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CuriousCat
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Posted : February 28, 2019 1:55 am
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Posted : February 28, 2019 2:10 am
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Posted : February 28, 2019 2:10 am
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Regarding vehicles,
we found possible license plate numbers, we are trying to gather more information.
RelentlessZ can aid on this subject and I believe has already to some degree.

yes there is a lot of reading,
if you want specifics do the leg work,
it is there and I hope not to constantly give answers to every fly by
A fly by who thinks the link between the zodiac and hitchhiker murders is a fabrication of my own.

like everyone else you’ll now mingle with your words and suggest you meant something else or whatever.

Please note your own assumptions, im not being rude but don’t come shitting over here with shit.

if you want, ill delete all my comments and you can too.

You’re the ones coming here and throwing Colliver’s papers at the face of people saying "Help yourselves, dig and try to find something significant but we’re pretty sure this guy is related to Zodiac". You should have made your homework before even mentioning this guy here. Now you look dumb. Again, he is an interesting suspect, but you have a lot of work to do (about your behavior, too ^^).

I think sharing all the documents on the forum was a smart move. Who cares if we look dumb. We have a forum full of ridiculous suspects that people are quite happy to spend countless hours picking over.

The best way to evaluate these documents is to have the whole community take a gander.

I think bringing him forward as a POI was very reasonable. He had some Zodiac symbols on film boxes, he had some problems with women and the government. As far as I’m concerned that’s sufficient to present him as POI.

So far I don’t think we’ve found much and I’m not clinging to any false hope.

But we’ve spent years speculating about other suspects whom we know nothing about. People here seem to love guessing games, but when presented with actual writing samples it’s suddenly a chore.

I can’t believe the communities reaction, going over Harvey’s documents is the most fun I have ever had on this forum. Finally we have some information on POI and it’s too much trouble to go through it.

Many hands make light work. This information is now stored for posterity, through the tireless efforts of Relentless. We can pick through it at our leisure.

No ones assigned a task and set a deadline.

In the words of Cosmo Kramer "Nobody put a gun to your head".

 
Posted : February 28, 2019 2:26 am
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Posted : February 28, 2019 2:35 am
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Posted : February 28, 2019 2:35 am
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Posted : February 28, 2019 2:36 am
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Posted : February 28, 2019 2:36 am
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Regarding vehicles,
we found possible license plate numbers, we are trying to gather more information.
RelentlessZ can aid on this subject and I believe has already to some degree.

yes there is a lot of reading,
if you want specifics do the leg work,
it is there and I hope not to constantly give answers to every fly by
A fly by who thinks the link between the zodiac and hitchhiker murders is a fabrication of my own.

like everyone else you’ll now mingle with your words and suggest you meant something else or whatever.

Please note your own assumptions, im not being rude but don’t come shitting over here with shit.

if you want, ill delete all my comments and you can too.

You’re the ones coming here and throwing Colliver’s papers at the face of people saying "Help yourselves, dig and try to find something significant but we’re pretty sure this guy is related to Zodiac". You should have made your homework before even mentioning this guy here. Now you look dumb. Again, he is an interesting suspect, but you have a lot of work to do (about your behavior, too ^^).

I think sharing all the documents on the forum was a smart move. Who cares if we look dumb. We have a forum full of ridiculous suspects that people are quite happy to spend countless hours picking over.

The best way to evaluate these documents is to have the whole community take a gander.

I think bringing him forward as a POI was very reasonable. He had some Zodiac symbols on film boxes, he had some problems with women and the government. As far as I’m concerned that’s sufficient to present him as POI.

So far I don’t think we’ve found much and I’m not clinging to any false hope.

But we’ve spent years speculating about other suspects whom we know nothing about. People here seem to love guessing games, but when presented with actual writing samples it’s suddenly a chore.

I can’t believe the communities reaction, going over Harvey’s documents is the most fun I have ever had on this forum. Finally we have some information on POI and it’s too much trouble to go through it.

Many hands make light work. This information is now stored for posterity, through the tireless efforts of Relentless. We can pick through it at our leisure.

No ones assigned a task and set a deadline.

In the words of Cosmo Kramer "Nobody put a gun to your head".

I sincerely appreciate your acknowledgement and praise. I am relieved someone else is enjoying these documents. He did "something" sinister and it comes out subtly in these pages and I really hope we all can figure out which crimes he was connected to. Even if they weren’t the zodiac killer crimes. He did something. Thank you replaceablehead.

 
Posted : February 28, 2019 2:45 am
CuriousCat
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I think sharing all the documents on the forum was a smart move. Who cares if we look dumb. We have a forum full of ridiculous suspects that people are quite happy to spend countless hours picking over.

The best way to evaluate these documents is to have the whole community take a gander.

I think bringing him forward as a POI was very reasonable. He had some Zodiac symbols on film boxes, he had some problems with women and the government. As far as I’m concerned that’s sufficient to present him as POI.

So far I don’t think we’ve found much and I’m not clinging to any false hope.

