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Things I noticed about Z340

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doranchak
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It must have to do with the sequential property of the ciphertext.

Example cycle:

ABCDEABCDEABCDEABCDEABCDE

Example cycle by 5 columns:

ABCDE
ABCDE
ABCDE
ABCDE
ABCDE

Sensible?

Right, but why would they prefer certain columns? For example, there are other symbols occurring somewhat randomly between A and B, then between B and C, etc.

For instance, here are all the Z408 symbols that stand for plaintext E:

There are 5 strong cycles of the 7-symbol pattern. Are the individual symbols lining up with columns more than expected?

http://zodiackillerciphers.com

 
Posted : November 12, 2017 4:09 pm
Jarlve
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Right, but why would they prefer certain columns? For example, there are other symbols occurring somewhat randomly between A and B, then between B and C, etc.

Why? Because repeats are pushed out of the rows into the columns and the other symbols that may occur between A and B and so forth do not entirely destroy/randomize this property. Cycles also happen to be multiplicative, that is why measurement systems like smokie’s way of measuring all the symbol cycles work so well.

ABCDE
ABCDE
ABCDE
ABCDE
ABCDE

AZdecrypt

 
Posted : November 12, 2017 4:55 pm
doranchak
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Ah, yes – I can see it being a relative effect, i.e. when compared to row-level repeats.

http://zodiackillerciphers.com

 
Posted : November 12, 2017 4:59 pm
doranchak
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P.S. I so wish Webtoy would use consistent ASCII mapping across all Z ciphers! I nearly missed the fact that the same letters in Z13/Z32/Z340 map to entirely different symbols in each cipher. For example, 8 in Z13 is not the same symbol as 8 in Z340. Which is why I’m using actual pictograms in this post, and not ASCII, to avoid any confusion.

I finally corrected that particular annoyance. I’ve updated the transcriptions of Z13 and Z32 on the wiki as well as in CryptoScope.

http://zodiackillerciphers.com

 
Posted : November 13, 2017 1:39 am
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