, but didn’t have the decoders yet. It is what made me search for them.
http://zodiackiller.fr.yuku.com/topic/1663#.UvfyFEnTkeg

Ah yes, two of those posts are mine. The "East" one (yadda yadda) and one of the others.
I like the "total tool" edit – very apropos. Thanks Tom, always classy.

T., re: "I would like to know from you pros if using a (-) is a common thing to do. The back of this card does mention using it."
I’m not a pro!
Is using a hyphen in substitution common? Well, I suppose anything in "usual punctuation" could be commonly used. This stuff ?;:-()!
Do I think the hyphen’s more commonly used? Nope. Do I have stats? Nope.

BTW – isn’t it funny how the different colours and the inclusions of the lines make it look as if there are two seperate and different grills in the Dick Tracy stuff, when actually there’s only one. Quite clever that. (I bet it saved them some costs too, setting up the print and punch.)

I won’t say anything about that editing of posts and User Names to make people look foolish but that might have something to do with why so many of the good posts there are now attributed to "Forumer Deleted User". Just sayin’…

IF this were Z’s method, it’s honestly hard to imagine him not enlightening someone about it eventually since the method itself would serve as effective taunting. See how stupid the blue pigs are! They can’t even figure this cipher a child could make with his little cereal box decoder card.

Here’s Tahoe finally solving the 340 cipher:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl … dA__2tKoIU

Has anyone tried overlaying the hole-punched postcard over one of the Z codes? Just a crazy thought.

….it’s only silly if it’s wrong, DaB.

For those still looking for the red decoder ring, I’m genuinely sorry for pointing out that the red and green code cards have the same combination of holes, despite their different colours and designs. I’m probably wrong.
Ahem.

Entropy – that’s a Game of Thrones link, isn’t it? 14 minutes long? So which one’s Tahoe, the one with the Dragons? That’d be nice.
I may need a decoder ring to figure it out.

The green and red decoders are indeed the same. I tried applying them on the z340, in all positions, in all rotated configurations. Here are the 3 "best" results:

It was worth trying out…

_pi

I think this idea still needs to be looked over. Maybe reviewed with the original cipher key.

I’m not sure why it is said the red and the green are the same. ?? I see a clear difference.

I’m not sure why it is said the red and the green are the same. ?? I see a clear difference.

Here is what you get when you place a transparent red decoder on top of the green one:

The holes are in exactly the same places. Only the suggested reading directions printed on the decoders differ.

I see what you mean if you place them together that way. Probably done for mass production. But…If you lay them the way they are meant to be laid…horizontally, they bring up different results. No matter which start point from the two on each card.