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Mil Potrero Ranch

 
Posted : October 2, 2019 1:23 am
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Tejos Ranch is know as, "The Ranch".

 
Posted : October 2, 2019 1:36 am
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someone who understands this stuff please go read this.
https://www.space.com/33583-moving-the-prime-meridian-on-earth.html

I can’t explain it to make anyone understand what I am talking about, that the POINT of the meridian and baseline intersections are all OFF SET. 17 years ago the mt diablo one was underground and 3 feet off from where the plaque was …now they have moved it again and on a pedestal … now they have gsp satelite that is going to change things again. this might not mean much to anyone who does not care, but to The Zodiac person who is plotting this out and committing crimes accordingly it is going to make a HUGE difference TO THEM… and who would have the knowledge to adjust this in their crimes??? not many people. I don’t know any killers who would.Even if they were some person with this belief, they could not do it… so it is going to be very few killers out there, who are trying to re-create creation who could mathematically adjust this… so who is the GOD of The Zodiac? someone who knows how to do this… and it is going to be someone who when we look at all their crazy BENT MATH as I call it, who just looks like they are doing some scribbling numbers that make no sense to us… Look at Harvey, he is doing BENT math. Although I don’t understand how to do it, I recognize it. And I do understand a lot about geological markers so I am seeing this stuff. I’m thinking this is why all the crazy math to adjust this stuff. after all the creation of the earth and the universe is all mathematical, and GRAVITY is ALL OVER harvey’s calculations. and that has everything to do with the base lines of the earth. and the base lines have to do with the jig jagging jogging of the roads to adjust the longitude and latitudes and MIGHT/ Probably be why cars are moved and people are taken elsewhere down the road, or moved or posed to the east or west etc.

They are re-creating paradise… not to be confused with their para dice… which is BESIDE. protecting the one speaking.

take into the fact Harvey HATES women because they can do whatever they want but men can’t. They caused the loss of Paradise in the first place… adam and eve… and He’s re-creating his own paradise and women will be slaves and not be allowed to rule over men.

if you understand the power of words/ . word magic… (that sounds occult-like to a lot of people, but the fact is… GOD created the earth and everything in it by SPEAKING> . read it.. HE SPOKE the world and the heavens into existence by speaking, and yes HEAVENS. not one, and paradise was in the 3rd heaven, then the gates of paradise were closed and the people locked out. so The God of the Zodiac is trying to re-create all of this. the reason why you find so many references to Paradise, Gates, New Jerusalem, Vernalis(the springs, possibly Hebron?) . it is not just because there are so many of the same names in all towns(which there are for sure) but The God of The Zodiac sees this on his maps and uses them.

I just read the Edwards murder and noticed Vallecito and Calaveras… that is interesting to me and just JUMPED out of the article at me. Valecito is in calaveras county right by Angels camp and that is very interesting to me. it is also in an area that looks just like the area in the 1970 photo of THE RANCH of Harveys. So I’m going to go look in Caleveras County.

Valecito -= little ball . and caleveras = skulls. a little ball could be a dot.
I know I sound nuts, but this is the way these people think…believe me I KNOW…

so what if DOT is a little ball, a DOT… and the skull is the death… the body. and the moving of the cars etc it for the adjustment of the baslines and meridians.
yes, I know, my mind works in weird ways… but if someone can try this out, I will bet you TOTALLY, you’ll see a pattern.

it’s all CREATING another paradise. it’s all spiritual. and harvey has tons of this work all through his stuff. I SEE it. so he is re-creating creation. So is "someone" in The Zodiac… but not everyone in The Zodiac can do this. most of them are followers for whatever reason, but they don’t have the capacity to do this. But Harvey does. And I think Harvey learned this stuff back when he was talking to his friend in the psyche ward in the miliary and he went on to learn linguistics to further his Word Magic/creation. His mind just works this way.

