Ill try and find my original images for it later Mike R. My feeling at the time when I spotted it was that it reminded me of a cheque or ‘check’.

EDIT: Nevermind I’ll have a fiddle with the one you just posted Mike. After dinner of course, mmmmmm starvin lol.

This is the other one I produced the first time. It highlights some other areas that might be part of the ‘stamp’ or whatever it is. Doesn’t show anything more than what we have already in this thread but I’m gonna have a look now again at the original from scratch and see what can be done. Be back soon but no promises it’ll be with anything clearer.

I doubt this is better. I’ve tried every combo under the sun so far but I don’t think it’s gonna get any better. There’s too much jpeg noise and the tonal ranges are too similar to affect any kind of meaningful separation. Anyone else pls feel free to try you might have better luck. There may be a way to make it readable but I haven’t found it yet and also it may be reversed but until we can guess as to what it might be that doesn’t help either. All I can see in it now ir "Pay HP" or "Pay AP" or Fey HP or AP or non of those lol.

Sorry it’s so dark but I had to do that to reduce the jpeg artifacts and to be sure which was the stamp and not noise.

EDIT: I’ll keep trying, there’s loads of approaches I can attempt but the quality really isn’t holding to any of them.

Now it looks like TC4 HP or FC4 HP. I am pretty sure about the HP part. The P in "HP" is very stylized.

Working hypothesis…

Mike

I’m just gonna keep firing these out, one of them might look like something. I’ll be flipping them and rotating them as well.

Is this a dollar sign? I’m just guessing crap TBH. As Mike R says – slippery slope and this image is upside down.

Here’s the PDF of the newspaper article about the card, amongst other things. Interesting is this bit near the end.

I wonder if that pertains to the faint image. The article also mentions that the ‘construct’ itself was pasted onto a "file card". I’ve just grabbed a ‘recipe’ one as an example so I wonder if they determined what type of file card it was and that is why they think it’s authentic and that what we can see is the lines from the card showing through with what ever is written on being something ‘telling’. In other words LE DO know what it says? Just a speculation.

Hi Tahoe-

I assume from your post that you have your own suspect and that the stamp on the card has been linked to him, or am I reading too much into your statement?

Mike

No, no suspect. While at first LE thought it probable it from Zodiac, they later changed their mind…so I have to wonder what led them to that determination.

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Avery report dated May 1st of 1971

http://www.zodiackiller.com/AveryReport12.html

The article also mentions that the ‘construct’ itself was pasted onto a "file card". I’ve just grabbed a ‘recipe’ one as an example so I wonder if they determined what type of file card it was and that is why they think it’s authentic and that what we can see is the lines from the card showing through with what ever is written on being something ‘telling’. In other words LE DO know what it says? Just a speculation.

I say it’s just like the Pines card which was also pasted onto a pre-stamped postcard:

Of course I think these two cut & pastes are from the same guy..just not Zodiac. Someone screwing with Paul who used as little handwriting as possible…traced and questionable at that.

Hi-

Unless the faint writing had to do with a specific identified suspect, or unless it led police at the time to the sender, whoever her or she was, I don’t know how the police could have used the writing to authenticate the card as coming from the killer, or conversely used the writing to say the card was not from the killer.

Mike

The article also mentions that the ‘construct’ itself was pasted onto a "file card". I’ve just grabbed a ‘recipe’ one as an example so I wonder if they determined what type of file card it was and that is why they think it’s authentic and that what we can see is the lines from the card showing through with what ever is written on being something ‘telling’. In other words LE DO know what it says? Just a speculation.

I say it’s just like the Pines card which was also pasted onto a pre-stamped postcard:

Of course I think these two cut & pastes are from the same guy..just not Zodiac. Someone screwing with Paul who used as little handwriting as possible…traced and questionable at that.

Very possible T, in regards the postcard part but I thought it was interesting that the newspaper article ran with it being referred to as a ‘post card’ to then take pains to qualify with language such as "it was actually" or "actually turned out to be" (I’m paraphrasing) a file card thus, as I read it, making the distinction that it wasn’t the expected and probably initially assumed post card pattern that had previously been adpoted by the sender, Zodiac or otherwise. This difference seems to have been further qualified with the inclusion of the dimensions to back that up.

I think postcard implies something with a color picture that you send when you’re on vacation (or something along those lines), as where file card would represent something more like that Lincoln card…just my take. It had nearly the same measurements – 5 1/2 x 3 1/4.

That article isn’t very accurate (the circle-cross wasn’t in blood)…so, not quite sure what to take from it. I just think those lines look the same.

Hi-

Here is a picture of the front of the card. It had a "wavy" cancellation.

Mike

Ill try and find my original images for it later Mike R. My feeling at the time when I spotted it was that it reminded me of a cheque or ‘check’.

EDIT: Nevermind I’ll have a fiddle with the one you just posted Mike. After dinner of course, mmmmmm starvin lol.

This is the other one I produced the first time. It highlights some other areas that might be part of the ‘stamp’ or whatever it is. Doesn’t show anything more than what we have already in this thread but I’m gonna have a look now again at the original from scratch and see what can be done. Be back soon but no promises it’ll be with anything clearer.

Right before the words ‘you’ll hate me’ on the card, looks like a candy cane F like z made on Hartnell’s door, maybe like a reverse image

There must not be any usable handwriting or wouldn’t Morrill have authenticated it?

Hey Trav–is this along the lines of what you were talking about…like an index card right?

http://fritzprinting.com/xcart/product. … ctid=17539

There must not be any usable handwriting or wouldn’t Morrill have authenticated it?

Hey Trav–is this along the lines of what you were talking about…like an index card right?

http://fritzprinting.com/xcart/product. … ctid=17539

Yup T. that’s what I took the article to be referring to.

(sorry to add this in two places, but I feel it relevant)

Something else just occured to me….

On July 26th, 1970, Zodiac wrote his "Little List" letter and at the end claimed 13 victims. http://www.zodiackiller.com/Mikado2.html

This "Little List" letter, from what I recall, was never published.

On October 5, 1970, we have the "FK/Crackproof" card with 13 on it.

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Very much NOT like Zodiac, imo. He wanted to threaten by INCREASING his count, yet here, months later he still chose number "13"??

The last PUBLISHED account was "12" and I believe the sender of the FK/Crackproof continued on with "13", not realizing Zodiac had already claimed "13" back in July.

thx seagull