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Jarlve
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@daikon,

I found this about a week ago: http://quipqiup.com/index.php

Try it with:

TLMGERZYHZCEGEBZREDRYR
ITBYYFPEHEHLEHZHRTFTCR
RYRITFZGIPEHIYFEGTPEHH

It places possible word configurations into a cipher and then ranks them with letter 3-grams. I like the idea.

AZdecrypt

 
Posted : October 25, 2015 1:20 am
Jarlve
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Message to the Zodiac,

I found this cipher on http://mk-zodiac.com/ or http://mk-zodiac.com/mkcipherone%281of3%29.html

My transciption:

qirp*WLGuBV+f0Fe
k#H(cNI-EeT^e)Y.P
dDqYKotZ!LSHp'XYr
IMWFu.k|*(QJ+Oo
AitfKe-Ne/QTrRlq
s!LPeGBS^*!#E)BuD
RZtrdFql/p.YtWHX
k|e)Yf+'iYrO!q0q/

I’m not sure if it has been solved previously but here is the solution. There are a few spelling errors.

Update 1: corrected the errors.
Update 2: it seems that it’s actually a 3-part message like the 408.
Update 3: full transcription below.

Spoiler alert!
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moredetailbedescr
iptivetheconclusi
onmustreatateyour
thesisindifferent
wordscheckforgram
maticalandapellin
gerrorsmakesureto
includeyournamemk

After correction:

more detail be descriptive the conclusion must restate your thesis in different words check for grammatical and spelling errors make sure to include your name mk

AZdecrypt

 
Posted : November 2, 2015 7:05 pm
Marclean
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Hey Mr Jarlve, I can send you some Z340 models that build :?:

My English is poor, something may have escaped me in Zdkrypto. Can be BS, but anyway, I want to share my ideas.
If the answer is no, I will not be upset ok ;)
Marcelo Leandro

https://zodiacode1933.blogspot.com/

 
Posted : November 2, 2015 7:30 pm
Jarlve
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Sure Marclean, share your ideas.

Here is the whole MK cipher. I have not error-checked but it solves pretty high so it must be okay.

MZtp!F'XYrG.KPROq
W^HJiI-u!+_#0tkq
NDoAr(LES|ZF.l'!V
TYH'dYXAO#ptKi^G
)#MPBT!d#-'W_#)Su
DMXA'iYrleIkc(oP+
FB!LNHT'dYtVE)u
ZQ.'XYrpK!G'F-SB)
ei|'kKITJoMW+#lt
L!A-(eM!r0H-NpOI
dfYeouX^LMEVi*'GD
fH-ZeT|eBYFkdOIMq
(^otX*YeLPiDqY.He
)WSrB'KIlo+'TYL-
0!uFHMNVdf'qY.IE_
#)!k|'XYto-ZK(!PO
qirp*WLGuBV+f0Fe
k#H(cNI-EeT^e)Y.P
dDqYKotZ!LSHp'XYr
IMWFu.k|*(QJ+Oo
AitfKe-Ne/QTrRlq
s!LPeGBS^*!#E)BuD
RZtrdFql/p.YtWHX
k|e)Yf+'iYrO!q0q/

AZdecrypt

 
Posted : November 2, 2015 7:51 pm
Marclean
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Thank you,
I promise not to "pollute" your topic,
here are some ideas
– I thought the Z340 ordered according to the number of letters (discarding symbolos) both in ascending as descending order or horizontal ,or vertical etc.
The criterion-breaking order is the order in own code
for example:

RFOCFD  о^Ì-»ÄË>±¢ 6 letters
GJONyL  ¢±ÆÊ·+¸¤¹+¼  6 letters 

I

So I kept the order appearing in the code
a model

MIFP¸¼+¤ÔÊĵ+ˆ³Ë/
GFNVÌ^Ƶ±³Â•Ã³Ô++
SVORKÐн^̾»´Ð++±
RFOCFDо^Ì-»ÄË>±¢
GJONyL¢±ÆÊ·+¸¤¹+¼
uVJOFB-¤Ì+^+н<Ÿ-
SNIFBR¤°¼Ÿ·+µÃ¢ƒ¾
IBKOMGÕ´¤¢Ð^•Æѱ
NBODWyKÐ+¢·º•<»Æ£
KuXGVLI·µ+Ѻƒ±Ã•¤
MZRFBAKÄ<+Â+±ÃŸ°³
RJITMBF±<ÃÌ»µ³•+ˆ
BXCEVuZŸ²»„³¼>µ-+
WCWPOSHT++£¤Ã/¢£Ð
IFWByOBCËÄ<½Ô»-¸Ã
HERVPILTG>ÐÌ^˲±Ä
BMuZGWLHJŸ„Ã+¢£·¤
RTLCFWBILÃ+²°<+Ì£
MDHNSZOAIK>Ðˤ¾ƒ+
uREIDyBTMKO+/µÔÐÂ


I also models with even and odd (letters) that later, will post, without polluting reiterate, more put some things

I suppose someone must have already tried it, but anyway …

again grateful :D

Marcelo

https://zodiacode1933.blogspot.com/

 
Posted : November 2, 2015 8:10 pm
Jarlve
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Marclean,

I gave it an honest look and it doesn’t solve. Are you using Google translate or do you know enough English to get by?