My mind works this way because I am a very Spiritual person and I Guess a little birdie tweeted to me way more than they realized. But I like you little birdie, so don’t worry, be happy, cuz every little thing’s gonna be alright. I”m sure you are out here building your nest getting ready for the winter.. I have a few twigs for you if you need them. Some things are just meant to be, and although I don’t want to be out here like this… it is what it is, and it is something I have to do. why, I don’t even know. but of course you knew that all along, or you would have never popped up. I don’t know where this is going to go, but you’re safe. Don’t Be Concerned.

 
Posted : October 2, 2019 2:18 am
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Mil Potrero Ranch

this is a nice piece of info. Sounds like something you would find.

you must have dug deep into the sandbox to find that info.

now for me to figure out what the heck to do with that.

do you have a time frame on that?

And how long would it take to get to the race track from there?

God what am I doing here.

 
Posted : October 2, 2019 2:39 am
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The Abstraction is to HIDE the meanings of the words, this is why he says Words HAVE NO MEANING, because they do not mean what they say, therefore, if you read them on the surface, it means NOTHING.
He also says "Never say what you mean, never mean what you say"(maybe not exact but pretty much word for word like that. That is the uni
The whole HAIR thing … Hair is strength and when you cut is(like Samson) you get WEAK, you are WEARING DOWN… I think when he is referring to "cutting hair" he is weakening the person.
He says he uses words to wear people down so he can control them. He knows the power or words, probably more so than anyone but a few people I have met in my entire life, and I’ve met
many who use words. Harvey knows how to manipulate and BRAINWASH with words. I think he would use the power of words to try to brainwash people into doing what he wanted, and possibly even
to the point of having them help him or cover up what HE was doing…
/quote]

I can confirm this statement, among many others you’ve made. I fell under his spell as a child and protected him from the kids in the neighborhood that harassed him and threw rocks at his house. Later in life I protected him from the police. He was deathly afraid they were going to come take him away at any moment. At the end, 2 weeks before he died, the police came to his house to do a welfare check on him and when he didn’t answer his door for them they came to me and told me that they needed to check on Harvey. Officer O’Neill told me that I needed to let them in to see Harvey and I told them I wouldn’t do that. He then told me that if I didn’t get his house key and let them into his house that I would go to jail. I got the key and went next door. I unlocked the door and went inside calling out to Harvey to let him know the police were there to check on his welfare and he went ballistic. Screaming and yelling that they were not to come inside. I tried to calm him down and at first he was angry at me but i told him that I refused to go to jail for him and that all they wanted was to make sure he was ok. They ended up taking him to the hospital where he refused to eat or drink anything til they released him. He fasted for an entire week there and they weren’t going to let him leave til he showed them that he could walk on his own. Then I realized he gave me durable power of attorney and I got him out of there and back home that day. He died from pneumonia at home just a few days later. He definitely had control of me all my life and many others too. But they’re all dead now. I never understood it til this all has come about. But it’s very true. It’s a real thing.

wait a minute…. they take him to the hospital… , you get him out, he comes home and dies a few days later ????

why did they come to do a welfare check on him in the first place… who had them do that? where is that report, someone find it .

why would anyone have a welfare check done on him if you were taking care of him? oh, relentless. something is not right here

where is he buried? where is his death certificate

 
Posted : October 2, 2019 2:59 am
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Google Chumash Indians. They have pictographs on wikipedia. They have Zodiac circle cross symbols all over them. The have Pine Mountain Club there. It used to be a ranch until they developed it in 1967-1971. Harvey lived not to far from there. He must have used their language in his coded writings. Just like the Code Talkers during WWll.

