The sequence was IAAYYASCNT but only IAAYYA appears in the cipher text. What is the significance of SCNT?
If we compare the first 11 characters of the last cipher part with the circled letters:
IAAYYA SCNT IAAYYAARYNT
By adding that space, we get to have the "NT" letters match as well. This would mean that the differences would only be "SC" vs "ARY".
I also thought, if someone randomly circled 7 symbols from a chunk of text the same size as the chunk of text from I to A in IAAYYAA, how many times would he have to do it to get 7 consecutive symbols in the cryptogram?
Great question. I made a quick experiment for it. The 7 symbols in "IAAYYAA" span 24 words. Total length is 97 letters (after removing anything that isn’t a letter).
For each trial, pick a random starting word in the book.
Add words until the length reaches 97 or greater.
Remove any extra letters at the end to force the max length to be 97.
Pick a random sequence of 7 words.
Then in each selected word, pick a random letter from within it.
The selected letters form a 7 letter sequence. Count it as a "hit" if the cipher text has the same sequence somewhere.
Example hit:
Randomly selected chunk of text: [AT, THAT, TIME, BUT, SLOWLY, MY, THOUGHTS, TOOK, SHAPE, AND, I, UNDERSTOOD, THE, PREVIOUS, SKILL, DREAMS, ID, HAD, OF, BURRICH, IT, EXPLAIN]
Random selection of words: [2, 3, 6, 7, 12, 20, 21] TIME BUT THOUGHTS TOOK THE IT EXPLAIN
Random sequence formed by one letter from each word: MTTOTTN
Repeat for millions of trials.
Results so far:
After 3,700,000,000 trials, there have been 5772 hits. That’s about 640,000 trials per hit. So, if you picked 7 random letters (one letter per word) from a random chunk of text, there’s a 1 in 640,000 chance of accidentally matching a 7-letter sequence in the cipher text.
Here are the top 100 occurring matches:
TOTTNAA=159, OETTDIT=144, TTOTTNA=136, IHDTTOT=99, ISIAAOH=97, TMTTOTT=82, ATMTTOT=76, ANIATAD=75, STOTIHH=67, TOTIHHN=61, TODTNOA=60, ATHTLTI=57, IATOYSI=49, OTTNAAM=48, HATHTLT=48, YANIATA=47, MTTOTTN=47, DOETTDI=47, OHSELTO=46, ETTDITW=44, TSADIHI=42, IHNDONI=42, HASODAT=41, WISIAAO=40, OHMOOOT=39, ATOYSIA=39, OTSADIH=38, AYANIAT=38, TNOAMAH=37, HOTSADI=36, TNWIATO=35, HTYIANA=35, TTMWITA=34, OTAYNTT=32, NHOTSAD=30, ELTODTN=30, AHTYIAN=30, SELTODT=29, WNHOTSA=28, YATMTTO=27, SSIIMAT=27, ODATRIS=27, DTNOAMA=27, OMATLOI=26, ODTNOAM=26, LTODTNO=26, TDSOLIO=25, SFHATHT=25, YAAFITI=24, OTOHYAN=24, NTTMWIT=24, ETOMYHA=24, WISAIHN=23, ICSTOTI=23, ASODATR=23, TTOTYHN=22, TNAAMDO=22, SODATRI=22, OTYOMIH=22, NIATADW=22, DLIAALA=22, TSWISAI=21, RSITLOA=21, OWNHOTS=21, SWISAIH=20, STASIAB=20, HTLTIFT=20, TOHYANS=19, OTYHNDT=19, NAAMDOT=19, MTMOTOH=19, HMOOOTY=19, EODIASM=19, AOWNHOT=19, WIHDTTO=18, SIAAOHB=18, MOTOHYA=18, LOAHWIA=18, IYATMTT=18, HSELTOD=18, AARYNTT=18, WSTASIA=17, SIHNDON=17, OEGSSII=17, NEMTMOI=17, LIYATMT=17, HDTTOTY=17, DTTOTYH=17, TTNAAMD=16, TLTIFTN=16, SADIHIW=16, NOAMAHM=16, NEAWOWI=16, FOHSELT=16, THTLTIF=15, TAYNTTM=15, STFOHSE=15, OTIHHNC=15, TYIANAW=14, TOYSIAW=14
I assume the more frequently occurring ones are due to their letters being more frequently occurring in the cipher text.
IAAYYAA has even occurred 8 times during 3,315,964,438 trials.
