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Instead of being disjointed, complex, mysterious, this pathway has explanatory power with easy to understand components that are minimal.

No, it is just the opposite and quite honestly I am concerned about your mental health.

“Murder will out, this my conclusion.”
– Geoffrey Chaucer

 
Posted : July 10, 2020 5:56 pm
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I am a biologist. A scientist. My background is in molecular and cell biology including phylogenics and evolutionary research which is what goes on with familial DNA analysis. It also involves statistics. In fact it can be used for the very Covid 19 pandemic we are having and virology and evolutionary research there is not too different except it’s RNA evolution.

My POI can now also be directly connected to bus municipality work and had family involved in the business.

The confounding variable is the Zodiac, which is what throws the pareidolia analogy out of whack. It is fine for claims of seeing things in natural phenomena like clouds, but when you deal with something humans have influenced then that all changes. Meaning goal posts have to move and the original critic gets redesigned and in the end you will be where I am – you need additional evidence in conjunction with it. This is what someone who gets a familial DNA analysis hit will need to do anyway.

Basically the last place to claim everything everyone is seeing is nonsense is in a complex serial killer case involving a lot of puzzles, ciphers, clues being dropped by the confounding variable – The Zodiac. What you really want to ask is how do you segregate things out etc. Which is really just going to loop right back to my point of needing additional evidence. Also not all arguments are co-equal. Hence parsimony.

I mean what breakthrough do you think you yourself can make on here given you have no access to the hard evidence to do anything with it?

Obviously we are not seeing things here…

You skip over a lot of stuff without answering things I put out there. Which really doesn’t make for dialogue with someone, sorry.

There is also more. Including a connection to the bus industry.

EDIT: I believe I have solved the mystery ML writing on the car. It was transferred from the paper in part it seems.

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Posted : July 10, 2020 6:11 pm
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The unknown vehicle left tire tracks. This vehicle had two different size tires on front, tires were worn.

That may seem normal for an older car at first but it isn’t. Normal would mean they swapped out one worn tire for another worn tire of different size. What are they doing? Replacing one at a time with worn tires?

Replacing a single worn tire would be 3 worn + 1 new (same size) not 3 worn + 1 worn (different size; the Zodiac’s alleged car).

3 worn + 1 worn of a different front size is a patch job. Like someone trying to find a bunch of used tires and got 3 worn matching and 1 worn non-matching that will work for now.

Is a forensically aware Zodiac aware enough to swap tires out for used ones they get rid of? Is that why he crouched down near the door to write? Had he done that all day long for four wheels before the LB attack?

No doubt those tires went into the dump that evening or following day.

The reason why the stalking man seen in close proximity and timing to the LB attack is so important is that he never came forward and has never been identified. The chances of such a remote location having two stalkers with the same build stalking independently of each other like that is highly unlikely.

Let his face get seen twice by three girls but still went on to attack Hartnell & Shepard. He was driven. He was driven because of the investment he had put in for that day. Complete set of worn tires to dispose after, costume with embroidered Zodiac symbol, clip-on glasses for a planned daytime attack, a ruse of a narrative to get them to submit to him. There was no way that fantasy was not going to play out if the opportunity presented itself and it did a little while later. That is why the girls gave us some good clues.

So anyway I think planning to use old worn tires explains that configuration forensics found.

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Posted : July 13, 2020 11:07 am
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Ferrin in addition to Mageau thought the Zodiac was a cop.

2nd page http://www.zodiackillerfacts.com/galler … play_media

I updated viewtopic.php?f=38&t=4855&start=20#p79761

Zodiac is probably a failed cop because that has huge explanatory power over a lot of evidence. No doubt this guy had planned since a young age to become a supercop and probably thought he would genuinely do good and get the accolades but was probably a bit unstable and so they didn’t accept him.

As a result of that and other matters probably flipped over to become a supervillain type character diametrically opposed to the police and needs to show them what a genius they are missing. Since serial killers were relatively unstudied phenomena he was not forensically aware of what a serial killer is. Today serial killers can read up on themselves instead of turning to Hollywood, novels, and comics like the Zodiac did to explain himself. He even dresses up as a comic book villain. He needed to feel in uniform again. Wouldn’t surprise me if under the hood it was squared off by a policeman’s hat and the glasses clipped to the peak. Even though Hartnell said the glasses were attached to the eye holes, it’s not so stable and pulls down on the cloth. I’d say the peak of the cap stabilized them.

That’s just my opinion. No evidence for it but I like explanations that try to cover as much of the evidence as possible.

In context with everything else though it certainly continues to keep pointing that way and not away from it though.

Cut-off techniques. Flashlight distractions. Understood jurisdiction issues. Forensically aware of secretion status testing (no saliva). Calmly walking by LE after shooting someone point blank. Has no problem communicating with LE whereas most would be doing the opposite. Calls them pigs like EARONS did (JJD was a cop) as a ruse. Story about killing a prison guard. Gets Bryan and Cecilia down on their knees at gunpoint before going rear like an arrest giving them orders. First Zodiac letter like a ballistics report. Even talks like a cop sometimes in his letters "They have not complied…", "if they do not comply."

I totally fail to get how they couldn’t have been looking at LE. They absolutely must have been (and we sort of know they did with Ferrin’s circle of friends) and that probably developed into a problem. I wonder if the original investigation ran into trouble between jurisdictions not because they don’t get along or anything like that but because they were probably looking so closely at this angle that it upset too many in departments in various jurisdictions or just ran dry looking through candidates.

