On the contrary, cars are highly relevant when it comes to the Zodiac killer, as he makes mentions of them all the time in his letters (as well as races) and all of his crimes revolve around cars.
Definately agree. But simplicity is right too when considering the cars seen around crime scenes. No way of really knowing what car the Zodiac actually had if any really.
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On the contrary, cars are highly relevant when it comes to the Zodiac killer, as he makes mentions of them all the time in his letters (as well as races) and all of his crimes revolve around cars.
You asked if he owned multiple cars, the on the contrary is a bit slanted.
Right, my bad. Let me reformulate my question, then. Did that Colliver character particularly like cars/work around cars? Was it one of his favorite topics of conversation?
On the contrary, cars are highly relevant when it comes to the Zodiac killer, as he makes mentions of them all the time in his letters (as well as races) and all of his crimes revolve around cars.
You asked if he owned multiple cars, the on the contrary is a bit slanted.
Right, my bad. Let me reformulate my question, then. Did that Colliver character particularly like cars/work around cars? Was it one of his favorite topics of conversation?
I know he drove a sunbeam in 1969. And a little red datsun pickup truck in the early 80’s. He was constantly at odds with the dmv for taking away his driving privileges due to his failing eyesight. At one point it looked as if he was having to retake his eye tests yearly in order to keep his license. In the documents I have, he seems to have had many other cars but doesnt talk about what kind.
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I do have a folder with records he kept for repairs on his cars and letters he sent to dealerships and mechanics that he dealt with where he was dissatisfied with their service or products. Let me know if you’d like me to link it?
Well, this is "your" POI, so it’s yours to compare the cars seen on Zodiac murder scenes to the ones your POI you know drove according to the documents you’re citing.
Well, this is "your" POI, so it’s yours to compare the cars seen on Zodiac murder scenes to the ones your POI you know drove according to the documents you’re citing.
I’ve only known of the descriptions given by mageau and hartnell and I’ve compared their descriptions to what Mr. Colliver drove at the time.
Mr. Colliver drove a Sunbeam. The other cars in these pictures are the ones the witnesses described.
Here’s a photo of Mr. Colliver as a younger man.
Damn! He sure looked like Robert Pollard! 
Damn! He sure looked like Robert Pollard!
I had to google him. I guess you could say that. Maybe the eyes. Haha
Here he is a little later in life with his Quan Yin.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/c85u7o0gs5upj … d.jpg?dl=0
Here’s a photo of Mr. Colliver as a younger man.
He definitely has the wavy brown hair described by witnesses.
Damn! He sure looked like Robert Pollard!
I had to google him. I guess you could say that. Maybe the eyes. Haha
Here he is a little later in life with his Quan Yin.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/c85u7o0gs5upj … d.jpg?dl=0
I thought the best US rock singer/songwriter in History was better known than that!
Yes, another very solid suspect, I’m feeling dizzy 
Where was that message from his wife?
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Be still my beating heart, that is monologue worthy of a gothic romance. What a woman. My goodness.
I think it’s pretty clear her references to murder is to do with her miscarriage and his contribution to their sons suicide, I think she makes that rather plain and I think it’s a little conspiratorial to read anything else into it. Also good luck convincing this woman not to turn you in if she new something.
Her writing style though, notice the way Nancy is able to introduce, elucidate and conclude a single topic before moving to the next. She can complete a thought. Harvey on the other hand, throughout all of this writing, never complete’s a thought. This is odd, sure some of it is intentional, they’re marginal notes to himself, little mussing’s scribbled down. But it’s more than that, his most formal writing shows the same problem, as soon as he introduces a thought that thought leads off on another thought which splinters into two more thoughts. I’ve noticed a tendency towards mind mapping writing styles in people suffering from bipolar, I know lot’s of people draw mind maps. But if you’re suffering from a flight of idea’s you develop ways of coping and one of the ways that people often cope is by adapting their writing style to this kind of mind mapping.
I don’t normally say this type of thing so readily, but based on description of his behavior, refusal to get out of bed, coupled with his writing, manic and sexualised, his magical thinking, I would say there is a very high probability he had bipolar. I really think he did, it’s very rare to get so much good detailed information about a person, any person.
I don’t like him as Z though, those film canisters fall into the "to good to be true" category. That’s an item you would need chain of custody on, I mean a lot of people are going to think maybe someone slapped a few Z symbols on them to seal the deal. I don’t think that, but I’m not as fussy as most people when it comes to chain of custody.
I think he’s more mentally developed than Z, I think he’s more mature, I also don’t think that his manic writing style could be restrained, unless he was Z only when he was depressed, then maybe.
He still has greater fluency than Z. Z, whoever he was I’m sure was intelligent after a fashion, but he clearly had some kind of handicap, and I don’t think it’s all subterfuge, he wasn’t as fluent as someone with his vocabulary should have been, just as Harvey is not as coherent as his intelligence suggests he should be.
These are great writing samples though and I think everyone can benefit from reading them, it’s a great insight into writing styles of eccentric, or mentally odd people.
I do think that he’s still one of the best suspects, I like a lot of the evidence. There’s a lot of it, he’s in the right location, he has plausibility, he appears to suffer from an illness that could cause a loss of inhibitions, in short I think this guy needs his own thread.
On the contrary, cars are highly relevant when it comes to the Zodiac killer, as he makes mentions of them all the time in his letters (as well as races) and all of his crimes revolve around cars.
You asked if he owned multiple cars, the on the contrary is a bit slanted.
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The car things a little murky though. I do think Z had a passing interest in them, I think he liked to take long drives to fantasise and hunt. Having said that it’s not clear what car Z drove. When it comes to POI I’m usually satisfied knowing they could drive. However it sounds like given his health problems Mr. Colliver may not have been doing much driving at the time. How bad was his eyesight?
On the contrary, cars are highly relevant when it comes to the Zodiac killer, as he makes mentions of them all the time in his letters (as well as races) and all of his crimes revolve around cars.
You asked if he owned multiple cars, the on the contrary is a bit slanted.
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The car things a little murky though. I do think Z had a passing interest in them, I think he liked to take long drives to fantasise and hunt. Having said that it’s not clear what car Z drove. When it comes to POI I’m usually satisfied knowing they could drive. However it sounds like given his health problems Mr. Colliver may not have been doing much driving at the time. How bad was his eyesight?
He didn’t stop driving completely until the 90’s.
I think before I get into explaining his eyesight issues, I’ll start a new thread. The eyesight issue is a whole can of worms in itself.
This needs it’s own thread. I take it Mr. Colliver is a new POI to this website? I ask because it’s so hard to keep track.
I suppose there are some more basic questions, shoes, height, strange collection of hoods? Cars has already been asked.
I would suggest to everyone to hold their thoughts.
Replaceable you correctly read Harvey according to what you have seen so far , but there is much more and so i suggest to hold on.
If you get to see what i have seen then you are in for a treat. His writings beautifully displays the progression of his various mental states over many years with his "downfall" in 68 69 and the subsequent rise up from the doldrums in the years that follow.
Somehow it’s one of the greatest Reads i have ever experienced.
I say it again, this will leave the reader incapable of separating Zodiac and Harvey as two separate individuals.
Yes, dyslexia is probably my first undiagnosed language.