I seem to be going through your posts backwards and out of sequence but I do that a lot, but I’m getting is straight now. sorry I answered out of sequential order.
I’ll try to keep up better so I’m not answering the last first and the first last. let me go answer your other posts now
I would not want you to be confused nor concerned about what I’m saying. are you? haha . did not mean for you to be but sometimes I just don’t see things right off

 
Posted : October 2, 2019 3:09 am
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Google Chumash Indians. They have pictographs on wikipedia. They have Zodiac circle cross symbols all over them. The have Pine Mountain Club there. It used to be a ranch until they developed it in 1967-1971. Harvey lived not to far from there. He must have used their language in his coded writings. Just like the Code Talkers during WWll.

I seem to be going through your posts backwards and out of sequence but I do that a lot, but I’m getting is straight now. sorry I answered out of sequential order.
I’ll try to keep up better so I’m not answering the last first and the first last. let me go answer your other posts now
I would not want you to be confused nor concerned about what I’m saying. are you? haha . did not mean for you to be but sometimes I just don’t see things right off

you know the turtle, though slow, finally made it there, and ahead of the hare..
welcome to my world. this changes things Boo. I’m going to listen to music and dance

I remembered something about this once and why I went away, but then thought, hmmm, maybe I was wrong.
and for some reason back here. but I’m not here for THAT, I’m here because someone stole mil Ft of hats, while I was eating shoe fly pie

 
Posted : October 2, 2019 3:29 am
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Yes I am worried not. Im smoking Mochi (gelato 47) over here and I have no concerns whatsoever. My biggest problem is deciding what flavor Ben and Jerry’s I am going to buy with my 12-pack of Coca Cola. Im going up the store shortly when I finish my joint.

 
Posted : October 2, 2019 3:36 am
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Yes I am worried not. Im smoking Mochi (gelato 47) over here and I have no concerns whatsoever. My biggest problem is deciding what flavor Ben and Jerry’s I am going to buy with my 12-pack of Coca Cola. Im going up the store shortly when I finish my joint.

Too bad it is not the 60’s, you could just buy some thunderbird wine and I’d come chug a jug with you… but being that is times past, I’m going to sit here and watch cheech and chong.
But first I think I’ll go to the store also and hope the heck it is still open. I heard they had it blocked off redoing the entrance where a car ran through it. I like being right next to the store,
but if it closes, I’m going to be pissed off, cuz I really like this store. so hopefully my store is open. When you get back, I hope to talk some more.
you know holmes, there are a lot of people who stand on the overpasses and turnpikes and pelt people, with rocks as they go by. I don’t blame those throwing the rocks, and I hate turnpikes, they are accidents waiting
to happen. I am a rock, I am an island. I am a pelican flying in the oaks. I might be part saquash but 100% ur street who Koo. have fun, just dont get lost on the way and end up at my store.
peace out

 
Posted : October 2, 2019 4:20 am
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ok I want to look at this edwards case stuff more
and I’ll go look in calaveras county for anything interesting to do with harvey or The Zodiac

 
Posted : October 2, 2019 4:47 am
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wait a minute…. they take him to the hospital… , you get him out, he comes home and dies a few days later ????

why did they come to do a welfare check on him in the first place… who had them do that? where is that report, someone find it .

why would anyone have a welfare check done on him if you were taking care of him? oh, relentless. something is not right here.

where is he buried? where is his death certificate.

Harvey was adamant about dying in the same house as his mother, he was refusing treatment and Relentless obliged to his wishes that he did not want to be in hospital. My own impression of Harvey is that he was stubborn as a mule.

Yes, dyslexia is probably my first undiagnosed language.

 
Posted : October 2, 2019 8:49 am
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Sorry, I will not be posting any more . I will be reading. but not posting. If you need me for anything, just message me and I’ll tell you how to get ahold of me

Be assured… The Zodiac(faction) is alive and well. I know no one understands that. Expect to see them in the news, or at least the effects of what they do.
I’ll be watching, but I won’t be posting.
I GUESS it is what it is.
I’ll be watching Cheech and Chong
Eating a can of peas. and on second thought
someone pass me that jug

PEACE… to ALL

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GdxUIZOzd5E
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-BIu-2kFEzI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UbWxeQNYPVg

