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doranchak
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Someone emailed this observation to me and I thought it was interesting. Not sure if anyone has noticed it before:

http://zodiackillerciphers.com/images/f … er-box.png

Near the end of line 2, K and backwards F appear. Near the beginning of line 19, F and backwards K appear, perfectly mirroring the symbols on line 2. There is an additional symmetry in their placement as corners of the inner box.

Significant or no?

http://zodiackillerciphers.com

 
Posted : April 25, 2019 1:12 am
traveller1st
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Dunno?

‘Fk’ certainly has its place in the annuls of ‘things’.

viewtopic.php?f=72&t=58


I don’t know Chief, he’s very smart or very dumb.

 
Posted : April 25, 2019 2:20 am
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Interesting. Just glancing, I also see BY and YB at the start of lines 3 and 15.

 
Posted : April 25, 2019 3:15 am
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If the mirrored FKs do carry significance perhaps that is why the Zodiac decided that it was important to correct the orientation of the K next to the F on line 6. These three instances of mirroring FK variations do conform to a rather perfect diagonal line.

 
Posted : April 25, 2019 3:59 am
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If the mirrored FKs do carry significance perhaps that is why the Zodiac decided that it was important to correct the orientation of the K next to the F on line 6. These three instances of mirroring FK variations do conform to a rather perfect diagonal line.

 
Posted : April 25, 2019 4:08 am
doranchak
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There is also this: Most of the Ls favor one side or another based on their orientation:

http://zodiackillerciphers.com

 
Posted : April 25, 2019 5:35 am
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Similar pattern with the V and the upside down V.

 
Posted : April 25, 2019 6:03 am
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Looking at the triangles, the top of the half has the sequence:

Full, empty, full, empty

The bottom half has:

empty, full, empty, full.

 
Posted : April 25, 2019 6:18 am
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The diagonally half-filled squares have the sequence

Right, left, left, left,
right, left, left, left.

 
Posted : April 25, 2019 6:21 am
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The 3 P symbols are each separated by 4 reversed P symbols.

 
Posted : April 25, 2019 6:39 am
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There is also this: Most of the Ls favor one side or another based on their orientation:

the Ls forward and backward in the top half are in columns in the bottom half higilty pigilty

 
Posted : April 25, 2019 7:04 am
doranchak
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Similar pattern with the V and the upside down V.

Interesting!

http://zodiackillerciphers.com

 
Posted : April 25, 2019 4:17 pm
doranchak
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Nice observations, TheMist! I added illustrations:

Looking at the triangles, the top of the half has the sequence:

Full, empty, full, empty

The bottom half has:

empty, full, empty, full.

The diagonally half-filled squares have the sequence

Right, left, left, left,
right, left, left, left.

The 3 P symbols are each separated by 4 reversed P symbols.

http://zodiackillerciphers.com

 
Posted : April 25, 2019 4:28 pm
rh13
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this is interesting.
I have been working on similar ideas and patterns but not quite like these.

“when they do crack it they will have me”

 
Posted : April 25, 2019 7:05 pm
jacob
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I wonder if connecting the dots of the symmetrical keys would reveal anything interesting. Star constellations maybe?

 
Posted : April 25, 2019 11:21 pm
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