"judomagic↓
Re: fiddle / fart / fiddle-fart
Fri Nov 15, 2013 5:56 am
In 1963 in San Francisco, Ca. I was playing around with funny words and I came up with fiddlefart. I do not know if it had been in use before (I was only 17) so I started using it everywhere I went. Mostly up and down the California coast, Hawaii and in correspondence. I put it into as many conversations as I could and people would always say that they had never that expression but they knew immediately what I meant. In the ensuing years I traveled to New York City, Boston, New Orleans, Honolulu, Fairbanks, motorcycled through California, Nevada, Idaho, Wyoming, and Oregon. It wasn’t until 2001 that I heard someone I didn’t know use that word. They did not know where they first heard but thought it was in common usage. There is no way I can prove that I was the first, it was just a teenage experiment about how words become incorporated in general use. I am not like the people at the Oxford English Dictionary that researches the first usage of a word in print. Does anyone know when the first recorded use of fiddlefart was used?"
I do not know the answer but recall my father using it from an early age.. it was always "stop fiddle and farting about and get on with it" best guess late 1960s.. that was in Australia..
"Quit fiddle-farting around!" was the phrase I heard back in the 50s.
My former mother-in-law said "don’t fiddle and fart around" in the same context as above. She was from Oklahoma and would be in her mid to late 80’s if she were still living. I believe the phrase is a combination of "fiddle around" and "fart around" to give it more emphasis.
I believe the phrase is probably from the late 40’s or early 50’s. Whenever it became acceptable for people to use the word "fart" in a daily use sentence. That’s my guess, and also I believe the origins are Texas and straight upwards to the north (Oklahoma, Kansas, Nebraska, South Dakota, North Dakota)
Wood
I believe the phrase is probably from the late 40’s or early 50’s. Whenever it became acceptable for people to use the word "fart" in a daily use sentence. That’s my guess, and also I believe the origins are Texas and straight upwards to the north (Oklahoma, Kansas, Nebraska, South Dakota, North Dakota)
Wood
Agreed wood. It seems like a term used often by the Midwest farmer types.
