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Raw TV Footage Interviews with LE and Hartnell

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Seagull
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I had Tom post this for me at his board long ago and forgot about it until Tahoe asked me about a televised Hartnell interview. At the time it was posted my interest in the footage was a get well card tacked up on the wall of Hartnell’s hospital room. It is a card similar to the to the Dragon Card. After reviewing the footage again I think it has other important info besides the card on the wall. Good shots of the LB crime scene area and other interviews.

Here’s the footage-

https://diva.sfsu.edu/collections/sfbatv/bundles/190654

And here is the thread at Tom’s-

http://zodiackiller.fr.yuku.com/topic/6 … ciDQknn-M8

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Posted : June 24, 2013 9:55 pm
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The sun behind the donkey definitely reminds me the strange symbol at 26 St Stephens Drive..

QT

*ZODIACHRONOLOGY*

 
Posted : June 24, 2013 10:23 pm
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Thanks for posting this here Seagull. This is one of the best interviews of Bryan. Quite forgiving I must say. Too bad some of it is silenced, but still one of the best I’ve seen.


…they may be dealing with one or more ersatz Zodiacs–other psychotics eager to get into the act, or perhaps even other murderers eager to lay their crimes at the real Zodiac’s doorstep. L.A. Times, 1969

 
Posted : June 24, 2013 11:57 pm
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There’s a Charlie Brown card on the wall, I notice.
Do you suppose that’s the card that was later sent off for handwriting examination?
http://www.zodiackiller.com/LBReport30.html

 
Posted : July 17, 2013 2:35 pm
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There’s a Charlie Brown card on the wall, I notice.
Do you suppose that’s the card that was later sent off for handwriting examination?
http://www.zodiackiller.com/LBReport30.html

Not sure,but the Charlie Brown card on the wall is interesting. Then again, Charlie Brown was likely quite popular back then. The Charlie Brown card in the report by the way was written by Glenn Albertson. Police looked at Albertson pretty closely as a suspect, and I would HOPE that he was properly ruled out. I tried multiple times to get more info on the card or a copy of it,but had no luck. Albertson was once a mental patient in Napa Mental hospital

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Posted : July 17, 2013 8:37 pm
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Oooh thanks Mike, new info.
You know Glenn Albertson wrote the Charlie Brown card – the one tested in this timeframe, mentioned by Hal here – but it’s not been released as to why it was tested and who got it?
Interesting!
Yes, Peanuts and Charles ("Sparky" – a really nice man, I’ve been told) Schultz its creator were big-time famous already, then, from the TV animation as well as being in the newspapers (hmmmmm) – franchised everywhere – but I still think I’d take a small wager that’s it, then. Maybe.

Doesn’t it suddenly seem like every former or current inmate at Napa Mental hospital needed to involve themselves in Zodiac matters some way or another?
Just goes to show, doesn’t it, that the materials we see are the tip of a very big iceberg that LE was concerned with…..

 
Posted : July 17, 2013 10:43 pm
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This is what I have found on the Glenn W Albertson in question:

Glenn W Albertson had an address in Vallejo:

U.S. Public Records Index, Volume 1
about Glenn W Albertson Name: Glenn W Albertson
Birth Date: 30 Jan 1929
Address: 281 Cottonwood Dr, Vallejo, CA, 94591-5724 (1993)

He died in 2000:

Social Security Death Index
about Glenn W. Albertson
Name: Glenn W. Albertson
SSN: 475-40-8856
Last Residence: 94591 Vallejo, Solano, California, United States of America
Born: 30 Jan 1929
Died: 5 Jun 2000
State (Year) SSN issued: Minnesota (1955)

Apparently he died in Oregon:

Oregon, Death Index, 1898-2008
about Glenn Wayland Albertson
Name: Glenn Wayland Albertson
Age: 71
Birth Date: 1929
Death Date: 5 Jun 2000
Death Place: Douglas

his full name was Glenn Wayland Albertson,
and his daughter lived in Vallejo married to N. Odell :

Minnesota Birth Index, 1935-2002
about Kimberlee Gay Albertson
Name: Kimberlee Gay Albertson
Birth Date: 3 Oct 1955
Birth County: Hennepin
Father: Glenn Wayland Albertson
Mother: Shirley Anne Stewart
File number: 1955-MN-060830

Thise are Glenn W Albertson’s divorce records:

Glenn W Albertson Shirley A Stewart Solano Jul 1969

Glenn W Albertson Shirley A Stewart Solano May 1969

Glenn W Albertson Shirley A Stewart Solano Feb 1971

Glenn W Albertson Shirley A Solano 29 Oct 1984

Shirley A Stewart Glenn W Albertson Solano Jul 1969

Shirley A Stewart Glenn W Albertson Solano May 1969

Shirley A Stewart Glenn W Albertson Solano Feb 1971

But he remarried the same wife in 1977, in Nevada, but they apparently then was listed as living in Illinoise:

The were divorced in Jul 1969 ??? :

Nevada Marriage Index, 1956-2005
about Glenn W Albertson
Name: Glenn W Albertson
Gender: Male
Residence state: Illinois
Spouse: Shirley A Albertson
Spouse residence state: Illinois
Marriage Date: 16 Jul 1977
Marriage city: Reno
Officiant type: Religious celebrant
Recorded date: 19 Aug 1977
Recorded city: Reno
Book: 642
Page: -133

Hi, english is not my first language so please bear with me :)

 
Posted : July 18, 2013 1:00 am
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One of the reports stated that Albertson’s writing was "Quite similar" to Zodiac’s. A Detective Buddy of mine in Napa was trying to find the card in question, or a report on it,but never did. Albertson during the zodiac murders, had gotten some sort of permit to sell door to door vacuums or carpet cleaners,or something along those lines.I think he has kids, and I think (but cant remember)that he was involved in some sort of storage rental business later on in the Vallejo area.

