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Hello All,
I have been away from the forum since the switchover to the new forum

I have been looking, in vain, for information relating to an incident in Berkeley/Oakland/ Alameda County that took place in the 1950’s(?)

As I remember it from the old, old, OLD forum…. A dead bird(?)/ animal of some kind was killed by a young boy ( serial killer triad pattern?) and the body was wrapped in a letter signed " Red Phantom" or Zodiac…. Can’t remember which.

The family flew a Jolly Roger Flag ( Belli…. Anyone?) and the kid was described as " strange and antisocial" at a pre-teen age.
It was in the newspapers and rehashed for obvious reasons on boards ( even the address ,if I remember correctly) but the neighbor declined to press charges and the juvenile was not identified.

I would REALLY like to find more information for this as it fits ( geographically and otherwise) a long term POI of mine.

Nice to post again and hope to update my profile/ post in the welcome section.

IBF

 
Posted : August 6, 2014 6:27 am
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IBF, good to see you back! :) Here ya go- http://www.zodiackillerfacts.com/forum/ … f=71&t=658

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Posted : August 6, 2014 7:43 am
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Thanks Morf!
Good to be back and thanks for the info!!

Can anyone with physical or digital access to a 1946-47 Polk’s Directory for Albany, CA try and find an address for William J Keating, the man who received the " Red Phantom" note with "three clews".

This fits with a POI(s) that I have been researching for a long time.

His/Their family lived in Albany in 1947 and he was 9 ( Born in 1938) at the time of this occurrence.

IBF

 
Posted : August 6, 2014 8:47 pm
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IBF,
Welcome back. You were missed! My life is crazy busy right now. But if no one else finds the Albany Polk for you, I can do my best in the future (couple of weeks) to try to track it & the info dowm.
Zam*

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Posted : August 6, 2014 9:34 pm
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Wow, just when I think I’ve read most everything there is regarding this case, a new intriguing avenue appears. I’d really love to know who this kid was and if he was ever looked at. Right age, Californian, "clews," "red phanthom," threatning letters. At the very least you have a little psychopath in the making here.

 
Posted : August 6, 2014 10:44 pm
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I am desperately seeking some help finding William J Keating’s address in Albany, CA circa 1947.

The only 1946 Directory I found lists people BY ADDRESS only!!!

What good is a directory that is not in alphabetical order but by alphabetical street name… Lol!?

I know he was born in 1902 and his wife’s name was Wilhelmina ( née Goess).

Please help….. Anyone?

 
Posted : August 7, 2014 1:50 am
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I am desperately seeking some help finding William J Keating’s address in Albany, CA circa 1947.

The only 1946 Directory I found lists people BY ADDRESS only!!!

What good is a directory that is not in alphabetical order but by alphabetical street name… Lol!?

I know he was born in 1902 and his wife’s name was Wilhelmina ( née Goess).

Please help….. Anyone?

Not sure if he’s related, but in the 1974 Vallejo Directory, there is a WILLIAM J. KEATING JR, listed as a student, living at 219 Hampshire St.

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https://twitter.com/Morf13ZKS

 
Posted : August 7, 2014 6:58 am
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I am desperately seeking some help finding William J Keating’s address in Albany, CA circa 1947.

The only 1946 Directory I found lists people BY ADDRESS only!!!

What good is a directory that is not in alphabetical order but by alphabetical street name… Lol!?

I know he was born in 1902 and his wife’s name was Wilhelmina ( née Goess).

Please help….. Anyone?

There is a census entry for him it looks like.

1930 census-
William J. Keating, born aprox 1902
resided at 1122 East 18th st Oakland, CA (Alameda County)
He was 28 yrs old at the time of the census in 1930.

Household Members:
Name Age
William J Keating 74
Myta C Keating 29
William J Keating 28
Reginald B Keating 26
Selman G Keating 25
Harold M Keating 22
Fred L Keating 20
Muriel B Keating 18
Julian B Keating 16
Jeanette Keating 15

Here’s a 1957 Oakland Directory listing, may be the same guy:
Name: William J Keating
Residence Year: 1957
Street address: 1509FranclsAY LAnscpe 5-5262
Residence Place: Oakland, California, USA
Publication Title: Oakland, California, City Directory, 1957

DEATH:
NAME: William James Keating
BIRTH: 19 Feb 1902 – California
DEATH: 4 Jan 1985 – Contra Costa

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Posted : August 7, 2014 7:46 am
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There’s a thread dedicated to this RED PHANTOM letter here- viewtopic.php?f=98&t=509&p=2319&hilit=pigeons#p2319

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Posted : August 7, 2014 8:09 am
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Z’s use of Red Phanthom and spelling of "clews" could equally be a red herring. Maybe Z had read the story and decided to incorporate it into the letters as a diversion.

 
Posted : August 9, 2014 9:45 pm
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I am desperately seeking some help finding William J Keating’s address in Albany, CA circa 1947.

The only 1946 Directory I found lists people BY ADDRESS only!!!

What good is a directory that is not in alphabetical order but by alphabetical street name… Lol!?

I know he was born in 1902 and his wife’s name was Wilhelmina ( née Goess).

Please help….. Anyone?

Not sure if he’s related, but in the 1974 Vallejo Directory, there is a WILLIAM J. KEATING JR, listed as a student, living at 219 Hampshire St.

Probably a longshot, but if this was the address that these "spears" landed in, then they probably would have come from 416 Mississippi St, Vallejo, CA. Maybe someone can check into that as well.

A few minutes ago on a toilet not very far, far away….

 
Posted : September 11, 2014 2:56 pm
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Or 426 Mississippi St.

A few minutes ago on a toilet not very far, far away….

 
Posted : September 11, 2014 3:00 pm
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Is there a link to the directory from ’47 where you have to search by address? I would like to see who lived at 434 Mississippi St.

A few minutes ago on a toilet not very far, far away….

 
Posted : September 16, 2014 11:02 am
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Ever find out who lived at 434 Mississippi St?

 
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