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Thanks Trav !

Funny it was on the very first page of this thread, It’s also the same date as today: Thursday March 28th (2013)

 
Posted : March 28, 2019 11:21 pm
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:D


I don’t know Chief, he’s very smart or very dumb.

 
Posted : March 29, 2019 3:05 am
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Or, more likely, the poem on the desk has absolutely no connection to the Bates murder in any way, shape, or form.

Yeah, some guy or girl turned over the desk to write a poem

 
Posted : January 12, 2021 9:17 pm
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Or, more likely, the poem on the desk has absolutely no connection to the Bates murder in any way, shape, or form.

Yeah, some guy or girl turned over the desk to write a poem

I’m not sure this is sarcasm or not? If it is, what are you implying?

“Murder will out, this my conclusion.”
– Geoffrey Chaucer

 
Posted : January 12, 2021 9:40 pm
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Or, more likely, the poem on the desk has absolutely no connection to the Bates murder in any way, shape, or form.

Yeah, some guy or girl turned over the desk to write a poem

I’m not sure this is sarcasm or not? If it is, what are you implying?

That some depressed kid wrote that for posterity?

 
Posted : January 12, 2021 10:29 pm
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No, I think the writer was using third person.

“Murder will out, this my conclusion.”
– Geoffrey Chaucer

 
Posted : January 12, 2021 11:06 pm
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So what? This is a poem

 
Posted : January 12, 2021 11:13 pm
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I don’t even know what your point is. I’m thoroughly confused on what you’re trying to convey?

Perhaps if you communicated in something other than sarcasm and snide remarks, we might have a respectful discussion about it.

“Murder will out, this my conclusion.”
– Geoffrey Chaucer

 
Posted : January 12, 2021 11:14 pm
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I don’t even know what your point is. I’m thoroughly confused on what you’re trying to convey?

Perhaps if you communicated in something other than sarcasm and snide remarks, we might have a respectful discussion about it.

What sarcasm?
You say that you don’t see any symilarity betwee CBJ letter/Zodiac letter and the poem. So who wrote it? Some depressed kid at the school?

 
Posted : January 12, 2021 11:27 pm
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I don’t know who wrote it. We don’t even know WHEN it was written. It was found under a desk by a custodian in a storage room approximately 6 weeks after the murder.

Moreover, other than Sherwood Morrill, most handwriting experts agreed that it was not the same handwriting as Zodiac. Also the poem pretty clearly describes a suicidal girl rather than a murder.

Lastly, what would be the purpose of writing a poem under a desk that would require sheer luck to find? Zodiac was all about publicity and promotion. If he wrote the poem it is likely he wouldn’t be furtive about it.

“Murder will out, this my conclusion.”
– Geoffrey Chaucer

 
Posted : January 13, 2021 12:14 am
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Chaucer: I suspect the desktop poem was written before Bates’ murder by a young man experiencing emerging homicidal ideation. Had it been written after Bates’ murder the poem would be on top of the desk, and its initials meant to implicate someone the writer disliked.

 
Posted : January 13, 2021 1:23 am
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I don’t know who wrote it. We don’t even know WHEN it was written. It was found under a desk by a custodian in a storage room approximately 6 weeks after the murder.

Moreover, other than Sherwood Morrill, most handwriting experts agreed that it was not the same handwriting as Zodiac. Also the poem pretty clearly describes a suicidal girl rather than a murder.

Lastly, what would be the purpose of writing a poem under a desk that would require sheer luck to find? Zodiac was all about publicity and promotion. If he wrote the poem it is likely he wouldn’t be furtive about it.

No, no if he used to kill before ’68, he was not all about publicity and promotion.That was later. Zodiak from 1969 dosnt have to be the same person/killer as from 1964. Maybe he changed his attitude.

 
Posted : January 13, 2021 1:29 am
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Chaucer: I suspect the desktop poem was written before Bates’ murder by a young man experiencing emerging homicidal ideation. Had it been written after Bates’ murder the poem would be on top of the desk, and its initials meant to implicate someone the writer disliked.

But the poem doesn’t reference a homicide, rather it refers to suicide.

“Murder will out, this my conclusion.”
– Geoffrey Chaucer

 
Posted : January 13, 2021 2:08 am
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Chaucer: I respectfully disagree. A woman generally commits suicide via drugs, not a knife.

 
Posted : January 13, 2021 3:13 am
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Chaucer: I respectfully disagree. A woman generally commits suicide via drugs, not a knife.

I’d like to see data that backs up this assumption.

I think it’s grossly impertinent.

Here is a link in to a thread where I share my interpretation of the poem line by line:

viewtopic.php?f=80&t=4693&p=77519&hilit=poem#p77519

“Murder will out, this my conclusion.”
– Geoffrey Chaucer

 
Posted : January 13, 2021 3:31 am
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