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Thank you Simplicity for posting all and find Harvey interesting! Though again where do you get his accomplice was a hot POI on this forum ? You seem to now want to stray from that and add no proof he even had a accomplice

 
Posted : February 25, 2019 10:08 am
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I’m sorry but when you mention something then when question on it take the highroad. Seems deceitful!

 
Posted : February 25, 2019 10:27 am
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I’m sorry but when you mention something then when question on it take the highroad. Seems deceitful!

There’s no deceit because documents are all there and all additional things are coming.

Things can easily be verified and if it’s something in particular i’m open to show why i give a answer.

the possible rick marshall link which i have answered before is for the following reasons

harvey’s mother remarried to a marshall – the first name of which i stated wrongly and will amend. I do not know if there is a connection.
both ham radio enthusiast
both film enthusiasts
harvey owned a printing press that may produce the odd shape paper
harvey was often in San fran often 68 69
both have links to a oakland priest in writings

And there is more which will come back to me.

each i can verify, Its a matter of coincidences but a definitive link i can not produce and am seeking help to explore those avenues, i can not find any family history of rick, aside that he might of inherited money at one point in time.

Yes, dyslexia is probably my first undiagnosed language.

 
Posted : February 25, 2019 11:00 am
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Well thank you now that you named the possible accomplice! You do realize Marshall had so many damn alias though ? Again though thank you for answering my question! Post script. look forward to hearing any connection Harvey has to Marshall.

 
Posted : February 25, 2019 11:15 am
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Well thank you now that you named the possible accomplice! You do realize Marshall had so many damn alias though ? Again though thank you for answering my question!

No problem, i suggest checking the original harvey thread, i think i elaborated more regarding the link.

and yes about the alias i recently found out (yesterday) that rick marshall may not be his real name.

Yes, dyslexia is probably my first undiagnosed language.

 
Posted : February 25, 2019 11:23 am
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simplicity, you are a busy beaver. This is really great and I think the timings good too, people on the main thread were getting frustrated.

 
Posted : February 25, 2019 11:26 am
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This thread is dedicated to the odd findings amongst Harvey’s Documents, its purpose is to give easier access.

If there is anything relating to Zodiac or Harvey simply ask and I’ll dig up the relating documents.
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What are we thinking here? That the pies resemble the Zodiac symbol? I don’t like that line of enquiry, it’s either the Zodiac symbol, or it’s not, and if it’s not it may as well be a smiley face as far as I’m concerned. I think the problem is looking at the way two symbols are visually similar, that’s really not all that important, the letter L superficially resembles an upper case I and yet english readers would never confuse the two. The Zodiac symbol has a specific meaning, he’s not about to use a similar symbol. Now the use of other symbols in a similar context, that would be something. Like signing a letter with another symbol, that would be noteworthy.

What else do we think? I’m thinking we should compare the way those fraction are written to the page numbering on the bus bomb letter.

 
Posted : February 25, 2019 11:33 am
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simplicity, would it be fair to say that Harvey actually has the habit of doing his page numbering in the upper left corner? I felt like every time I saw page numbering it was on the left.

 
Posted : February 25, 2019 11:52 am
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This thread is dedicated to the odd findings amongst Harvey’s Documents, its purpose is to give easier access.

If there is anything relating to Zodiac or Harvey simply ask and I’ll dig up the relating documents.
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What are we thinking here? That the pies resemble the Zodiac symbol? I don’t like that line of enquiry, it’s either the Zodiac symbol, or it’s not, and if it’s not it may as well be a smiley face as far as I’m concerned. I think the problem is looking at the way two symbols are visually similar, that’s really not all that important, the letter L superficially resembles an upper case I and yet english readers would never confuse the two. The Zodiac symbol has a specific meaning, he’s not about to use a similar symbol. Now the use of other symbols in a similar context, that would be something. Like signing a letter with another symbol, that would be noteworthy.

What else do we think? I’m thinking we should compare the way those fraction are written to the page numbering on the bus bomb letter.