AZdecrypt

 
Posted : November 2, 2015 8:49 pm
Marclean
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Marclean,

I gave it an honest look and it doesn’t solve. Are you using Google translate or do you know enough English to get by?

Unfortunately my English is bad, yes, I use translator.
This really is a barrier to more. (Unless the Z340 is in Spanish, Portuguese or Latin) :lol:
Okay, well, thanks for analysis mr Jarlve :D

Marcelo.

https://zodiacode1933.blogspot.com/

 
Posted : November 2, 2015 8:56 pm
daikon
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Message to the Zodiac,

I found this cipher on http://mk-zodiac.com/ or http://mk-zodiac.com/mkcipherone%281of3%29.html

The funny thing is, it spells out a Russian swear word in the last line. Not in it’s neutral form (Russian is a highly inflected language: many words change depending on the form, and not by just adding a simple suffix/ending, like in English), and it’s just a 3-letter word, so it can certainly happen by chance. Kind of goes to show that even supposedly unlikely coincidences can happen by pure chance.

 
Posted : November 2, 2015 10:14 pm
Jarlve
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@daikon,

I’ve always felt that the ZO^AIK = ZODIAC thing is overly ambiguous. But hey, who knows. :)

There also GYKE in the 408.

AZdecrypt

 
Posted : November 2, 2015 11:00 pm
smokie treats
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The funny thing is, it spells out a Russian swear word in the last line. Not in it’s neutral form (Russian is a highly inflected language: many words change depending on the form, and not by just adding a simple suffix/ending, like in English), and it’s just a 3-letter word, so it can certainly happen by chance. Kind of goes to show that even supposedly unlikely coincidences can happen by pure chance.

I apologize for asking a very off topic question, but I find it very exciting that we are all working together from different parts of the world. I grew up before the internet existed, and think that this new way that we have to communicate with each other is really amazing. It is a great time to live.

Daikon, if you don’t mind me asking, where abouts are you? Are you in the U.S., Europe, Russia, or somewhere else? You don’t have to answer if you don’t want to. But I have been wondering about where you are for several months now.

 
Posted : November 3, 2015 4:53 am
daikon
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Yeah, it seems we have a pretty international crowd here. I’m bilingual and a half, based in US at the moment.

 
Posted : November 3, 2015 9:57 pm
Marclean
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No one spoke of Brazil … :(
:)
This is a model BS by Marcelo with anagram LEIGH. the first line refers to, is like another I posted, only with this difference.
Vi that the symbols merge in zdkrypto, with L, R and C plus the letters of these mirrors, the number of pathers rises enough.
Marcelo :D

MIFP¸¼+¤ÔÊĵ+ˆ³Ë/
GFNVÌ^Ƶ±³Â•Ã³Ô++
SVORKÐн^̾»´Ð++±
RFOCFDо^Ì-»ÄË>±¢
GJONyL¢±ÆÊ·+¸¤¹+¼
uVJOFB-¤Ì+^+н<Ÿ-
SNIFBR¤°¼Ÿ·+µÃ¢ƒ¾
IBKOMGÕ´¤¢Ð^•Æѱ
NBODWyKÐ+¢·º•<»Æ£
KuXGVLI·µ+Ѻƒ±Ã•¤
MZRFBAKÄ<+Â+±ÃŸ°³
RJITMBF±<ÃÌ»µ³•+ˆ
BXCEVuZŸ²»„³¼>µ-+
WCWPOSHT++£¤Ã/¢£Ð
IFWByOBCËÄ<½Ô»-¸Ã
LEIGHRVPT>ÐÌ^˲±Ä
BMuZGWLHJŸ„Ã+¢£·¤
RTLCFWBILÃ+²°<+Ì£
MDHNSZOAIK>Ðˤ¾ƒ+
uREIDyBTMKO+/µÔÐÂ

https://zodiacode1933.blogspot.com/

 
Posted : November 4, 2015 1:46 am
Jarlve
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The next iteration of AZdecrypt will include a transposition solver. It’s a project that started out a couple of days ago and the first versions will probably be kept as simple as possible.