It’s quite odd all of the times it looks as if they filed for divorce, and then didnt go thru with it,and that the first time was just around the time of the first Zodiac letter. I have yet to find a photo of him.

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Posted : July 18, 2013 4:21 am
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Is this the same guy? It seems to list his birth year as 1924 though.

http://aad.archives.gov/aad/record-deta … id=6648512


I don’t know Chief, he’s very smart or very dumb.

 
Posted : July 18, 2013 5:07 am
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Oooh thanks Mike, new info.
You know Glenn Albertson wrote the Charlie Brown card – the one tested in this timeframe, mentioned by Hal here – but it’s not been released as to why it was tested and who got it?
Interesting!
Yes, Peanuts and Charles ("Sparky" – a really nice man, I’ve been told) Schultz its creator were big-time famous already, then, from the TV animation as well as being in the newspapers (hmmmmm) – franchised everywhere – but I still think I’d take a small wager that’s it, then. Maybe.

Doesn’t it suddenly seem like every former or current inmate at Napa Mental hospital needed to involve themselves in Zodiac matters some way or another?
Just goes to show, doesn’t it, that the materials we see are the tip of a very big iceberg that LE was concerned with…..

Regarding Charles "Sparky" Schulz. He was a strange person. He owned the Empire Ice Arena where SRHM victims Maureen Sterling and Yvonne Weber were last seen. I’m not implying that Sparky had anything to do with their murders, just giving a little background info.

Sparky’s main offices were on the same grounds as the ice arena. On July 5, 1995 the wife of one of Sparky’s employee’s, his business manager Ron Nelson, came to the offices and shot her husband. The shots were not fatal. The wife was duly arrested and sent for psychiatric evaluation. Seems that the wife had found out that her husband was having an affair with a fellow employee.

What makes this story so unusual is that Ron Nelson was fired from his job by Sparky. Then Sparky posted the $2 million bail for the wife accused of the shooting!

http://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/B … 122050.php

"Santa Rosa woman
remains free on bail
Santa Rosa Shirley Nelson, accused of trying to kill her husband, the former business manager for cartoonist Charles Schulz, will remain free on $2 million cash bail, a Sonoma County judge has ruled.

Superior Court Judge Bryan Jamar decided last week that Nelson, 65, was not a threat to her estranged husband, Ron Nelson, 53, and could remain on bail without new conditions.

Nelson is scheduled to stand trial in December. She is charged with attempted murder for shooting her husband in the back twice on July 5 while he was working in the

"Peanuts" cartoonist’s offices on Snoopy Lane in Santa Rosa.

Police say Nelson was distraught over the breakup of their 28-year marriage and her husband’s love affair with a younger woman who worked in the Schulz organization.

After the shooting Ron Nelson was fired by Schulz, and his girlfriend resigned. For a time after the shooting Shirley Nelson was confined to a Ross psychiatric hospital because she was considered suicidal and a threat to others.

Prosecutor David Dunn asked for Nelson’s bail to be revoked after learning of a phone call in which Nelson said she would burn down the family home.

In testimony Thursday, Donna Martin, a friend, testified that Nelson actually said she would burn the couple’s bed if she found the girlfriend had slept in it.

Ron Nelson suffered critical injuries in the shooting. After his wife allegedly shot him, Shirley Nelson turned the gun on herself. She has recovered from the wound."

http://www.sfgate.com/news/article/BAY- … 844381.php

"Santa Rosa — A woman who shot her husband in cartoonist Charles Schulz’s office will spend one year in jail and 18 months in home confinement, a judge ruled yesterday.

Sonoma County Superior Court Judge Arnold Rosenfield sentenced Shirley Ann Nelson, 67, to seven years for the attempted murder of her husband, then suspended her term to five years probation, including the jail time and home confinement.

Nelson, who had pleaded no contest, wept through the sentencing and was taken into custody immediately after, saying through tears that "I want to get it over with."

Nelson shot her 53-year-old husband, Ron, in the cartoonist’s office on July 5, 1995, a day after he told her he was leaving her for a younger secretary, who worked for Schulz. Then Nelson turned the gun on herself and tried to commit suicide.

Ron Nelson, who was the business manager for the creator of the "Peanuts" strip, suffered nearly fatal injuries. He spent 6 1/2 weeks in the hospital recovering from his wounds. He no longer works for Schulz.

Shirley Nelson pleaded no contest to the charges in February after her first trial ended in a hung jury. She has been free on $2 million bail, which Schulz paid, for some time. She has credit for 76 days of prison time."

These are SF Chronicle online articles, there were articles in the Press Democrat that went much deeper into the story at the time. One of these days I should get those articles.

www.santarosahitchhikermurders.com

 
Posted : August 5, 2013 4:10 am
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