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Tahoe27
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11/15/10

Here is a photo of Darlene with an unknown man.
Photo was found in a distant relatives family photos.
It was taken at a relatives house in San Francisco. Year unknown.
Her relatives do not recognize the man.
Darlene’s first husband has said it is definitely not him.
There has been some good discussion of this photo on Toms board
and I thought I would share it here for those who may not be aware of it.

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…they may be dealing with one or more ersatz Zodiacs–other psychotics eager to get into the act, or perhaps even other murderers eager to lay their crimes at the real Zodiac’s doorstep. L.A. Times, 1969

 
Posted : April 3, 2013 9:34 pm
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I see that a person over at Tom’s claims he identified the unknown man as an Edward R that went to schol with her but dropped out. I have my doubts as to whether or not he has the right guy. The guy he identified is 5ft6,and the guy in the pic with Darlene seems to be a few inches taller than her,and she was 5ft5 according to her autopsy. Also, the guy he identified went to another high school altogether was class of 64,and the ONLY other guys in the USA with that same name, were way too old to have gone to school with Darlene.

I think this guy has incorrectly identified the guy in the pic,and I personally think the guy in the pic is Darlene’s former Husband, Jim

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Posted : April 3, 2013 11:56 pm
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I have seen many many theories as to the identity of this male in the picture, everything from Darlene’s ex husband to the rather silly theory of it being Bryan Hartnell.

I thought I read somewhere that this has been confirmed as being Darlene’s ex husband. I have no way of knowing if there’s any truth to this claim as I’ve never seen Darlene’s ex.

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Posted : April 4, 2013 5:42 pm
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If the guy that mentioned him is right, it is good his full name is not mentioned here because he still could be alive today. Morf I agree with you and think it is Jim.

 
Posted : April 5, 2013 1:09 am
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I have seen many many theories as to the identity of this male in the picture, everything from Darlene’s ex husband to the rather silly theory of it being Bryan Hartnell.

I thought I read somewhere that this has been confirmed as being Darlene’s ex husband. I have no way of knowing if there’s any truth to this claim as I’ve never seen Darlene’s ex.

the guy in the photo has a amazing likeness to Darlene’s ex husband.

 
Posted : April 5, 2013 1:11 am
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While no doubt there is a likeliness, I have my doubts it is Jim.

The height if of concern. It was reported, while Jim was in the custody of the PD, he was 5’6". Darlene was 5’5".

Jim seemed to have a much more square face, and this man’s is more elongated. There was an ear issue to.

I will add more photos and comments to this thead…


…they may be dealing with one or more ersatz Zodiacs–other psychotics eager to get into the act, or perhaps even other murderers eager to lay their crimes at the real Zodiac’s doorstep. L.A. Times, 1969

 
Posted : April 5, 2013 1:50 am
Welsh Chappie
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I have seen many many theories as to the identity of this male in the picture, everything from Darlene’s ex husband to the rather silly theory of it being Bryan Hartnell.

I thought I read somewhere that this has been confirmed as being Darlene’s ex husband. I have no way of knowing if there’s any truth to this claim as I’ve never seen Darlene’s ex.

the guy in the photo has a amazing likeness to Darlene’s ex husband.

That’s what I had heard. I’m sure I read that it had been confirmed by someone, maybe Dean Ferrin, but I could be totally wrong about that.

Anyway, this photo has been debated because it’s assumed that the unknown man may be Zodiac. For me, the resemblance goes as far as ‘Horn Rimmed Glasses’. The young man in the photo clearly isn’t the ‘Stocky, big guy’ described by Michael Mageau, or the ‘Stocky, Barrel Chested’ man described by Don Fouke.

"So it’s sorta social. Demented and sad, but social, right?" Judd Nelson.

 
Posted : April 5, 2013 1:51 am
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Jim Crabtree @ left (thx to Sandy)


…they may be dealing with one or more ersatz Zodiacs–other psychotics eager to get into the act, or perhaps even other murderers eager to lay their crimes at the real Zodiac’s doorstep. L.A. Times, 1969

 
Posted : April 5, 2013 1:55 am
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The guy that was identified by the poster on Tom’s site is 5ft6, I know this from a police record he has. The guy in the photo seems to be 5ft8-9

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Posted : April 5, 2013 4:45 am
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If you see the pictures of Jim that Sandy posted compared to the guy with Darlene. IMO that is Jim but with that said I’m still keeping a open mind somewhat.

 
Posted : April 5, 2013 6:48 am
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Jim Crabtree @ left (thx to Sandy)

Thanks Tahoe but it’s even more amazing of the pics Sandy posted.

 
Posted : April 5, 2013 6:50 am
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It’s strange Jim won’t admit to it being him in the pic but maybe he is tired of the whole case and researchers bugging him. Again still keeping a open mind but 95 % think it’s him.

 
Posted : April 5, 2013 6:58 am
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The guy that was identified by the poster on Tom’s site is 5ft6, I know this from a police record he has. The guy in the photo seems to be 5ft8-9

So that’s a stretch there no pun intended! Also can it be proven that this guy even went to Hogan High ? When you look him up all you get is a 80 year old with the same name that passed away. Which for obvious reasons can’t be him if he went to school with Darlene. Anyhow looking forward to seeing a pic of him.

 
Posted : April 5, 2013 7:09 am
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The guy that was identified by the poster on Tom’s site is 5ft6, I know this from a police record he has. The guy in the photo seems to be 5ft8-9

So that’s a stretch there no pun intended! Also can it be proven that this guy even went to Hogan High ? When you look him up all you get is a 80 year old with the same name that passed away. Which for obvious reasons can’t be him if he went to school with Darlene. Anyhow looking forward to seeing a pic of him.

The 80 year old guy was not the right guy. The correct guy was born in 45,and supposedly went to Live oak HS,class of 64.

There is more than one way to lose your life to a killer

http://www.zodiackillersite.com/
http://zodiackillersite.blogspot.com/
https://twitter.com/Morf13ZKS

 
Posted : April 5, 2013 3:43 pm
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The guy that was identified by the poster on Tom’s site is 5ft6, I know this from a police record he has. The guy in the photo seems to be 5ft8-9

So that’s a stretch there no pun intended! Also can it be proven that this guy even went to Hogan High ? When you look him up all you get is a 80 year old with the same name that passed away. Which for obvious reasons can’t be him if he went to school with Darlene. Anyhow looking forward to seeing a pic of him.

The 80 year old guy was not the right guy. The correct guy was born in 45,and supposedly went to Live oak HS,class of 64.

Yes I figured that out early on. As for the poster and the supposed guy that is with Darlene. Seems like the suspect can’t be found and the poster can’t back up his information. Again I believe it is Jim in the pic so not surprised.

 
Posted : April 8, 2013 8:58 am
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