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In 1969 Rick Marshall lived in a basement residence in Scott Street, San Francisco, a few miles from the Stine murder scene, but what was the exact address ie; house number.

 
Posted : July 30, 2015 4:46 pm
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Here are the Richard Marshalls in the 1970 SF directory. Rick Marshall was full name, Richard Reed Marshall, not sure if any of these are him

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Posted : July 30, 2015 6:32 pm
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Don’t recall ever seeing an exact address. Only that he supposedly/allegedly lived on Scott Street at the time of the Stine murder.

This is – supposedly – a picture of the place (courtesy of zkiller.com):

 
Posted : July 30, 2015 9:29 pm
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After quick scan with google street view, the house in picture looks like 141 Scott St.

 
Posted : July 31, 2015 4:45 am
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After quick scan with google street view, the house in picture looks like 141 Scott St.

Nice job Buckwheat!

This is from the 1969-1970 SF Polk’s Directory. It’s all the people who lived on the 100 block of Scott Street. This block is between Waller and Haight streets.

www.santarosahitchhikermurders.com

 
Posted : July 31, 2015 6:14 am
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Going back to the people listed in that same directory, I found the Raymond White who was listed at 141 Scott.

www.santarosahitchhikermurders.com

 
Posted : July 31, 2015 6:22 am
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I need the basement residence to be at the north end of Scott Street, near the Marina District. Whether or not the Marshall connection pans out is not of great importance, many of the properties in the Marina District had basements and susceptible to flooding with heavy rainfall and am looking into this region in connection to the Presidio Heights murder.

 
Posted : July 31, 2015 10:47 am
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Is Rick Marshall or your inquiry commune related?

Soze

 
Posted : July 31, 2015 1:30 pm
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Is Rick Marshall or your inquiry commune related?

Soze

No it is based upon the thought that some people believe the Zodiac may have lived nearby the Stine murder and left the area on foot. I now believe the Zodiac was in the park, because everything he says in the Bus Bomb Letter all tallies to an area of trees just off the Jackson and Spruce Street intersection, including his field of view. So after he left the park on foot where does he go now. He can see the commotion, police and fire trucks on Arguello Boulevard so he certainly doesn’t head west. Heading through the undergrowth through the park north is equally risky. He was aware he was spotted on Jackson Street, where Donald Fouke saw him (these were his claims), so it would be foolish and unnecessary to re-enter Jackson Street in a southerly direction, leaving the logical choice of heading east, away from the current search area. In other words the Cow Hollow district. But if he had no vehicle, did he live somewhere close by. In the ‘My Name is..Letter’ mailed on April 20th 1970 the Zodiac stated "I have killed ten people to date. It would have been a lot more except that my bus bomb was a dud. I was swamped out by the rain we had a while back," and in the Bus Bomb Letter he said "What you do not know is whether the death machine is at the sight or whether it is being stored in my basement for future use."
Taking the Zodiac Killer at face value it made sense to look in this region of Cow Hollow or the Marina District for basement residences and flood plains in the region. The ‘My Name is..Letter’ could easily have been telling the truth also. It was mailed on April 20th talking of "rain we had a while back." San Francisco’s rainy months are between November and April, averaging over 100 mm monthly. I noticed the north end contained Scott Street and remembered the Rick Marshall connection. He supposedly lived a few miles from the Stine murder and the Marina District is 2 miles away. Having said that I don’t believe he is Zodiac, I was just curious.

 
Posted : July 31, 2015 4:28 pm
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I know very little to practically nothing regarding the "usual suspects". Been working my own case from the start and don’t believe any of the suspects listed in the zodiac suspect section are Zodiac. So the only thing that peaked my interest with your post was Scott Street. Part of my research early on led me to Scott Street and the communal paper known as Kaliflower. What led me there was the Zodiac’s penchant for writing about things after the fact and finding articles written in this communal paper that correlated to mentions made by the Zodiac concerning his supposed bomb and specifically the " my name is" reference. Looking at the writings for the cover of this publication, you can see one or two, that has the hallmarks of the Zodiac’s writing style. The rest seem to be done by one person. I have not been able to find anything that tied to the Zodiac since and have pretty much set it to the side until your post. Because I didn’t know anything about Rick Marshall and, while I waited for a response from you, I scratched the surface and looked into him. He seems to run in the same circles as that of the founder of this Kaliflower publication; Irving Rosenthal. Are you pretty certain that the address would need to be in cow hollow/ marina district? The address for the commune was 1209 Scott. It was 1.6 miles in a south east direction from the Zodiacs intended stop. I do follow along your reasoning with regards to the hiding spot (and agree) but not sure I understand or agree with the direction of travel from there or that he was on foot. Don’t disagree but don’t agree either. I’m just not sure that there is enough to say that he was on foot from there out, not by car and heading in the direction of cow hollow. Could he have not also made the trek by foot in a southerly direction? Not trying to sway you from anything. I guess im trying to make sense of all these little zynchronicities. Following?

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Posted : July 31, 2015 11:49 pm
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I believe he was in the park, but not necessarily on foot thereafter. I built this reasoning for the hypothesis that some people did believe he was on foot. But on foot or vehicle, if he was in the park his safest exit route seemed to be east, so Scott Street is on the radar. He could have exited San Francisco altogether, but if you believe he lived in San Francisco, then once he exited the park on the east side, his residence could have been further east, up towards the Marina District or to 1209 Scott or in a south easterly direction. But if you believe the ‘foot hypothesis’, then I doubt his residence was far, if he had failed to ready a vehicle.
A car parked on the fringes of the park, let’s say Vallejo St is a possibility, then he has separation.
The only thought regarding the Marina District was the flooding aspect.

 
Posted : August 1, 2015 12:15 am
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I believe he was in the park, but not necessarily on foot thereafter. I built this reasoning for the hypothesis that some people did believe he was on foot. But on foot or vehicle, if he was in the park his safest exit route seemed to be east, so Scott Street is on the radar. He could have exited San Francisco altogether, but if you believe he lived in San Francisco, then once he exited the park on the east side, his residence could have been further east, up towards the Marina District or to 1209 Scott or in a south easterly direction. But if you believe the ‘foot hypothesis’, then I doubt his residence was far, if he had failed to ready a vehicle.
A car parked on the fringes of the park, let’s say Vallejo St is a possibility, then he has separation.
The only thought regarding the Marina District was the flooding aspect.

A 1209 Scott St is not showing in the directory. There are a few A/B addresses which likely denote that there were basement apartments in those addresses. The 1200 block of Scott is between Turk/Eddy and Ellis Streets.

www.santarosahitchhikermurders.com

 
Posted : August 1, 2015 12:25 am
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