A problem we currently have with the 340 transposition hypothesis is that it’s hard to test specific transposition hypotheses/schemes, especially for those not trained in programming. The idea is that we can define a transposition scheme by its operations. So if you have a particular transposition hypothesis for the 340 you just select the necessary operations, throw a couple of test ciphers at it, if these solve proceed on to the 340. This way we will be able to rule out specific transpositions schemes more easily.

Later on I also want to attack the dreaded columnar – reordering – transposition (17!).

Right now I’m testing the transposition routine with a random walk, 5 different transposition operations and a variable stack size up to 6. I just threw Kryptos part 3 at it and it found several solves in under an hour. Psyching! Also appreciate the improved statistics output.

Transposition operation(s): 2d_dir(8,42,2) 2d_dir(24,14,2).

Score: 25109.58 Ioc: 0.06682658 Entropy: 4.093397 Chi-square: 16.077 Characters: 336 Letters: 22

slowlydesparatlyslowlytheremains
ofpassagedebristhatencumberedthe
lowerpartofthedoorwaywasremovedw
ithtremblinghandsimadeatinybreac
hintheupperlefthandcornerandthen
wideningtheholealittleiinsertedt
hecandleandpeeredinthehotairesca
pingfromthechambercausedtheflame
toflickerbutpresentlydetailsofth
eroomwithinemergedfromthemistica
nyouseeandthingb

Multiplicity: 0.08630952 Characters: 336 Symbols: 29

27 20 8 22 9 17 3 1 10 13 18 11 18 14 9 17 10 9 8 22 9 17 14 6 1 11 1 21 18 15 2 10
8 25 13 18 10 10 18 24 1 3 1 16 11 15 10 14 6 18 14 1 2 12 19 21 16 1 11 1 3 14 6 1
9 8 22 1 11 13 18 7 14 8 25 14 6 1 3 8 8 11 22 18 17 22 18 10 11 1 21 8 29 1 3 22
15 14 6 14 11 1 21 16 9 15 2 24 6 18 2 3 10 15 21 18 3 1 18 14 15 2 17 16 11 1 18 12
6 15 2 14 6 1 19 13 13 1 11 9 1 25 14 6 18 2 3 12 8 11 2 1 11 18 2 3 14 6 1 2
22 15 3 1 2 15 2 24 14 6 1 6 8 9 1 18 9 15 14 14 9 1 15 15 2 10 1 11 14 1 3 14
6 1 12 18 2 3 9 1 18 2 3 13 1 1 11 1 3 15 2 14 6 1 6 8 14 18 15 11 1 10 12 18
13 15 2 24 25 11 8 21 14 6 1 12 6 18 21 16 1 11 12 5 19 10 1 3 14 6 1 25 9 18 21 1
14 8 25 9 15 12 28 1 11 16 19 14 13 11 1 10 1 2 14 9 17 3 1 14 18 15 9 10 8 25 14 6
1 11 8 8 21 22 15 14 6 15 2 1 21 1 11 24 1 3 25 11 8 21 14 6 1 21 15 10 14 23 12 18
2 17 8 19 10 1 1 18 2 4 14 6 15 2 24 26 

AZdecrypt

 
Posted : January 23, 2016 5:48 pm
doranchak
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That’s a fantastic new feature — thanks for doing this!!

http://zodiackillerciphers.com

 
Posted : January 23, 2016 10:51 pm
Jarlve
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Thanks doranchak.

Here’s a preview of what the manipulation menu will look like, I spent the better part of the day thinking and coding it up. The window resolution is 800 by 600.

On the left you have the operations and on the right you have the queue, don’t worry about the inventory space, I will add pages to cycle through when necessary. You just click on the operations to add them to the queue and you can click on the operations in the queue to remove them from the queue.

Notice that in front of the Period operation in the queue there is a number 5. This is the a changeable ratio, let’s say we have two operations in our queue and we’d like to put more weight on any of them you can just adjust the ratio accordingly.

Also notice that the first operation in the queue (Offset) is in purple, this means that the operation is locked and will always be picked first by the solver. The operations which are not locked will be picked at random.

The fifth operation in the queue is missing because I removed it afterwards by clicking on it. The next operation I would then add appears in that fifth place. Any empty spots will be compressed by the solver afterwards. The arguments (x,y,a,b,c) should also be changeable but I might skip that for the first version. Everything will have tooltips which are shown in the place where "Click on operations to add them to the queue." appears.

Note to self, add reset button.

AZdecrypt

 
Posted : January 24, 2016 9:18 pm
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