[0, 3, 4, 6, 7, 9, 21] IN AND A BOY SCARCELY A MASTER IAAYYAA [IN, HARD, TIMES, AND, A, SCRIBERS, BOY, SCARCELY, GETS, A, BROKEN, NOSE, OR, A, SCARRED, FACE, LIKE, THAT, FROM, A, PATIENT, MASTER, PIPER, OBS] [3, 7, 9, 11, 14, 17, 24] HIM A MAN MANY YOU A A IAAYYAA [KNEW, NOTHING, OF, HIM, AND, I, WAS, A, YOUNG, MAN, WITH, MANY, OTHER, INTERESTS, YOU, CAN, PUT, A, COLT, IN, A, CORRAL, OR, TIE, A, DOG, UP, FOR, A, TIME, N] [3, 4, 6, 10, 11, 13, 24] RISING AND AS MY FURY AN PA IAAYYAA [HIM, MY, CHEST, RISING, AND, FALLING, AS, I, PANTED, OUT, MY, FURY, AS, AN, ANGRY, BOY, ID, OFTEN, PROMISED, MYSELF, THAT, SOMEDAY, HE, WOULD, PA] [1, 2, 8, 17, 20, 21, 24] AGAIN A WAS HUMBLY YOU SAID ARE IAAYYAA [ME, AGAIN, A, JEST, EVEN, A, ROUGH, JEST, WAS, WELCOME, YOU, WERE, SAYING, ABOUT, WARNINGS, I, ASKED, HUMBLY, HE, SIGHED, YOU, SAID, IT, WE, ARE, A] [1, 8, 9, 11, 14, 17, 22] INSTEAD A PLACE MY MY A A IAAYYAA [THAT, INSTEAD, HE, LEANED, OVER, TO, LOOK, AT, A, PLACE, BETWEEN, MY, SHOULDER, AND, MY, NECK, WHERE, A, FORGED, ONE, HAD, BITTEN, A, CHUNK, OUT, O] [1, 3, 7, 8, 13, 15, 19] I A WAS SLIGHTLY BY TARRY SPREAD IAAYYAA [TRAVELERS, I, FOUND, A, SMALL, DEPRESSION, THAT, WAS, SLIGHTLY, SHELTERED, FROM, THE, WIND, BY, SOME, TARRY, SMELLING, BRUSH, I, SPREAD] [0, 8, 15, 17, 19, 23, 25] I AWAY AS LADYS MOLLY SAID WA IAAYYAA [I, TRIED, TO, IMAGINE, THAT, MEETING, BUT, SHUDDERED, AWAY, FROM, IT, SHE, TOOK, ME, ON, AS, A, LADYS, MAID, MOLLY, SAID, SOFTLY, SHE, SAID, IT, WA] [0, 1, 3, 9, 10, 14, 17] I SAID CHADE YOUR DAYS GREAT THAN IAAYYAA [I, SAID, SULKILY, CHADE, SIGHED, AND, THE, END, OF, YOUR, DAYS, WILL, COME, A, GREAT, DEAL, LATER, THAN, THEY, WOULD, HAVE, HAD, HE, ACKNOWLEDG]
Conclusion: The circled sequence IAAYYAA on page 22 is very likely to be connected to the cipher text written elsewhere.
Few corrections:
First 3 characters: YMB = YBM
Line 5: WIWLR = WIWLTThanks – I’ve updated my earlier post.
I would like to update the first post to reflect the agreed upon transcription. What is it exactly? And can we discuss this as two parts or three parts? I prefer two parts myself. Let me know and I will update the first post.
I also thought, if someone randomly circled 7 symbols from a chunk of text the same size as the chunk of text from I to A in IAAYYAA, how many times would he have to do it to get 7 consecutive symbols in the cryptogram?
Great question. I made a quick experiment for it. The 7 symbols in "IAAYYAA" span 24 words. Total length is 97 letters (after removing anything that isn’t a letter).
For each trial, pick a random starting word in the book.
Add words until the length reaches 97 or greater.
Remove any extra letters at the end to force the max length to be 97.
Pick a random sequence of 7 words.
Then in each selected word, pick a random letter from within it.
The selected letters form a 7 letter sequence. Count it as a "hit" if the cipher text has the same sequence somewhere.Example hit:
Randomly selected chunk of text: [AT, THAT, TIME, BUT, SLOWLY, MY, THOUGHTS, TOOK, SHAPE, AND, I, UNDERSTOOD, THE, PREVIOUS, SKILL, DREAMS, ID, HAD, OF, BURRICH, IT, EXPLAIN]
Random selection of words: [2, 3, 6, 7, 12, 20, 21] TIME BUT THOUGHTS TOOK THE IT EXPLAIN
Random sequence formed by one letter from each word: MTTOTTNRepeat for millions of trials.