 
Posted : October 2, 2019 9:19 am
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The Abstraction is to HIDE the meanings of the words, this is why he says Words HAVE NO MEANING, because they do not mean what they say, therefore, if you read them on the surface, it means NOTHING.
He also says "Never say what you mean, never mean what you say"(maybe not exact but pretty much word for word like that. That is the uni
The whole HAIR thing … Hair is strength and when you cut is(like Samson) you get WEAK, you are WEARING DOWN… I think when he is referring to "cutting hair" he is weakening the person.
He says he uses words to wear people down so he can control them. He knows the power or words, probably more so than anyone but a few people I have met in my entire life, and I’ve met
many who use words. Harvey knows how to manipulate and BRAINWASH with words. I think he would use the power of words to try to brainwash people into doing what he wanted, and possibly even
to the point of having them help him or cover up what HE was doing…
/quote]

I can confirm this statement, among many others you’ve made. I fell under his spell as a child and protected him from the kids in the neighborhood that harassed him and threw rocks at his house. Later in life I protected him from the police. He was deathly afraid they were going to come take him away at any moment. At the end, 2 weeks before he died, the police came to his house to do a welfare check on him and when he didn’t answer his door for them they came to me and told me that they needed to check on Harvey. Officer O’Neill told me that I needed to let them in to see Harvey and I told them I wouldn’t do that. He then told me that if I didn’t get his house key and let them into his house that I would go to jail. I got the key and went next door. I unlocked the door and went inside calling out to Harvey to let him know the police were there to check on his welfare and he went ballistic. Screaming and yelling that they were not to come inside. I tried to calm him down and at first he was angry at me but i told him that I refused to go to jail for him and that all they wanted was to make sure he was ok. They ended up taking him to the hospital where he refused to eat or drink anything til they released him. He fasted for an entire week there and they weren’t going to let him leave til he showed them that he could walk on his own. Then I realized he gave me durable power of attorney and I got him out of there and back home that day. He died from pneumonia at home just a few days later. He definitely had control of me all my life and many others too. But they’re all dead now. I never understood it til this all has come about. But it’s very true. It’s a real thing.

wait a minute…. they take him to the hospital… , you get him out, he comes home and dies a few days later ????

why did they come to do a welfare check on him in the first place… who had them do that? where is that report, someone find it .

It’s a long story. That was just the shortened version of what happened.

why would anyone have a welfare check done on him if you were taking care of him? oh, relentless. something is not right here

He told me exactly 2 weeks before he died that he was going to die in 2 weeks and told me we had a lot of work to do in that 2 weeks. The first thing he said was we needed to get his affairs in order, hire a nurse to come to his house and he wanted me there 3 times a day, everyday, 7 am. 12 noon and 7 pm. So, I had the papers made up quickly, to reflect his wishes and we gathered, with witnesses, on a weekday afternoon at his house, with a notary, to have the documents signed and notarized. I used the same notary once before, years earlier when I needed to become power of attorney for him. This time he was too weak to come to the dining room and he asked if we would all come to his bedside to finalize these documents. I had never been in his bedroom before. I had never seen the back part of the house at all. I had no idea what to expect. It was so bad back there that everyone just stood there in shock. He was in his bed, nude. The notary was visibly shaking. It was bad. Really unbelievably bad. We got done with the signing of the docs and left his room and the house and we all talked briefly on his driveway about the condition of his house. The next day the police came for the welfare check and that’s when they took him to the hospital. There’s more but thats why they came. The notary went to the senior center and reported what she saw. And I am eternally grateful to her for it.

where is he buried? where is his death certificate

He wanted to be cremated. I have his death certs.

 
Posted : October 2, 2019 10:16 am
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I messaged you relentless.. check message here. I won’t post here anymore

 
Posted : October 2, 2019 10:48 am
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Whats it all about?

 
Posted : October 2, 2019 5:30 pm
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