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Tahoe27
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Sorry to jump in here–I know you guys don’t need my help! This cipher stuff is WAY out of my league. As always, I am impressed with all of your (everyones) hard work. You seem very cipher savvy Jarlve.

Just throwing this out there as a while ago I put in a post about repeated patters—granted, they are left to right, but I think there is something to it when you consider this; no matter left to right, pivots, etc.

For what it’s worth, I think this helps to emphasize some of those repeated pattern: viewtopic.php?f=81&t=856


…they may be dealing with one or more ersatz Zodiacs–other psychotics eager to get into the act, or perhaps even other murderers eager to lay their crimes at the real Zodiac’s doorstep. L.A. Times, 1969

 
Posted : March 14, 2015 4:09 am
traveller1st
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It does T and thanks.

I was actually considering that thread to dump my recent nonsense in but since I suspected that the proximity to the pivots would be noted I plumped for here. I was actually gonna add a link to your thread but you doing it saves me doing it lol. Ahhhhh, the easier, softer way. :D


I don’t know Chief, he’s very smart or very dumb.

 
Posted : March 14, 2015 4:21 am
bmichelle
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Smithy why is your image removed from your post?

The Best Mystery Is An Unsolved Mystery….

 
Posted : March 14, 2015 4:43 am
Jarlve
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Sorry to jump in here–I know you guys don’t need my help! This cipher stuff is WAY out of my league. As always, I am impressed with all of your (everyones) hard work. You seem very cipher savvy Jarlve.

Just throwing this out there as a while ago I put in a post about repeated patters—granted, they are left to right, but I think there is something to it when you consider this; no matter left to right, pivots, etc.

For what it’s worth, I think this helps to emphasize some of those repeated pattern: http://zodiackillersite.com/viewtopic.php?f=81&t=856

Thanks Tahoe27,

Something similar as your work in the link is on my to do list. It’s very useful.

AZdecrypt

 
Posted : March 14, 2015 7:17 pm
doranchak
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These patterns are interesting. One way to test for significance is to measure how often the same kind of patterns appear in the "shuffled" cipher text (for example, shuffling the 340 like a deck of cards), or in other normally constructed substitution ciphers. We know that your "repeated structure pattern" discovery (see http://zodiackillerciphers.com/wiki/ind … tle=Pivots) often occurs by chance in random text, so I’m wondering if these new patterns fall into the same category.

It is the kind of programming exercise I enjoy doing and may pursue it some day. Unless someone beats me to it. :D

http://zodiackillerciphers.com

 
Posted : March 16, 2015 10:50 pm
traveller1st
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It even has strings and pluses. :D :P


I don’t know Chief, he’s very smart or very dumb.

 
Posted : March 17, 2015 12:13 am
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