But we’ve spent years speculating about other suspects whom we know nothing about. People here seem to love guessing games, but when presented with actual writing samples it’s suddenly a chore.

I can’t believe the communities reaction, going over Harvey’s documents is the most fun I have ever had on this forum. Finally we have some information on POI and it’s too much trouble to go through it.

Many hands make light work. This information is now stored for posterity, through the tireless efforts of Relentless. We can pick through it at our leisure.

No ones assigned a task and set a deadline.

In the words of Cosmo Kramer "Nobody put a gun to your head".

Agreed, it’s easy to avoid looking at these threads, no one is being forced. I’m doing what I hate the most and find useless, looking through someone’s writings etc. for a sqiggly line or words that might look like Zodiac.

I’m doing it because I thought about this guy, "well, ok, he’s worth a look", plus I told simplicity and relentless I’d try to help. I don’t think this guy was the Zodiac, I’m just not finding anything that makes me think he was. I do think he was strange with a lot of rather twisted and potentially violent thoughts in his head. Like you yourself said if he was the Zodiac I think we’d see some familiar wording in the massive amounts of files he had.

However, it’s early yet, I’m barely over 1/3 of a way through and there are a few things that might could be seen as Zodiac like. I figure once it’s all gone over, plus if we see what’s on those films, we’ll be able to review all of it and form some sort of consensus on this guy and his viability as a suspect in Zodiac or possibly other crimes.

 
Posted : February 28, 2019 2:48 am
relentlessz
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Regarding vehicles,
we found possible license plate numbers, we are trying to gather more information.
RelentlessZ can aid on this subject and I believe has already to some degree.

yes there is a lot of reading,
if you want specifics do the leg work,
it is there and I hope not to constantly give answers to every fly by
A fly by who thinks the link between the zodiac and hitchhiker murders is a fabrication of my own.

like everyone else you’ll now mingle with your words and suggest you meant something else or whatever.

Please note your own assumptions, im not being rude but don’t come shitting over here with shit.

if you want, ill delete all my comments and you can too.

You’re the ones coming here and throwing Colliver’s papers at the face of people saying "Help yourselves, dig and try to find something significant but we’re pretty sure this guy is related to Zodiac". You should have made your homework before even mentioning this guy here. Now you look dumb. Again, he is an interesting suspect, but you have a lot of work to do (about your behavior, too ^^).

WE look dumb? I beg your pardon? I sure hope anyone else with anything they feel might be connected to the zodiac case reads this thread first before putting themselves through this meat grinder.

 
Posted : February 28, 2019 2:52 am
CuriousCat
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He did "something" sinister and it comes out subtly in these pages and I really hope we all can figure out which crimes he was connected to. Even if they weren’t the zodiac killer crimes. He did something.

Looks like we were posting at the same time.

I believe you could be right about him possibly being connected to crimes but not the Zodiac. He had a lot of anger towards women and it seems he didn’t have much to do other than sit around and stew in that anger.

 
Posted : February 28, 2019 2:52 am
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I’ll repeat myself once again: I’ve been through a few dozens of pages written by this guy, and all I see is a harmless troubled mind. If he was the Zodiac, there HAS to be some really significant pieces of evidence in all this mess, but for now, I can’t see none.

Good luck to you, guys.

 
Posted : February 28, 2019 3:03 am
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I honestly don’t think I’ll have clue for several more weeks. It’s too easy to rush through it.

Having said that I’m concerned at the absence of stronger evidence. I can’t help but feel that if the Zodiac left a mess like this behind he probably wasn’t about to sort through it to remove all the newspaper clippings and cipher practice. Zodiac followed his own media, he would likely have kept notes on his crimes. Could he have kept them separate? Yes, but this seems like such a mess of papers. Imagine having to sort through all this and carefully remove all the Gilbert and Sullivan lyrics, too much hassle even if ones freedom depended on it.

 
Posted : February 28, 2019 4:42 am
relentlessz
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These are just the docs I have. There was so much more that I didn’t secure. He eludes to a "crank letter file" where he tells his mother to file a letter he wrote in to. I don’t have that file so I know for a fact that there was a lot more to see. This is just what I have.

Humans are capable of anything. He could very easily decide to never write the symbol again or only write "those symbols" on "that" paper and destroy all workings of any key to it. Humans can do anything they want. To say someone wouldnt be able to mix up their works is silly and perhaps stuck in a antiquated way of thinking. No offense. Please.

I’m not asking for anyone to make up anything to connect him. I simply only wanted help looking at what I do have. I question myself when you all come up with good questions I can’t answer. But that is exactly why I am here, I too have those same questions. There’s enough to be very suspicious of him. But no smoking gun. There must be a way to connect all dots. And I think the people here have the ability to do just that. If its him or not. Doesn’t matter. Just a conclusion at all would be great. If we could solve the biggest murder mystery of all time, that would be really exciting. That’s all I hope for.

Everyone’s input is wanted and needed.

 
Posted : February 28, 2019 5:05 am
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