I started with the sugar, but it will be a balance diet, plenty of fiber to come :lol:

I will choose subjects in time and run with each, but it is the totality of the writings and drawings, I don’t know how to show what I’ve seen with out having my words doing the talking.

Just the picture uploading is rather difficult, don’t know why it duplicated pictures.

When this baby flies and someone else grasps what is here I will go quiet and that will be the end of my quasi detective career.

Yes, dyslexia is probably my first undiagnosed language.

 
Posted : February 25, 2019 11:57 am
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simplicity, would it be fair to say that Harvey actually has the habit of doing his page numbering in the upper left corner? I felt like every time I saw page numbering it was on the left.

Varies, like his handwriting and mood.

Yes, dyslexia is probably my first undiagnosed language.

 
Posted : February 25, 2019 11:59 am
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There appears to be two red X near Graviota, can’t tell if they have been drawn there, make what you will out of it.

What is this? A clue for ants?! :D

I don’t know about these tiny marks. Marks on a Zodiac map, sure, but marks so tiny? I mean what’s the point?

Those marks are precise and almost identical, it’s pretty clear they’re a printed serif font.

 
Posted : February 25, 2019 12:51 pm
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There appears to be two red X near Graviota, can’t tell if they have been drawn there, make what you will out of it.

What is this? A clue for ants?!

I don’t know about these tiny marks. Marks on a Zodiac map, sure, but marks so tiny? I mean what’s the point?

Those marks are precise and almost identical, it’s pretty clear they’re a printed serif font.

Something i spotted, haven’t spoken to relentless about it, cant find similar on the map quick search, don’t know what it relates to, doesn’t look hand printed.

Edit it’s really "off the cuff" when i wrote that. hoping someone else would double check cause there’s other things on my mind.

Yes, dyslexia is probably my first undiagnosed language.

 
Posted : February 25, 2019 12:52 pm
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There appears to be two red X near Graviota, can’t tell if they have been drawn there, make what you will out of it.

What is this? A clue for ants?!

I don’t know about these tiny marks. Marks on a Zodiac map, sure, but marks so tiny? I mean what’s the point?

Those marks are precise and almost identical, it’s pretty clear they’re a printed serif font.

Something i spotted, haven’t spoken to relentless about it, cant find similar on the map quick search, don’t know what it relates to, doesn’t look hand printed.

Edit it’s really "off the cuff" when i wrote that. hoping someone else would double check cause there’s other things on my mind.

Fair enough, I don’t want to shoot down a closer examination of the maps, but those particular crosses are printed, there colour looks similar to the other reds found on the map. The only way to put them on there would be with a stamp and I’d hazard a guess that the those marks are too small to be a stamp.

 
Posted : February 25, 2019 1:05 pm
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Fair enough, I don’t want to shoot down a closer examination of the maps, but those particular crosses are printed, there colour looks similar to the other reds found on the map. The only way to put them on there would be with a stamp and I’d hazard a guess that the those marks are too small to be a stamp.

One reason I didn’t write it off is that I know Harvey is capable of fine penmanship, I just informed relentless, sure to get a answer soon.

Like everything else its circumstantial and if its exists im sure negatively and questions regarding myself and relentless will come up.

So before that happens, if it does exist in pen – cool, I don’t care, add it to the list of oddities that offer no clear answer.

Just being focused, hopefully i don’t sound rude :D im just starting with sugar in hopes others read up.

Yes, dyslexia is probably my first undiagnosed language.

 
Posted : February 25, 2019 1:15 pm
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I like that Harvey does a lot of mechanical drawings. They don’t appear to be done in the same hand as the Zodiac, but they’re the same type of simplified hasty sketch diagrams. In other words the only real difference is the pen strokes.

I also like that he does doodles that are a mash up different images and symbols. The Zodiac only did this with cards, but it’s the same thinking. Having said that as a person who spends a lot of time looking at art the placement is very different. It’s like if you look at two collages done by two different artists, you can tell which is which because each artist will have a very different way of constructing the collage. One might densely pack the image and seek to join words and body parts, the other may fill the space sparsely and create geometric patterns with the cut out shapes.

 
Posted : February 25, 2019 1:17 pm
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