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Israelite Wolfman
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Can anyone who’s American or with acsess to the San Francisco State College check this theory out? I want to check on this possible lead.

That’s my poi: viewtopic.php?f=96&t=4009

 
Posted : April 26, 2019 8:15 pm
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It was shown that his misspelled words were actually portmanteau words.

By whom? Source?

http://mk-zodiac.com/game.html

that is really interesting. I had considered that zodiac was a dunce and couldn’t understand why people were impressed by his intellect.

 
Posted : October 8, 2020 10:58 pm
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What about the radians? What about the Halloween card, for example?

The knowing of radians and referring to directions at times of describing his murders and victims’ positions show that he was familliar with directions in general and perhaps even with navigating, not necessarily from the military (as we campers/travellers know of, today), but also from a possible civilian occupation perspective; Like: working as a merchant mariner, who needs to know those basics of handling directions at the sea (as suggested by Robert Tarbox and that guy who was with David Faraday in the scouts who claimed that there was a rumor shortly after David was murdered that his killer was a weird Merchant Mariner from Benicia), I wouldn’t say he was an airplane pilot – but they’re also people who know how to work with those radians and do not necessarily been to the army.

I had thought that he was from Benicia since the police had said not many people knew that back road but locals knew it was a lovers lane local. There is a video of an interview of someone who believes they had a close encounter the same night as the first killing. He said it was a small town and everyone knew everyone’s car and he didn’t recognise the car. I wondered if it was someone who had gone to school in Benicia and found someone in the tennis team of the 1961 year book that could pass for the later image.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UHSHa0vVL2I
and
https://www.classmates.com/siteui/yearb … 03?page=67

If the lady picked up with her baby is to be believed, she asked him what work he did. He said he would be away for 2 weeks and then be back and he would drive around at night. I wondered what job would take someone away for 2 weeks at a time and it occurred to me that it could be someone working on an offshore oil rig or a pilot or perhaps as you state merchant mariner.

 
Posted : October 8, 2020 11:07 pm
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There was book, or something on the front seat in the crime scene photos, apparently taken in situ. They’re around the internet somewhere. That’s what finally satisfied me. In fact, I’m pretty sure the info is out there, it’s just been a while, but I think the matter is settled if you dig around enough. Now I’m starting rumors :D but I’m sure someone will chime in if my memory has failed me.

 
Posted : October 9, 2020 5:02 am
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Hi

I’m still confused after many years what evidence is there that Z sat in the front seat to the exclusion of the back seat.

It makes no sense to me at all.

Can we please keep it to evidence and not opinion or what people think is likely?

I think the Stine Killing is maybe the crime that suffers from the most mythologizing and the least rigorous study in regards to the actual evidence

 
Posted : October 14, 2020 6:47 pm
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I’m still confused after many years what evidence is there that Z sat in the front seat to the exclusion of the back seat.

*Nobody ever saw Zodiac in the back of the cab — he was only seen in the front
*Paul Stine’s sister was told by Inspector Armstrong that evidence indicated Zodiac rode in front
*The complete lack of blood spatter in the below photo, indicating it landed on Zodiac and left with him

 
Posted : October 14, 2020 9:13 pm
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He was seen in the front of the cab after the murder, not during the drive

If Armstrong’s account is not first hand or in a police report it’s hearsay

I’m not a blood spatter analyst and I don’t know anyone on this board who is.

The photo only shows a very limited portion and angle of the cab.
I’ve read the autopsy and I do not believe it points to a shot coming from someone seated next to him.

 
Posted : October 14, 2020 10:24 pm
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Just to be specific – the gunshot entry was towards the rear, upper, back of the right ear. If I was to draw the straightest line to how that happened, Stine is in the front seat, the assailant draws with his right hand, from his right side, across his own body, pointing to the left into Stine’s head. That is an extremely natural motion. I concede no one saw this, but I think it’s the most likely.

 
Posted : October 14, 2020 11:01 pm
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Stine was shot in the front of his right ear.

The info from Carol Stine came from her, to me and about 50 others.

 
Posted : October 15, 2020 12:07 am
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The trajectory of the weapon, based upon Stine’s autopsy, would suggest an angle of the bullet of approximately 4 or 5 o’clock. This would indicate someone sitting in the backseat behind the passenger seat and reaching across his body with the gun.

However, we also do not know in what position Stine’s head was when the trigger was pulled.

So, there’s evidence suggesting the killer firing the weapon from the back and the front seat. I’m not sure we will ever really know.

“Murder will out, this my conclusion.”
– Geoffrey Chaucer

 
Posted : October 15, 2020 2:57 am
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One thing I have always found odd about the Stine shooting, there is an entry wound, but no exit wound. A 9mm at that close range should easily be a through and through shot. Makes me think Zodiac used a low grain bullet, knowing there would be less sound, and less mess. I have to think, he was someone who really knew guns, probably a self loader too.

 
Posted : October 15, 2020 5:03 am
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There is a video online of a taxi cab driver being shot in the head by a robber who is sitting directly behind the cabbie. It’s an actual video – not faked. It is filmed from the cabbie’s dashboard cam. It’s in black and white, but it’s quite graphic and extremely disturbing. I would not view it if you are easily disturbed or triggered by those types of things.

I have seen the video, and there is no blood splatter and no apparent exit wound. There is quite a bit of blood from the nose and a bit from the mouth.

Also, the autopsy report indicates that the bullet hit the cheekbone. That might have been enough to stop the bullet from exiting, but I don’t know enough about firearms or ballistics to state definitively.

“Murder will out, this my conclusion.”
– Geoffrey Chaucer

 
Posted : October 15, 2020 8:00 am
CuriousCat
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There is a video online of a taxi cab driver being shot in the head by a robber who is sitting directly behind the cabbie. It’s an actual video – not faked. It is filmed from the cabbie’s dashboard cam. It’s in black and white, but it’s quite graphic and extremely disturbing. I would not view it if you are easily disturbed or triggered by those types of things.

I have seen the video, and there is no blood splatter and no apparent exit wound. There is quite a bit of blood from the nose and a bit from the mouth.

Also, the autopsy report indicates that the bullet hit the cheekbone. That might have been enough to stop the bullet from exiting, but I don’t know enough about firearms or ballistics to state definitively.

Well, what did that cabbie get shot with? There are a lot of videos of guys shooting a pigs head with a 9mm from 10 yards or more and they easily go through. But yeah, it could have hit a bone that stopped it, no doubt. Coupled with the fact that no one heard the shot though could indicate a lower grain load.

 
Posted : October 15, 2020 8:56 am
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Investigators at the scene were quite clear the cab had a tremendous amount of blood in it.

 
Posted : October 15, 2020 10:36 pm
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