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Ok, so I’m going to give this another try. 

 

Has Herb Caen really been looked at with a fresh eye? Was Bill Cosby seriously looked at?

 

Herb Caen lived and worked in SF, at the Chronicle. He was a media-savvy narcissist-type personality who loved having his name in the paper. 

He owned a Black OMEGA Constellation wristwatch, linking with the Omega Symbol in the letter & linking with the angular velocity method in the Mt. Diablo Letter.

 

He worked every day EXCEPT Saturday…

He grew up going to the Lake Tahoe area as a kid…

 

We know Zodiac was a character personality with not much fear of being caught, which could mean the suspect wore a full-on disguise to hide his identity, including hiding his face with some sort of mask as cited in the Charlie Chan at Treasure Island Film.

 

Herb Caen wrote columns about Treasure Island.

 

Herb Caen was known to love Role Playing as different characters in his newspaper column. Taking on a different persona was nothing new to this man.

 

Just because he was a well-known “Celebrity” in his day DOES not exclude him from criminal activity. In fact, this would even help him get away with a crime, as ironic as it sounds…

 

He was born in Sacramento and knew the area surrounding it. He was in the Air Force for four years and had Photo/Map Recon experience.

 

He owned four Royal Typewriters including the exact model Police identified… He used blue ink to write with.

 

Herb + C is found in the cipher.

 

It may be a long shot, but perhaps someone else can find something else.

 

If not, that’s ok. It was worth a shot, 😉

 

Thanks,

 

— Alonzo.

 

 

 

 
Posted : July 27, 2021 12:46 am
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Herb Caen loved Attending SF Opera. A lot of the odd words Zodiac used you can find in Herb Caen’s Newspaper columns by using “Search” “Find”. 

 
Posted : July 27, 2021 12:49 am
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Caen’s Typewriter.

 
Posted : July 27, 2021 12:58 am
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Was this really worth a reboot?

 
Posted : July 27, 2021 12:59 am
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Posted by: @tomvoigt

Was this really worth a reboot?

Yea, why not? Please let me know when you solve the case, Tom.

 

Otherwise, be open to it.

 

Thanks.

 
Posted : July 27, 2021 1:01 am
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Posted by: @tomvoigt

Was this really worth a reboot?

Yea, why not? Please let me know when you solve the case, Tom.

 

Otherwise, be open to it.

 

Thanks.

Be open to silly suggestions? No thanks.

PS:

For all we know the case has been solved for decades. What can actually prove it, has been — and still is — lacking.

 
Posted : July 27, 2021 1:06 am
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@tomvoigt Yea, and For ALL WE KNOW it was HERB CAEN?

 

Nice Logic pal, please get out of my thread, no one invited you here. You look dumb.

 

Herb Caen is just about as good of a suspect as YOU right now (With your logic).

Thanks.

 
Posted : July 27, 2021 1:11 am
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@tomvoigt Yea, and For ALL WE KNOW it was HERB CAEN?

No, for all we know it’s one of the good suspects and not a short, old, fat, jewish guy whom literally everyone in San Francisco Bay Area would have recognized.

 
Posted : July 27, 2021 1:16 am
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@tomvoigt Yea, and For ALL WE KNOW it was HERB CAEN?

No, for all we know it’s one of the good suspects and not a short, old, fat, jewish guy whom literally everyone in San Francisco Bay Area would have recognized.

Good suspects, pretty sure none of the “good” suspects are really that GOOD at all. Hence the case is still being open and investigated.

 

The varying descriptions of the Zodiac lead some to believe that more than one person was involved in the crimes, yet these discrepancies are common occurrences in most investigations. Eyewitnesses are often mistaken in their attempts to accurately recall the facial features, hair color, height, weight, clothing and other aspects of a suspect’s appearances, producing conflicting descriptions of the same individual. In some instances, eyewitnesses and victims of crime have positively identified an individual as the perpetrator of a crime only to later discover that they were wrong when the real culprit was identified. Other witnesses have accurately identified the correct suspect.

No one saw the shooter on Lake Herman Road so no description exists. Michael Mageau described the suspect at the Blue Rock Springs Park shooting as a “WMA, short, possible 5’8”, was real heavy set, beefy build… not blubbery fat, but real beefy, possibly 195 to 200 [lbs] or maybe even larger… short curly hair, light brown almost blond… with a large face.

Bryan Hartnell stated that the attacker had brown hair and when asked to explain he said, “‘Cause I saw it from where the goggles fit… I looked so closely to find out. And when he turned you know they kind of flittered… I could see his hair. It looked kinda greasy.” Bryan told me, “I remember when I was first talked to, I mean, I had the guy being a walrus, you know… He had one of those Sears-type of jackets, you know, those can be either lined or unlined, and if it’s lined, a person could be thin, if it’s unlined the person would be heavy… I mean, he’s not obese.

Witnesses at the Stine scene provided this description: “White Male Adult, in his early forties, 5’8″, heavy build, reddish-blond ‘crew cut’ hair, wearing eyeglasses, dark brown trousers, dark (navy blue or black) ‘Parka’ jacket, dark shoes.” This description was subsequently adjusted for the SFPD composite sketch which published this description: WMA 35-45 years old, 5’8″ Reddish brown hair, Crewcut, Heavy Rim Glasses, Navy blue or black jacket.

