On the last podcast episode of Criminology, an interesting statement was made. That LE withheld information from the public that proves beyond any doubt, that LB was in fact a true Zodiac crime.
Since we have been privy to all the police reports, I wonder what that might be? As with the "by knife"…that was hidden from the public, but we know about it from police reports.
“…they may be dealing with one or more ersatz Zodiacs–other psychotics eager to get into the act, or perhaps even other murderers eager to lay their crimes at the real Zodiac’s doorstep.“ L.A. Times, 1969
Has anybody considered that Zodiac may have in fact corresponded in the form of written communication and we all just assumed he hadn’t. It may have been a jurisdictional decision, to force the killer into a mistake, or for further confirmation.
It may have been withheld, because of its graphic nature.
If the 340 cipher is ever decoded, what are the odds Lake Berryessa, or something related to this attack is hidden within the code.
I agree that it’s very possible that there has been a mailing related to Lake Berryessa that has not been released to the public – I always found it rather odd that he (as far as our knowledge goes) made no mention of the attack in any of his letters. Perhaps he wrote something really taunting about Cecelia and for the sake of her family law enforcement kept quiet about it.
Another option is that perhaps he stated something in the phone call that confirmed him as the perpetrator at Vallejo.
All of the letters that we have been privy to were sent to newspapers. Newspapers did turn the letters over to LE but not before photographing them and arranging with LE to publish all or parts of the letters in most cases. It is certainly possible that Zodiac sent letters directly to LE or individuals and those letters were never published. We do know there are questioned letters, such as the letter sent to Dr. Adams, sent to individuals. There were also questioned letters sent to the Sacramento Bee and letters postmarked Fairfield CA written in the last quarter of 1969.
We know about the questioned letters because proof of their existence was eventually discovered in the FBI files. I think it is a stretch to think if there was a letter written by Zodiac that had anything to do with the LB attack it would have been kept secret for this long. LE did send all letters, suspected or otherwise, to the FBI for examination. Evidence of a letter of this nature would be apparent in the FBI files or in the police reports that we have available.
I didn’t even see this sketch til now and think your right Tahoe. The 3 girls seen this guy longer than anyone in the day light. I’m liking JJD even more now.. that sketch definitely looks like him, even reminded me of this-
I can’t make out what JJD stands for.
Also, didn’t Bryan Hartnell say the assailant had curly hair?
Last remark, did the 3 girls spoke about a backpack (to transport the hood) or something? And was the man they saw dressed as the one who attacked Hartnell and Shepard?
I can’t make out what JJD stands for.
I’m guessing Joseph deAngelo, since that is a suspect sketch of him.
Last remark, did the 3 girls spoke about a backpack (to transport the hood) or something? And was the man they saw dressed as the one who attacked Hartnell and Shepard?
I think it was said his shirt was bunched up and possibly a white undershirt sticking out, which some think could be the ropes hidden under his shirt. I think the guy was dresses somewhat similar, but would have to look through the report to be certain.
Just to clarify, as far as I know the sketch above is unrelated to LB.
The three girls had completely different discriptions of whom they had noticed. there is one very bad sketch, which actually was the result of what they had said.
Please correct me if I am wrong but the sketch posted above is ONS, not Z at LB, true (why posting it in this section)?
http://earonsgsk.proboards.com/thread/1 … sketches-2
Worst (Z) sketch ever:
https://www.zodiacciphers.com/zodiac-ki … -berryessa
Oh, btw, they described him as 28 to 40 years old…thus born fro 1941 to as early as 1929…following Fouke’s (older) description (my estimation is him being born around 1942 to 1944 but that could be wrong..Z indeed could be in his early 90ies – or dead since ~40 years..).
QT
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Please correct me if I am wrong but the sketch posted above is ONS, not Z at LB, true (why posting it in this section)?
yes, the sketch above is from the EAR/ONs case, not related to anything Zodiac. The person who posted it is just saying they think Deangelo could have also been Zodiac.
"The 3 girls seen THIS guy.." doesn’t really sound like ‘could’ to me. But don’t want to destroy some illusions.
QT
# ONS / GREENRIVER etc. =/= Zodiac
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"The 3 girls seen THIS guy.." doesn’t really sound like ‘could’ to me.
Pretty sure that just means the guy they saw at the lake, not the guy in the above sketch.
I can’t make out what JJD stands for.
Also, didn’t Bryan Hartnell say the assailant had curly hair?
Last remark, did the 3 girls spoke about a backpack (to transport the hood) or something? And was the man they saw dressed as the one who attacked Hartnell and Shepard?
No, it was Mike Mageau who mentioned curly hair. Bryan and the girls both mention the same type or hair.
Please refer to my first post on page 1. 
“…they may be dealing with one or more ersatz Zodiacs–other psychotics eager to get into the act, or perhaps even other murderers eager to lay their crimes at the real Zodiac’s doorstep.“ L.A. Times, 1969
I didn’t even see this sketch til now and think your right Tahoe. The 3 girls seen this guy longer than anyone in the day light. I’m liking JJD even more now.. that sketch definitely looks like him, even reminded me of this-
The only concern I have for people with blond-ish hair is the fact that darker brown/blackish hair was described. People will find justifications that may be up for consideration, but I believe the guy simply had dark hair. Just my take.
“…they may be dealing with one or more ersatz Zodiacs–other psychotics eager to get into the act, or perhaps even other murderers eager to lay their crimes at the real Zodiac’s doorstep.“ L.A. Times, 1969
Just to clarify, as far as I know the sketch above is unrelated to LB.
The three girls had completely different discriptions of whom they had noticed. there is one very bad sketch, which actually was the result of what they had said.
Please correct me if I am wrong but the sketch posted above is ONS, not Z at LB, true (why posting it in this section)?
http://earonsgsk.proboards.com/thread/1 … sketches-2
Worst (Z) sketch ever:
https://www.zodiacciphers.com/zodiac-ki … -berryessa
Oh, btw, they described him as 28 to 40 years old…thus born fro 1941 to as early as 1929…following Fouke’s (older) description (my estimation is him being born around 1942 to 1944 but that could be wrong..Z indeed could be in his early 90ies – or dead since ~40 years..).
QT
I posted that bc it reminded of the LB sketch Tahoe posted. Yes you are correct, the sketch I posted is from EAR case. Sorry, didn’t try to confuse anyone