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Posted : July 14, 2020 12:54 am
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…. happened to be stalking at a location nearer to the one the Zodiac gave dispatch than where he had attacked Hartnell and Shepard.

"I want to report a murder, no, a double murder. They are two miles north of Park Headquarters. They were in a white Volkswagen Karmann Ghia. I’m the one that did it."

https://www.zodiacciphers.com/zodiac-ne … ttle-creek

That’s an interesting observation. Obviously investigators deemed that stalker event significant enough to put out a composite on him in association with the attack on Hartnell and Shepard.

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Posted : July 15, 2020 12:52 am
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So anyway aside from firecrackers and Ms. Firecracker contests here is something else very interesting.

Riverside parade 1966 parade.

You can watch the whole parade here. It’s amazing. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kDBBdgQKbJo

First National Bank had a float there. Cheri Jo Bates worked for this bank I believe. It went through some name changes.

Look at the next float.

Notice the Jnr. Chamber of Commerce is advertising on that float. They organize parades.

One of the guys I am discussing was on a Jnr. Chamber of Commerce. I won’t say which one but he worked on projects like this all the time including Jnr. Miss contests.

He also worked on projects in conjunction with municipal buses.

This was taken one month before the murder of Cheri Jo Bates…

… and yes I will enlarge those shoes.

BTW, I had to double check that photograph several times to make sure it wasn’t his dad, but no, it is him. He is 29! In that photo he looks mid-to-late 30s. Basically this guy in his late 20s was looking 5 to 10 years older.

The Original wanted poster was 25-30 and the Amended one 35-45. That’s quite a variation between 25 and 45 (20 years). These guys would have been 32 at the time.

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Posted : July 15, 2020 11:17 am
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I did some research on that parade video and figured out it was not all filmed on the same day.
I believe about half the film was taken in 1964 and the other half in 1965 or 1966. (likely 65)

in the video you can see the Ramona High marching band being led by several girls that look
like could be cheerleaders, Any chance one of them could be Cheri Jo ?

Based on my research I believe the first half or so of the video (including the segment showing
Ramona High) was filmed sometime between September 1964 and December 1964, Cheri Jo was
a cheerleader during the 1964/1965 school year.

 
Posted : July 16, 2020 7:12 am
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I did some research on that parade video and figured out it was not all filmed on the same day.
I believe about half the film was taken in 1964 and the other half in 1965 or 1966. (likely 65)

in the video you can see the Ramona High marching band being led by several girls that look
like could be cheer leaders, Any chance one of them could be Cheri Jo ?

That’s well spotted to notice it’s an ensemble. The problem with 8mm film at these distances to the parade is that the film grain is too large to discern facial features and even physique. Facial recognition programs probably wouldn’t work. So no matter who we think we are seeing here when you enlarge it just looks like highly compressed pixels. So you would have to supplement any claims to identification there with something else. I could barely make out the writing on the floats. However don’t let this put anyone off viewing it or researching it. It’s a cool piece of history to look into regardless and you get something out of the historical research in the process.

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Posted : July 16, 2020 11:52 am
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This is an interesting article I keep going back to in my research. This places David Faraday in PETALUMA back in 1965 at a dance and award ceremony held by a lodge. Interesting names in there.

Anyway lodges come up quite a bit when you research these areas back then and community events. It is very interesting how networked up the Sonoma communities are back then. I am willing to bet that these lodges and chambers of commerce members are basically comprised of a lot of the same people.

Anyway here is the David Faraday article.

I’ll also pop this other in here.

https://imgur.com/a/2YPnpSM

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Posted : July 16, 2020 12:22 pm
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There is also a direct connection to Oceanside with a home in the St Cloud At Ocean area which is about 7 min drive to where Ray Davis picked up his fair on Mission street and therefore 14 min to the crime scene.

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Posted : July 16, 2020 5:35 pm
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So that’s Vallejo and water and probably codes to cross off the list.

I think the submarine community would respond to some wording the Zodiac used as the sort of thing they say on submarines.

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Posted : July 17, 2020 3:25 am
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Letter to the San Francisco Chronicle (April 20th, 1970). The ‘blue meannies’ references the Beatles’ animated theatrical film “Yellow Submarine” (13th January 1969).

He references blue meanies again in his March 13th, 1971 letter.

The Zodiac symbol is like a periscope crosshair in part.

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Posted : July 18, 2020 12:09 pm
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I don’t know how important this is because the evidence for a limp is scant.

Timecode for witness talking about it here ->https://youtu.be/HI0jnsbZwys?t=5224

One of my guys damaged his knee playing football and was out for the rest of the season. This was well documented because he was a big deal at the time. It took three surgeons to work on his damaged torn knee cartridge. He made a brief comeback and does exhibition stuff in his later ages but it seems that was the sport’s injury career ending moment. Those things tend to come back as you get older also.

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Posted : July 23, 2020 4:10 pm
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Here we go with the limp nonsense again…

 
Posted : July 23, 2020 9:57 pm
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Fred Manalli can be put within 15 min walk whenever of these guys in numerous ways. I can also put these guys closer to some locations than the ones that also got Manalli noticed. The Manalli working theory thread is here -> viewtopic.php?f=46&t=1497&start=50#p80144

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Posted : July 25, 2020 4:04 pm
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