Officer Don Fouke offered variations of his descriptions, including:

1969: “The suspect that was observed by officer Fouke was a WMA 35-45 Yrs about five-foot, ten inches, 180-200 pounds. Medium heavy build- Barrel chested- Medium complexion- Light-colored hair possibly greying in rear (May have been lighting that caused this effect.) Crew cut- wearing glasses- Dressed in dark blue waist length zipper type jacket (Navy or royal blue) Elastic cuffs and waist band zipped part way up. Brown wool pants pleated type baggy in rear (Rust brown) May have been wearing low cut shoes. Subject at no time appeared to be in a hurry walking with a shuffling lope, Slightly bent forward. The subject’s general appearance- Welsh ancestry.”

1989: “The individual I saw that night was a white male adult, approximately 35-45 years of age, five feet ten inches tall, 180-210 pounds.”

The suspect at the Stine scene was said to have brown or blond hair, possibly with a red tint. A small reddish brown hair was discovered behind a stamp used by the Zodiac, indicating that this description may be accurate.

 
Posted : July 27, 2021 1:21 am
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@tomvoigt Yea, and For ALL WE KNOW it was HERB CAEN?

No, for all we know it’s one of the good suspects and not a short, old, fat, jewish guy whom literally everyone in San Francisco Bay Area would have recognized.

Good suspects, pretty sure none of the “good” suspects are really that GOOD at all. Hence the case is still being open and investigated.

The case is open because the evidence needed to close the case (a DNA match) hasn’t happened due to the fact that Zodiac’s DNA is missing. It has NOTHING to do with the fact that the world’s dumbest suspect hasn’t yet been brought forward.

 
Posted : July 27, 2021 1:28 am
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@tomvoigt Yea, and For ALL WE KNOW it was HERB CAEN?

No, for all we know it’s one of the good suspects and not a short, old, fat, jewish guy whom literally everyone in San Francisco Bay Area would have recognized.

Good suspects, pretty sure none of the “good” suspects are really that GOOD at all. Hence the case is still being open and investigated.

The case is open because the evidence needed to close the case (a DNA match) hasn’t happened due to the fact that Zodiac’s DNA is missing. It has NOTHING to do with the fact that the world’s dumbest suspect hasn’t yet been brought forward.

Yes, but all of the GOOD suspect’s DNA has been compared with no matching results? Are you that stupid? 

There are links to Herb Caen, but with your reading ability, I doubt you can see one — if ANY.

 

Stop posting in my thread.

 
Posted : July 27, 2021 1:32 am
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Posted by: @alonzo
Posted by: @tomvoigt
Posted by: @alonzo
Posted by: @tomvoigt
Posted by: @alonzo

@tomvoigt Yea, and For ALL WE KNOW it was HERB CAEN?

No, for all we know it’s one of the good suspects and not a short, old, fat, jewish guy whom literally everyone in San Francisco Bay Area would have recognized.

Good suspects, pretty sure none of the “good” suspects are really that GOOD at all. Hence the case is still being open and investigated.

The case is open because the evidence needed to close the case (a DNA match) hasn’t happened due to the fact that Zodiac’s DNA is missing. It has NOTHING to do with the fact that the world’s dumbest suspect hasn’t yet been brought forward.

Yes, but all of the GOOD suspect’s DNA has been compared with no matching results? Are you that stupid? 

Compared to what? There is no viable Zodiac DNA. One of us is definitely stupid, I do agree with that.

 

 
Posted : July 27, 2021 1:44 am
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Posted by: @tomvoigt
Posted by: @alonzo
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Posted by: @alonzo
Posted by: @tomvoigt
Posted by: @alonzo

@tomvoigt Yea, and For ALL WE KNOW it was HERB CAEN?

No, for all we know it’s one of the good suspects and not a short, old, fat, jewish guy whom literally everyone in San Francisco Bay Area would have recognized.

Good suspects, pretty sure none of the “good” suspects are really that GOOD at all. Hence the case is still being open and investigated.

The case is open because the evidence needed to close the case (a DNA match) hasn’t happened due to the fact that Zodiac’s DNA is missing. It has NOTHING to do with the fact that the world’s dumbest suspect hasn’t yet been brought forward.

Yes, but all of the GOOD suspect’s DNA has been compared with no matching results? Are you that stupid? 

Compared to what? There is no viable Zodiac DNA. One of us is definitely stupid, I do agree with that.

 

Cite your sources on that claim? How do you know that for a fact?

 

It’s almost comical how insecure you are about me posting a long shot theory, If you don’t like it I don’t care.

 

Stop posting in my thread, you look like a child at this point.

 

 
Posted : July 27, 2021 1:49 am
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Still posting here.

 
Posted : July 27, 2021 2:25 am
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Posted by: @alonzo

@tomvoigt Yea, and For ALL WE KNOW it was HERB CAEN?

 

Nice Logic pal, please get out of my thread, no one invited you here. You look dumb.

 

Herb Caen is just about as good of a suspect as YOU right now (With your logic).

Thanks.

This isn’t your thread. When you post a thread it is open for anyone to comment. That said, please make sure your comments are productive, informative, and not insulting. 

“Murder will out, this my conclusion.”
– Geoffrey Chaucer

 
Posted : July 27, 2021 5:13 am
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