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Joyce Walker – Manhattan Beach, CA 1964

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Posted : February 3, 2021 2:50 am
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The limp was something that he could have faked and used at his convenience.

What limp exactly? The one nobody noticed until elderly Fouke mentioned a "semi limp" decades letter?

The suspect in the Joyce Walker murder was described as walking with a limp.

At least two people described Zodiac having an unusual walk. That there was something different about the way he walked, different enough that they remembered it and commented on it.

Officer Fouke in 1969 said the man he saw at the Stine crime scene walked with a "shuffling lope". Years later he elaborated on it, describing it as a "lumbering gait…a semi-limp".

A girl at Lake Berryessa said that a man watching her and her friends, who may have been the Zodiac, ‘did not exactly have a limp’. But she observed he "favored one leg over the other". "Favoring one leg over the other" is a good description of a limp.

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Posted : February 3, 2021 3:07 am
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Judith Hakari suspect

Joyce Walker Murder Suspect Sketch………………….Judith Hakari Murder Suspect Sketch

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Posted : February 3, 2021 3:23 am
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So you’re using one of the sunbathers who the odds favor didn’t even see the real Zodiac, and who never mentioned such a detail to the police, but decades later allegedly told that to an author known for publishing untruths and who had a pet suspect with diabetes and thus limped.

And you’re also using the old version of Officer Fouke, who never made a "limp" comment until he was elderly and coming up with all kinds of nonsense, such as Zodiac entering a private residence.

Just to be clear.

 
Posted : February 3, 2021 3:31 am
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Also, the doctors son at LB described the man he saw as clumsy or not smooth or something along those lines.

 
Posted : February 3, 2021 3:36 am
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Also, the doctors son at LB described the man he saw as clumsy or not smooth or something along those lines.

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Posted : February 3, 2021 3:40 am
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Also, the doctors son at LB described the man he saw as clumsy or not smooth or something along those lines.

No.

 
Posted : February 3, 2021 3:40 am
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The shooting of Stuart Maher (a tax man) on nob hill, a witness who watched the whole thing unfold said the suspect shot the victim and “waddled like a duck” quickly leaving the scene, this suspect sounds also like he had a walking impediment as in the Joyce Walker case

 
Posted : February 3, 2021 3:51 am
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All of this because of of what elderly Fouke said. Amazing.

 
Posted : February 3, 2021 3:59 am
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Judith Hakari suspect

www.zodiachalloweencard.com has a 400 paged book for free containing the super solution with an overarching explanation of the cards and more.

 
Posted : February 3, 2021 4:26 am
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F!

I didn’t realize that Mare Island was a submarine shipyard!

I haven’t been able to find as many direct links between STL/TRW and the Navy. The AF ties are very clear. The Navy is more sporadic.

But they did build some torpedos. And they produced a computer that could fit in a submarine. And that computer linked to satellites to find the ship location.

OK, I’m intrigued.

 
Posted : February 6, 2021 8:07 pm
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And you’re also using the old version of Officer Fouke, who never made a "limp" comment until he was elderly and coming up with all kinds of nonsense, such as Zodiac entering a private residence.

I’m not sure why Fouke’s statements should be treated as with quite this degree of critique. Many years later Fouke mentioned a shuffling gate. He didn’t say he saw a man with an eye patch and a wooden leg, as I’m sure members would like to imagine. Fouke was really quite frugal with this choice of words, he stopped short of speculation about the nature of the shuffle and gives at least the superficial impression of credibility. I admit it’s a hell of a revelation to just come out with, but some people really don’t volunteer much. I think it should at least be considered.

 
Posted : February 9, 2021 5:40 pm
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And you’re also using the old version of Officer Fouke, who never made a "limp" comment until he was elderly and coming up with all kinds of nonsense, such as Zodiac entering a private residence.

I’m not sure why Fouke’s statements should be treated as with quite this degree of critique. Many years later Fouke mentioned a shuffling gate. He didn’t say he saw a man with an eye patch and a wooden leg, as I’m sure members would like to imagine. Fouke was really quite frugal with this choice of words, he stopped short of speculation about the nature of the shuffle and gives at least the superficial impression of credibility. I admit it’s a hell of a revelation to just come out with, but some people really don’t volunteer much. I think it should at least be considered.

have to agree with this post, just because his older statement changed a bit doesn’t mean his memory was affected, hell my grandmother is 91 and has still got all her marbles, in fact her memory is probably better than mine :mrgreen:

 
Posted : February 10, 2021 12:38 pm
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"Shuffling lope" was in Fouke’s original report. He elaborated on it years later with "lumbering gait," "semi-limp," etc. (Grinell has exhaustively cataloged the Fouke material in this case, so it’s easily Googled.) And one of the sun bathers allegedly told Graysmith that the peeper "favored one leg," though she said it wasn’t a limp.

Nobody else ever mentioned such a thing, as far as I know. And the wanted poster doesn’t say, "has a limp." Which would all appear to suggest that if he had walking issues, it wasn’t something that was persistent or always noticeable, so chronic infirmities really do not point to great suspects.

 
Posted : February 10, 2021 5:06 pm
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And one of the sun bathers allegedly told Graysmith that the peeper "favored one leg," though she said it wasn’t a limp.

None of the sunbathers bothered to mention that to the police. The claim originated with Graysmith in "Zodiac Unmasked."

 
Posted : February 10, 2021 11:18 pm
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