We have to account for the missing 3 hours – either she left the area or she remained there, somewhere, unnoticed. If she left, it wasn’t with her car, hence, it was with someone else.

And since her car was disabled, it was either a stranger or someone she knew but wouldn’t have willingly gone with.

We have to account for the missing 3 hours – either she left the area or she remained there, somewhere, unnoticed. If she left, it wasn’t with her car, hence, it was with someone else.

And since her car was disabled, it was either a stranger or someone she knew but wouldn’t have willingly gone with.

Tampering with her car between the time she arrived to the time she left the library (around 6:15,) in front of the 4 workmen (and other people who were gathering, waiting for the library to open,) would’ve been quite difficult. Abducting her around 6:15 or a few minutes later would’ve been impossible. She fought very hard when her life was in danger and certainly wouldn’t have gone quietly. There were 4 workmen who she could’ve called out to, let alone everyone else gathered by the library.

But even if she had been abducted around 6:30… why would her abductor/killer bring her back to the library alive, and then kill her, giving her the opportunity to fight and scream? That makes no sense to me. He isn’t going to disable her car, kidnap her, hold her against her will for hours, and then release her to report it all, and she would know this. She’d jump out of the car at some point (like Kathleen Johns) or roll down the window and scream like hell when they neared the library or some populated street.

Tampering with her car between the time she arrived to the time she left the library (around 6:15,) in front of the 4 workmen (and other people who were gathering, waiting for the library to open,) would’ve been quite difficult.

There was only one other student waiting for the library to open. Disabling her car would have taken 30-45 seconds max. And I highly doubt the workmen were standing there the whole time staring at Cheri’s car.

Tampering with her car between the time she arrived to the time she left the library (around 6:15,) in front of the 4 workmen (and other people who were gathering, waiting for the library to open,) would’ve been quite difficult.

There was only one other student waiting for the library to open. Disabling her car would have taken 30-45 seconds max. And I highly doubt the workmen were standing there the whole time staring at Cheri’s car.

That’s one small piece of it. I’d love to see a response to the rest of what I posted. Why does the kidnapper return her to the library alive and then kill her, giving her ample opportunity to fight, scream, escape, leave evidence, and so on? Why not kill her in a remote place (he had 3 hours) and avoid all that?

Tampering with her car between the time she arrived to the time she left the library (around 6:15,) in front of the 4 workmen (and other people who were gathering, waiting for the library to open,) would’ve been quite difficult.

There was only one other student waiting for the library to open. Disabling her car would have taken 30-45 seconds max. And I highly doubt the workmen were standing there the whole time staring at Cheri’s car.

That’s one small piece of it. I’d love to see a response to the rest of what I posted. Why does the kidnapper return her to the library alive and then kill her, giving her ample opportunity to fight, scream, escape, leave evidence, and so on? Why not kill her in a remote place (he had 3 hours) and avoid all that?

Agreed. Why abduct her for several hours, then return her to the library and kill her there? Makes no sense.

Tampering with her car between the time she arrived to the time she left the library (around 6:15,) in front of the 4 workmen (and other people who were gathering, waiting for the library to open,) would’ve been quite difficult.

There was only one other student waiting for the library to open. Disabling her car would have taken 30-45 seconds max. And I highly doubt the workmen were standing there the whole time staring at Cheri’s car.

That’s one small piece of it. I’d love to see a response to the rest of what I posted. Why does the kidnapper return her to the library alive and then kill her, giving her ample opportunity to fight, scream, escape, leave evidence, and so on? Why not kill her in a remote place (he had 3 hours) and avoid all that?

He was possibly just a thrill seeker who was willing to take the risk, which would surely support him being Zodiac.

I’d love to see a response to the rest of what I posted. Why does the kidnapper return her to the library alive and then kill her, giving her ample opportunity to fight, scream, escape, leave evidence, and so on? Why not kill her in a remote place (he had 3 hours) and avoid all that?

I have no idea, but that’s apparently what happened. As I posted earlier, Cheri’s killer might have simply been fulfilling a fantasy of killing a beautiful girl in an alley. Film noir/detective magazine stuff. So he abducted her when the opportunity was there and kept her until it was safe to complete the fantasy.

We would have to accept her vehicle was disabled, the abductor was hovering in the location to enable him to strike at the appropriate time and then perform the abduction without anybody noticing, including the 4 workmen (who no doubt, an observant potential murderer would have noticed in the area and realized this wasn’t the ideal time). All between 6:00 and 6:15pm. We would also have to assume that Cheri Jo Bates failed to scream and the abductor failed to realize that abducting or seizing a young woman in the front of a library so close to opening time, when students could have been entering and leaving, wasn’t the ideal opportunity. There would also be no need to disable the vehicle, or wait for her to open the Volkswagen door, roll the window, place the keys in the ignition and place her books on the seat, before he decided to strike.

Were the workmen in that position because they were taking a break from their work?

There would also be no need to disable the vehicle, or wait for her to open the Volkswagen door, roll the window, place the keys in the ignition and place her books on the seat, before he decided to strike.

One could also say there would have been no need to type the confession etc. But he did anyway.

I’d love to see a response to the rest of what I posted. Why does the kidnapper return her to the library alive and then kill her, giving her ample opportunity to fight, scream, escape, leave evidence, and so on? Why not kill her in a remote place (he had 3 hours) and avoid all that?

I have no idea, but that’s apparently what happened. As I posted earlier, Cheri’s killer might have simply been fulfilling a fantasy of killing a beautiful girl in an alley. Film noir/detective magazine stuff. So he abducted her when the opportunity was there and kept her until it was safe to complete the fantasy.

And he didn’t gag her, or tie her hands, to prevent her from screaming, fighting, or escaping? And in all that time he didn’t sexually assault her, or think to obtain a better killing tool than that small knife?

That is not what apparently happened. The 2 scenarios i posited are eminently more plausible.

You are talking about the guy who also possibly did Berryessa, so good luck sticking to a scenario where he is logical and careful etc.

why would her abductor/killer bring her back to the library alive, and then kill her, giving her the opportunity to fight and scream?

Because it was part of his fantasy? You know guys like that are often fantasy driven, right? For all we know he wanted her to fight and scream.

"Yeah, but that wouldn’t have been the way I would have done it."

"Yeah, but that wouldn’t have been the safest most logical way."

Welcome to the world of weirdos.

You are talking about the guy who also possibly did Berryessa, so good luck sticking to a scenario where he is logical and careful etc.

I don’t believe the killer of Cheri was Zodiac, and I don’t believe the clown at LB was Shooter Zodiac.

Your fall back position of "any crazy thing is plausible if we want it to be, because serial killers are unpredictable" is not a reasoned, rational approach.

LOL, so your multiple killer/conspiracy/Horan-inspired theory is reasonable and rational? LMAO

The Berryessa investigators have proof their killer did the shootings. But you know better, eh?

Wowza.