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Billard balls, crooked cues and twisted shoes

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‘And all billiard players I shall have them play in a darkened dungen cell with crooked cues + twisted shoes.’

Found out today that this is a reference to another musical/theatre: There is a play called ‘HERE’s A HOW DEE DOO!’, which is also called ‘Twisted cues and elliptical balls’. You can imagine how surprised I was when I read that it is related to Gilbert & Sullivan (Mikado..). There even was a ‘Paul Knight’ featuring it, which finally left me stunning. Securing this theory is that Z had specifically referred ‘billiard players’.

https://archive.org/stream/bodypolitic1 … o_djvu.txt
(search for ‘cues’)

It is possible that ‘our’ Paul Knight, classmate of CJB, was involved in that play (you can play chess with me..my name is written on the bottom lid of a scotch tape). Finally this could be our guy..or if not (as it is from Toronto) it at least shows at which Theatre Z could have been involved at (showing both, ‘Mikado’ and ‘Twisted cues and elliptical balls’).

https://library.osu.edu/finding-aids/ea … RI.SGS.xml
(search for ‘twisted cues’..there is a ‘program’ described regarding the play)

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Posted : October 29, 2016 1:05 am
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Paul Knight featured on BBC 2 radio on July 29th 1982 ; http://genome.ch.bbc.co.uk/fe22ab8a605c … 3c09b87391
Here’s a How Dee Doo!
An affectionate look at the lives and music of Gilbert and Sullivan In two parts – With Mr John Judd as Mr Alfred Kettle and Almost Everyone Else and Mr Paul Knight as the Entire Orchestra, Corps de Ballet and Empress of India
2: Twisted Cue and Elliptical Balls
Adapted for radio from the original stage production by MARTIN FISHER and JOHN JUDD
Producer MARTIN FISHER
Contributors

Unknown: Mr John Judd
Unknown: Mr Alfred Kettle
Unknown: Mr Paul Knight
Production By: Martin Fisher
Production By: John Judd
Producer: Martin Fisher
And in John Judd’s plays ; Bunter- Music by Paul Knight; lyrics And book by John Judd. Based on characters created by Frank Richard in 1981.First produced at the Northcott Theatre.

This guy may be different from the classmate of Cheri Jo Bates however, he may be of British origin.
http://www.hiddenpearl.co.uk/turnbackclock11cast.html

 
Posted : October 29, 2016 11:23 am
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Which could be Welsh..

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Posted : October 29, 2016 7:17 pm
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I feel I am missing something here. The earliest date I’ve seen so far is 1981. This is somewhere around 20 years after Zodiac. Paul Knight didn’t write the book or the plays. So how is Paul Knight the student, possible Zodiac killer (who wrote of crooked cues and twisted shoes), tied to a book and play he didn’t write? I would think that if this Paul Knight was originator of the quote then he would have had some hand in the writing of later years. I would expect to see his name instead of Frank Richard.

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Posted : October 29, 2016 7:21 pm
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‘Featuring Paul Knight’ doesn’t tell a lot. However, searching for twisted cues leading to both, g&s (titwillo..) and billiard players (as mentioned by Z) shows that Z not only had known about the Mikado but also about this specific phrase. If that play (and Mikado) has been showed somewhere in CA, any alternative theatre or something, Z had been there (Lamplighters?). It moreless shows that Z’s ties to g&s were closer than we had known so far. One recitation might be accidential, two is rather a proof that he was involved somehow.

It’d be interesting to know if this Paul was in the Bay area..and if he was the Paul from Riverside. Pinterest came up with a comic style poster (couldn’t load it) regarding the play. Z might have been artist (1964 yearbook Z sign..). Asking other people involved could lead to a solution of this case, if possible at all.

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Posted : October 29, 2016 8:55 pm
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This could be the Paul Knight who had featured the music at ‘Here’s a How Dee Doo!’ (twisted cues..):

https://mobile.facebook.com/gregantonmu … &source=44

It should be mentioned that some of the band members were connected to the Greatful Dead, too (some homicides in the surrounding of their community..). They played at the Great American Music Hall, which is only one block away from Geary Street.

Anybody wants to ask him for an autograph?

Not sure if we talk about this one..could be a dead end..the coincidence of G&S stuff with a Paul Knight, however, puts some doubt on it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Nn0sUpWWfI

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Posted : November 3, 2016 9:46 pm
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