Results so far:
After 3,700,000,000 trials, there have been 5772 hits. That’s about 640,000 trials per hit. So, if you picked 7 random letters (one letter per word) from a random chunk of text, there’s a 1 in 640,000 chance of accidentally matching a 7-letter sequence in the cipher text.Here are the top 100 occurring matches:
TOTTNAA=159, OETTDIT=144, TTOTTNA=136, IHDTTOT=99, ISIAAOH=97, TMTTOTT=82, ATMTTOT=76, ANIATAD=75, STOTIHH=67, TOTIHHN=61, TODTNOA=60, ATHTLTI=57, IATOYSI=49, OTTNAAM=48, HATHTLT=48, YANIATA=47, MTTOTTN=47, DOETTDI=47, OHSELTO=46, ETTDITW=44, TSADIHI=42, IHNDONI=42, HASODAT=41, WISIAAO=40, OHMOOOT=39, ATOYSIA=39, OTSADIH=38, AYANIAT=38, TNOAMAH=37, HOTSADI=36, TNWIATO=35, HTYIANA=35, TTMWITA=34, OTAYNTT=32, NHOTSAD=30, ELTODTN=30, AHTYIAN=30, SELTODT=29, WNHOTSA=28, YATMTTO=27, SSIIMAT=27, ODATRIS=27, DTNOAMA=27, OMATLOI=26, ODTNOAM=26, LTODTNO=26, TDSOLIO=25, SFHATHT=25, YAAFITI=24, OTOHYAN=24, NTTMWIT=24, ETOMYHA=24, WISAIHN=23, ICSTOTI=23, ASODATR=23, TTOTYHN=22, TNAAMDO=22, SODATRI=22, OTYOMIH=22, NIATADW=22, DLIAALA=22, TSWISAI=21, RSITLOA=21, OWNHOTS=21, SWISAIH=20, STASIAB=20, HTLTIFT=20, TOHYANS=19, OTYHNDT=19, NAAMDOT=19, MTMOTOH=19, HMOOOTY=19, EODIASM=19, AOWNHOT=19, WIHDTTO=18, SIAAOHB=18, MOTOHYA=18, LOAHWIA=18, IYATMTT=18, HSELTOD=18, AARYNTT=18, WSTASIA=17, SIHNDON=17, OEGSSII=17, NEMTMOI=17, LIYATMT=17, HDTTOTY=17, DTTOTYH=17, TTNAAMD=16, TLTIFTN=16, SADIHIW=16, NOAMAHM=16, NEAWOWI=16, FOHSELT=16, THTLTIF=15, TAYNTTM=15, STFOHSE=15, OTIHHNC=15, TYIANAW=14, TOYSIAW=14
I assume the more frequently occurring ones are due to their letters being more frequently occurring in the cipher text.
IAAYYAA has even occurred 8 times during 3,315,964,438 trials.
[0, 3, 4, 6, 7, 9, 21] IN AND A BOY SCARCELY A MASTER IAAYYAA [IN, HARD, TIMES, AND, A, SCRIBERS, BOY, SCARCELY, GETS, A, BROKEN, NOSE, OR, A, SCARRED, FACE, LIKE, THAT, FROM, A, PATIENT, MASTER, PIPER, OBS] [3, 7, 9, 11, 14, 17, 24] HIM A MAN MANY YOU A A IAAYYAA [KNEW, NOTHING, OF, HIM, AND, I, WAS, A, YOUNG, MAN, WITH, MANY, OTHER, INTERESTS, YOU, CAN, PUT, A, COLT, IN, A, CORRAL, OR, TIE, A, DOG, UP, FOR, A, TIME, N] [3, 4, 6, 10, 11, 13, 24] RISING AND AS MY FURY AN PA IAAYYAA [HIM, MY, CHEST, RISING, AND, FALLING, AS, I, PANTED, OUT, MY, FURY, AS, AN, ANGRY, BOY, ID, OFTEN, PROMISED, MYSELF, THAT, SOMEDAY, HE, WOULD, PA] [1, 2, 8, 17, 20, 21, 24] AGAIN A WAS HUMBLY YOU SAID ARE IAAYYAA [ME, AGAIN, A, JEST, EVEN, A, ROUGH, JEST, WAS, WELCOME, YOU, WERE, SAYING, ABOUT, WARNINGS, I, ASKED, HUMBLY, HE, SIGHED, YOU, SAID, IT, WE, ARE, A] [1, 8, 9, 11, 14, 17, 22] INSTEAD A PLACE MY MY A A IAAYYAA [THAT, INSTEAD, HE, LEANED, OVER, TO, LOOK, AT, A, PLACE, BETWEEN, MY, SHOULDER, AND, MY, NECK, WHERE, A, FORGED, ONE, HAD, BITTEN, A, CHUNK, OUT, O] [1, 3, 7, 8, 13, 15, 19] I A WAS SLIGHTLY BY TARRY SPREAD IAAYYAA [TRAVELERS, I, FOUND, A, SMALL, DEPRESSION, THAT, WAS, SLIGHTLY, SHELTERED, FROM, THE, WIND, BY, SOME, TARRY, SMELLING, BRUSH, I, SPREAD] [0, 8, 15, 17, 19, 23, 25] I AWAY AS LADYS MOLLY SAID WA IAAYYAA [I, TRIED, TO, IMAGINE, THAT, MEETING, BUT, SHUDDERED, AWAY, FROM, IT, SHE, TOOK, ME, ON, AS, A, LADYS, MAID, MOLLY, SAID, SOFTLY, SHE, SAID, IT, WA] [0, 1, 3, 9, 10, 14, 17] I SAID CHADE YOUR DAYS GREAT THAN IAAYYAA [I, SAID, SULKILY, CHADE, SIGHED, AND, THE, END, OF, YOUR, DAYS, WILL, COME, A, GREAT, DEAL, LATER, THAN, THEY, WOULD, HAVE, HAD, HE, ACKNOWLEDG]Conclusion: The circled sequence IAAYYAA on page 22 is very likely to be connected to the cipher text written elsewhere.
That is so awesome!
