In the past (around 2004) there was debate about this card and the possibility Zodiac was the author on several forums. I list this card in this thread because through time several webpages with this story have vanished and I wanted to show it to the new people interested in the Zodiac case.
Here is a newspaperarticle about this card in connection with a dead body.
Crimescene photo:
The card:
The way this card was written is very Zodiac-like (as well as the symbol on it 
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The police said it was a suicide case, the coroner said it was a case of murder.
The dead body was identified as that of Bob Lord.
This case is from 1938 so I think the card can’t be written by Zodiac because that was 30 years before the killings in California started. But you may disagree with me.
I think the story about this case and the card (seen in newspapers and a true crime magazine) could have been an inspiration source for Z…
Here’s a thread about this story, with seagull’s scans of a 1941 article with many details:
http://zodiackiller.fr.yuku.com/topic/6158
Thank you for posting this link, Doranchak. I couldn’t find webpages about the case in a recent search so I assumed it wasn’t online anymore.
Here are some pictures taken at the wharf near the crimescene (1938):
Even a picture of the dead Bob Lord was seen in the newspapers:
This case was 78 years ago. Posting this information on this active Zodiac forum makes it better accessible for newcomers to the Zodiac case.
This has always been an interesting case.
I don’t know enough about the minutemen, but was the Minutemen group around at the time of the Lord murder & note?
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Studied the Lord case years ago. The police determined that it was a very elaborate and cleverly disguised suicide. Where the symbol came from, if you pardon the pun, only Lord knows.
He had removed the identifying laundry labels from his clothes and had registered under a fake name in a hotel in order to make it very difficult to identify him. That does not reek of murder.
He was a lovelorn playwright and I have always said that had he written a play with the plot twists that he used in his own death, he may have become a success. Sad story of a lovelorn
young man who let his grief over the girl that rejected his advances get the better of him. Strange story about her, too, IIRC.
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I am interested to hear her story, if you care to share it? Seems relevant, here…
Well, I’ve packed all those articles away but IIRC he was from San Diego and she was from Kansas visiting on vacation and he fell head over heels and decided to travel to KS to woo her. She rejected him so he went to NO to kill himself. But afterwards she was interviewed and she had a strange affect or something. His name was Alfred, not Bob. He used this really strange name in New Orleans.
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This has always been an interesting case.
I don’t know enough about the minutemen, but was the Minutemen group around at the time of the Lord murder & note?
The Minutemen were devoted to the cause of anti-communism. Both in terms of the Soviet Union and being against the US Federal government, which they felt was controlled by communist agents, sympathizers and appeasers. They formed in the early 1960’s.
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Quite possibly, The Zodiac saw this unsolved crime narrative within a now-vintage detective mag, and perhaps decided to appropriate the symbol as his own.
Most certainly, The Zodiac had no life and was entrenched by the fantasy of true crime.
This has always been an interesting case.
I don’t know enough about the minutemen, but was the Minutemen group around at the time of the Lord murder & note?
The Minutemen were devoted to the cause of anti-communism. Both in terms of the Soviet Union and being against the US Federal government, which they felt was controlled by communist agents, sympathizers and appeasers. They formed in the early 1960’s.
The Minutemen actually date back to the 1600’s… https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minutemen
I’m pretty sure that is where Robert DePugh got the name from to start his Minutemen in the early 60’s.
A few minutes ago on a toilet not very far, far away….
Morf, what was the date of that article? That is definitely the Minutemen. Their cross-hair symbol is exactly the same, where none of the lines go outside the circle.
A few minutes ago on a toilet not very far, far away….
Morf, what was the date of that article? That is definitely the Minutemen. Their cross-hair symbol is exactly the same, where none of the lines go outside the circle.
It was from a Newspaper in the San Bernardino area, I think it was 65-67,I forget the year
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It was in the San Bernardino County Sun, published 16 July 1967:
Part 1: https://www.newspapers.com/clip/4699206 … ounty_sun/
Part 2: https://www.newspapers.com/clip/4699203 … ounty_sun/
It was in the San Bernardino County Sun, published 16 July 1967:
Part 1: https://www.newspapers.com/clip/4699206 … ounty_sun/
Part 2: https://www.newspapers.com/clip/4699203 … ounty_sun/
There you go
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Right. Yes the original minutemen fought in the Revolutionary War.
But the Minutemen group was formed in the early 1960’s. The Lord death and the mysterious note with the cross hair symbol was in the 1940’s. So there can’t be any connection between the Lord symbol and the Minutemen.
It could be possible Zodiac was inspired by the Lord symbol (if he read old detective magazines) and/or the Minutemen symbol (if he supported or was at least exposed to the right wing group).
But the basic symbol also occurs in mathematics (the Unit Circle), firearms (a crosshair) and other places.
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