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Things the confirmed Z murders have in common

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For me I’d say he always seemed to set up a situation where he had the victims at a disadvantage – He set up a situation where he had control.

I’ve often thought this was to avoid physical altercation becaude maybe he was at some disadvantage like an injury / disability.

Of course, he was primarily attacking couples – so two ppl could attack him or split up and run…

Your comment its too much interesting, but i dont feel exactly the same.
In Ferrin murder and stein, for sure. In lake herman road, im no sure, the bodie of faraday its to close to the shell casing were dropping (but he could not be pointing with the gun until faraday round the car and was a surprice shoot, ot there other diferent thing in this case, mybe there was no other car park aside and the killer go by feet across some field to their car…) but in lake berriesa there was control but i cannot say that he was avoiding the risk of confrontation.
i preffer link zodiac to domingoes killing than bates, becouse like berriesa is much similar to that, even not been confirmed this its true a very similar modus operandi, and i want to point that even Domingoes murder is less reserched as far we know after been tied posible he get of the ropes and fight and then were shoot down. At least using as a comparation, even been diferent killers, should be said that like berriesa was highly risk and no so sure if it could be said that was advantage position. But also could be said that the target if was not choose until the attack, the ocasion should be taken based in the location, restricted exist by the lake, going up the hill, that is a point in your favor fisherman.

 
Posted : July 1, 2020 12:12 am
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So one oddity I noticed that all the confirmed murders had in common–all of the victims, in one way or another, shouldn’t have been where they were. David Faraday and Betty Lou had an 11 pm curfew for their "first" date. Darleen and Mike–I think she told her babysitter she was going to get firecrackers for a party. I may be wrong about that,but, there are so many theories put forth by people that they were buying pot, etc. Bryan and Cecelia–I read on another site a post from Cecelia’s old roommate that she believed she and Bryan would possibly be getting engaged or married in the future. Bryan had a girlfriend in another state. I can’t help but wonder if Cecelia would have went out with him on a late afternoon picnic if she knew that. And Paul S. left a party to take that cab shift–he wasn’t suppose to be working that evening.
I have no judgement towards any of the victims at all. And I personally believe zodiac trolled sites, not victims. So it strikes me as sad, strange that these young people were at the wrong place at the wrong time.

This is something I noticed as well. If you look at other possible earlier victims, the same applies. Robert Domingoes and Linda Edwards were ditching school when they were killed. Cheri Jo Bates is unaccounted for for several hours on the night of her murder and was known to have been seeing two men at the time. He liked victims in compromised situations. Possibly because he figured there would be less resistance on their part, but also because it would make the crime that much more difficult to investigate.

 
Posted : July 20, 2020 7:35 pm
Randy
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I think it is possible he worked for one of the big newspaper companies in San Francisco, and enjoyed watching his colleagues read and discuss the letters whilst pretending he was as shocked as they were.

Kind of like when Gary Ridgway would leave his victims jewellery lying around his work place, and then revel to himself when one of the female colleagues would wear it.

Interesting!

I would agree that Zodiac might have been in the news paper industry, too.

 
Posted : January 5, 2021 10:46 pm
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I think it is possible he worked for one of the big newspaper companies in San Francisco, and enjoyed watching his colleagues read and discuss the letters whilst pretending he was as shocked as they were.

Kind of like when Gary Ridgway would leave his victims jewellery lying around his work place, and then revel to himself when one of the female colleagues would wear it.

Interesting!

I would agree that Zodiac might have been in the news paper industry, too.

So, no intentional misspellings to throw investigators off then?

 
Posted : February 4, 2021 2:54 am
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…And Paul S. left a party to take that cab shift–he wasn’t suppose to be working that evening.
I have no judgement towards any of the victims at all. And I personally believe zodiac trolled sites, not victims. So it strikes me as sad, strange that these young people were at the wrong place at the wrong time.

Interesting…so his last thought may have been "I’m not even supposed to be here today!"… :shock:

 
Posted : March 14, 2021 9:09 am
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Is it possible a common theme in the murders involved some type of road rage, they all certainly involved vehicles.
Maybe traffic was his trigger. Apparently he knew how to haul ass down lake herman rd at night without crashing,…

I’ve drove lake herman rd several times, it can be annoying driving behind slow people on this rd.
Faraday, Jensen, Ferrin and Mageau could have pissed this guy off while driving down lake herman, driving slow, maybe they got left of center, didn’t use a turn signal…. who knows….
when he decided to turn around and gun them all down.

Zodiac may not have liked how Hartnell parked the car. He parks behind them, walks down hill at an angle off path to observe, prepare, and attack. He leaves a note on the car door as he leaves cause he is still pissed about where the car is parked

Stine may have missed Zodiacs stop on Maple by a block, ending up on Cherry, Zodiac couldn’t keep his cool. Stine was the result. Zodiac walks north on Washington, takes right on Jackson, left onto Maple, which is probably where his apartment was in the small cul-de-sac

maybe he hated driving behind school busses…..

Non confirmed victims…..
Bates: If you believe such things..not saying i don’t…. Her vehicle was obviously tampered with, perhaps she was awful at parking and he lost his cool. She had to go.

Is it true Kathleen Johns vehicle was burned?

Another Zodiac site mentions Ray Davis as an interesting potential victim, another cabby misses the designated stop?

Even Domingos and Edwards, again, i’ve drove that stretch of 101, you pretty much HAVE to be an asshole to park there, of course, it could have been different back then, but it’s a narrow stretch of highway even today.

Zodiac claimed to have shot a man in a parked car… maybe than man parked like an asshole….

I think this guy probably had some road rage but i know this has already been discussed.

Mah-na Mah-na

 
Posted : March 20, 2021 8:10 am
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