This is just a format test, trying to capture the "feel" of a threaded conversion brought over from the old site. I’m hoping to automate this process so I can import stuff in bulk.
-Dave
AK Wilks, Fri Sep 30, 2011 6:34 pm
Those COULD be the right translations Morf. The thing to do is to plug them in and see if it forms a coherent message in the REST of the code.
I will try it this weekend, you yourself can also try it using doranchak’s webtoy.
http://oranchak.com/zodiac/webtoy/
At the site above is a fun and interesting little tool to help solve the Zodiac 340 Code.
You just type in a letter for a symbol, and it puts that translation throughout the code.
morf13, Fri Sep 30, 2011 7:49 pm
Those COULD be the right translations Morf. The thing to do is to plug them in and see if it forms a coherent message in the REST of the code.
I will try it this weekend, you yourself can also try it using doranchak’s webtoy.
http://oranchak.com/zodiac/webtoy/
At the site above is a fun and interesting little tool to help solve the Zodiac 340 Code.
You just type in a letter for a symbol, and it puts that translation throughout the code.
Thanks will try it
morf13, Sat Oct 01, 2011 6:33 am
Possibilities I see…
Column 15,line 11…the M symbol could be the letter A, and to the right of that, the K symbol could be the letter R…meaning a word could be there on that line….cAR,cARe,ARe, fAR,smARt etc….of course I could be wrong, but think I may be on to something.
morf13, Sat Oct 01, 2011 6:54 am
Possibilities I see…
Column 15,line 11…the M symbol could be the letter A, and to the right of that, the K symbol could be the letter R…meaning a word could be there on that line….cAR,cARe,ARe, fAR,smARt etc….of course I could be wrong, but think I may be on to something.
The M symbol likely being the letter A, could also make it possible that the K symbol to the right of it may represent the letter F…and make that line read ‘AF’, possible words AFter,AFternoon, sAFe, etc
I think so far that the H symbol may be the letter I. The E symbol may be the letter F. The M symbol may very likely be the letter A.
morf13, Sat Oct 01, 2011 7:51 pm
Zodiac sent the 340 and gave the cops 6 months to solve it. They failed, so 6 months later he sent the ‘MY NAME IS’ cipher, in which he asks "by the way, have you cracked the last cipher I sent you? My name is_____"
He seems like he is repeating a phrase from the 340 cipher…."MY NAME IS". Does anyone thin it is possible that Z used the same phrase MY NAME IS in the 340? If so, where may it lie within the 340?? The beginning? The end? The middle where those weird lines are at the beginning and end of the line?
AK Wilks, Sat Oct 01, 2011 8:20 pm
Graysmith and me and some others think the 340 fourth line begins "see a name".
doranchak, Tue Oct 04, 2011 9:55 am
Here are the results for all the ways to assign plaintext letters "A","L","N" to cipher text letters "N","A","M", and all the ways to assign plaintext letters "H","F","M","R" to cipher text letters "E","K","crossed circle" (there are 1728 possible combinations):
http://oranchak.com/zodiac/morf-results.html
Maybe something there will stand out for you.
Decoding those symbols reveals only 33 out of 340 (or 9.7%) of the plaintext. Makes it hard to see what words could fit.
By contrast, if you guessed the plaintext assignments for the symbols "+","B","backwards p","|","backwards c", and "F", you’d reveal 77 out of 340 (or 22.6%) of the plaintext. Might be more bang for your buck.
morf13, Tue Oct 04, 2011 11:58 am
Here are the results for all the ways to assign plaintext letters "A","L","N" to cipher text letters "N","A","M", and all the ways to assign plaintext letters "H","F","M","R" to cipher text letters "E","K","crossed circle" (there are 1728 possible combinations):
http://oranchak.com/zodiac/morf-results.html
Maybe something there will stand out for you.
Decoding those symbols reveals only 33 out of 340 (or 9.7%) of the plaintext. Makes it hard to see what words could fit.
By contrast, if you guessed the plaintext assignments for the symbols "+","B","backwards p","|","backwards c", and "F", you’d reveal 77 out of 340 (or 22.6%) of the plaintext. Might be more bang for your buck.
Thanks Doranchak, but I have no idea what I am looking at in the photo link you posted :scratch: I think the "+" symbol could be any one of the following letters that are often seen back to back:
+= the letter E- tEEns, sEEn, bEEN, etc
+=the letter L- kiLL, wiLL, hiLL, etc
+= the letter O, sOOn,nOOn, etc
+= the letter P, haPPy,etc
+= R, huRRy, etc
+= S, miSS, etc
AK Wilks, Tue Oct 04, 2011 1:51 pm
Morf if this helps feel free to use it. What Bullitt/Obiwan/Kite put together as their estimate of what the RAW Graysmith solution could have been, before he mucked it up, the + was an L. And if you remember a little experiment I did a few months ago, given the context you and some others agreed that was likely the right translation. It produces LEO, SHALL, BELLI (anagram), and several other words.
See the problem you are having is what Doranchak suggested, the POI name alone does not give you enough translations in the code to really solve it. You have to solve other symbols in the code. You might want to try plugging in some translations from other proposed solves. I think the 8th line is THESE FOOLSHALL SEE, the 4th line starts as SEE A NAME. But their are numerous proposed solves out there, most equally "valid" which is to say most equally unproven!
morf, Tue Oct 04, 2011 10:48 pm
Morf if this helps feel free to use it. What Bullitt/Obiwan/Kite put together as their estimate of what the RAW Graysmith solution could have been, before he mucked it up, the + was an L. And if you remember a little experiment I did a few months ago, given the context you and some others agreed that was likely the right translation. It produces LEO, SHALL, BELLI (anagram), and several other words.
See the problem you are having is what Doranchak suggested, the POI name alone does not give you enough translations in the code to really solve it. You have to solve other symbols in the code. You might want to try plugging in some translations from other proposed solves. I think the 8th line is THESE FOOLSHALL SEE, the 4th line starts as SEE A NAME. But their are numerous proposed solves out there, most equally "valid" which is to say most equally unproven!
Thanks for the advice. I will try a couple things. There are some great cipher people here, and any help is appreciated.
