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jacob
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Hi,
Yes, Harvey’s step father was Edward E. Marshall. He owned and operated the Marshall Shingle Company in Oakland, California. Harvey was employed by the Marshall Shingle Company in February 1953 for an unknown length of time. You will find proof of this information here: https://relentless1.net/2020/08/24/mars … alifornia/

Didn’t that place burn down? Or am I thinking of something else?

I believe you’re thinking of the 1973 military records fire.

 
Posted : August 25, 2020 6:21 pm
CuriousCat
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Hi,
Yes, Harvey’s step father was Edward E. Marshall. He owned and operated the Marshall Shingle Company in Oakland, California. Harvey was employed by the Marshall Shingle Company in February 1953 for an unknown length of time. You will find proof of this information here: https://relentless1.net/2020/08/24/mars … alifornia/

Didn’t that place burn down? Or am I thinking of something else?

I believe you’re thinking of the 1973 military records fire.

No, you must have missed the post where it was confirmed it did indeed burn.

I thought it had, but wasn’t sure. I think Sandy’s POI was involved in some fire and I thought perhaps that was what I was thinking of.

 
Posted : August 26, 2020 1:58 am
relentlessz
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Harvey’s military records were destroyed in that 1973 fire. I apologize if I’ve been unclear. There are copies of them from his files but I don’t think it is all of them.

 
Posted : August 26, 2020 4:08 am
relentlessz
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I think I’ve taken this avenue as far as I can.

Even if Lucille was in Riverside in 66 it would be met with the usual silence.

Harvey Marshall, teacher, San Luis Obispo, 1964.

If it weren’t for cc and Jacob, we would just be talking to ourselves.

 
Posted : August 26, 2020 9:05 am
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They are the ones that keep me going :D

 
Posted : August 26, 2020 1:23 pm
jacob
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I think I’ve taken this avenue as far as I can.

Even if Lucille was in Riverside in 66 it would be met with the usual silence.

Harvey Marshall, teacher, San Luis Obispo, 1964.

If it weren’t for cc and Jacob, we would just be talking to ourselves.

Happy to help.

 
Posted : August 26, 2020 5:18 pm
jacob
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I think I’ve taken this avenue as far as I can.

Even if Lucille was in Riverside in 66 it would be met with the usual silence.

Harvey Marshall, teacher, San Luis Obispo, 1964.

Where was Harvey in 1963? The Domingos/Edwards murders were in nearby Santa Barbara.

 
Posted : August 27, 2020 12:25 am
CuriousCat
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I think I’ve taken this avenue as far as I can.

Even if Lucille was in Riverside in 66 it would be met with the usual silence.

Harvey Marshall, teacher, San Luis Obispo, 1964.

Where was Harvey in 1963? The Domingos/Edwards murders were in nearby Santa Barbara.

Harvey was in Santa Barbara in 1963, his wife was talking about looking at houses in Lompoc. I think Simplicity means Santa Barbara, not San Luis Obispo.

 
Posted : August 27, 2020 1:20 am
jacob
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I think I’ve taken this avenue as far as I can.

Even if Lucille was in Riverside in 66 it would be met with the usual silence.

Harvey Marshall, teacher, San Luis Obispo, 1964.

Where was Harvey in 1963? The Domingos/Edwards murders were in nearby Santa Barbara.

Harvey was in Santa Barbara in 1963, his wife was talking about looking at houses in Lompoc. I think Simplicity means Santa Barbara, not San Luis Obispo.

Domingos and Edwards were high school students. Where did Harvey teach in Santa Barbara?

 
Posted : August 27, 2020 1:24 am
CuriousCat
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Domingos and Edwards were high school students. Where did Harvey teach in Santa Barbara?

Local college, don’t remember the name.

 
Posted : August 27, 2020 2:17 am
jacob
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Domingos and Edwards were high school students. Where did Harvey teach in Santa Barbara?

Local college, don’t remember the name.

Thanks. I wondered if he ever taught in Riverside (but we’d probably know that by now).

Any mention of the Santa Barbara murders in his papers? I thought he might have made some note of it considering he was living there at the time.

 
Posted : August 27, 2020 2:25 am
relentlessz
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He lived in Santa Maria and taught linguistics at Hancock College.
I need to verify the dates. Early to mid 60s.

 
Posted : August 27, 2020 6:12 am
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Just came across this although I’ve been following the Z case on and off for decades

Harvey Colliver is an exciting POI
Closest in psychological profile, personality, locality, intelligence, obsessions, creativity, math and
linguistics…and fits the physical profile…if slightly short.
He’s how I envision the Z

Although I’ve only glanced at the sketches and documents, ive seen similarities in handwriting as well as similarities and patterns.
I’m hoping to be able to look at them more closely as time allows
I’ll go back and reread what you’ve written about him and do some research…but was hoping to save time if Relentleez…(or Simplicity2) knew the answers below

Predictable questions
Any relationship to Vallejo/Benecia? Lake Herman Rd is remote…one needs some type of relationship
How about Lake Berryessa?

Any distinguishing speech patterns? Drawling vowels, clicky or hard constantants
Midwest accent? Where did he grow up?

Shoe size?

We lose a couple inches as we age in height…do you know his height in his 30-40s

Did he ever use a fountain pen? Any Monarch size paper in those piles?

Ever see him sew anything…like a button?

Regarding the attached docs..
Are some of the bearded sketches self portaits
For example the king one?

The map with cities/areas circled…Did he do that?
is that one found amongst his things? If so any references as to why those cities are circulated… should we look into cold cases in each?

Relentlessz
I saw you requested info from the FBI… but hoping you packaged this up and sent to the FBI….not sure who to send it to… probably SF office or maybe someone has a direct contact.
If you haven’t sent the film to a film expert, they should be able to refer too

Thank you
~Stef

 
Posted : September 18, 2020 9:03 am
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hallelujah!

To relate with you Snoopy I find Harvey’s varying character inline and in tune with that of the Zodiacs. His writings dated in the late 60’s have a certain eccentric flows that mimic in time and location to the Zodiacs own.

The understanding of Harvey’s eccentric “out there” writings are complemented immensely by chronological happens of The Zodiac.

Repeat that part, the dates of Harvey’s eccentric writings which are with in days of Zodiac events are enhance and are given meaning. In a nutshell If Harvey was the Zodiac then it was simply a linguistic thought experiment envisioned by Harvey. His writings during this time have everything to do with the power of words and symbols.

The power of Zodiacs own letters (not the Ciphers) is linguistically packed that 60 years on these menacing letters continue to captivate and few understand or give it much importance when considering a POI.

The ebbs and flows of Harvey and the Zodiacs own is undeniable yet so hard to display. And it is especially hard to counter the very sever ingrained perspectives everyone has on what the Zodiac was or was not and having someone who see’s this is why I say hallelujah.

Look at the dates Harvey writes, put yourself in his shoes, wonder what he is obsessively trying to achieve and finally contrast Harvey’s writings with the doings of the Zodiac, it will blow your mind.

 
Posted : September 18, 2020 5:55 pm
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And what’s going on? That guy is very interesting.

 
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