Hi Chaucer,
Theres’s 3 pages of information on Betty Lou & David F., chances are you’ll find your answers on one of the previous thread’s.
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1. I have heard that the seats in the Rambler were reclined – suggesting David and Betty Lou were in an amorous position prior to the ambush. Is this confirmed in police reports or witness accounts? Or is this hearsay?

2. I have heard that the engine to the Rambler was on – mostly due to the need for the heater on a cold night – but was it in gear or was it in park?

3. It seems taken for granted that David was shot facing AWAY from the Ramble. However, his body was found face up suggesting he was shot in the head and collapsed backwards. What is the official scenario on this?

I read the same thing about the front seat being reclined , but it was only a slight recline according to the crime scene photos.
I doubt that the car was in gear, or it would have rolled without having pressure on the break. More than likely the heater was turned on and off again to get some heat. I am pretty sure that those older cars had to be turned on for the heater to work?

I have not read that it was taken for granted that David was facing away from the car when he was shot. One officer said David was getting out of the car when he was shot? If that were true, his body would have been closer to that door and not flat on his back is what I think? ( I understood that he was facing the car.)

My guess is that they were told it was only going to be a robbery and to put their hands on top of the car. There was some blood spatter on David’s right sleeve , which tells me his hands were up. The chalk mark of his body points to him facing the car when he was shot. I believe it was at that point Betty Lou realized it was not just a robbery and ran.

More than likely the heater was turned on and off again to get some heat. I am pretty sure that those older cars had to be turned on for the heater to work?

Those heaters worked from hot water from the engine, so as long as the engine was still warm you could get some heat by just turning on the heater, that could run the battery down though and you’d still have to crank the car occasionally to heat the engine. So they could have just turned the fan on to get heat without the engine running, that would work.

I have not read that it was taken for granted that David was facing away from the car when he was shot. One officer said David was getting out of the car when he was shot? If that were true, his body would have been closer to that door and not flat on his back is what I think? ( I understood that he was facing the car.)

My guess is that they were told it was only going to be a robbery and to put their hands on top of the car. There was some blood spatter on David’s right sleeve , which tells me his hands were up. The chalk mark of his body points to him facing the car when he was shot.

Yes, and he was shot behind his ear, so the shot most likely came from behind him. The one detective said he was holding a ring between his fingers, like he had been told to take it off.

I believe it was at that point Betty Lou realized it was not just a robbery and ran.

I’ve sometimes wondered, since he always went after the men first, if he had other intentions for the women.

I’m just guessing here, Betty ran, so fearing she would get away he had to shoot her, Mageau jumped around and started yelling so he started spraying bullets, and while he had Cecelia tied up, she panicked and started rolling around so he decided to just kill her. Just theorizing that maybe things didn’t go as planned.

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I’ve sometimes wondered, since he always went after the men first, if he had other intentions for the women.

I’m just guessing here, Betty ran, so fearing she would get away he had to shoot her, Mageau jumped around and started yelling so he started spraying bullets, and while he had Cecelia tied up, she panicked and started rolling around so he decided to just kill her. Just theorizing that maybe things didn’t go as planned.
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If you are thinking that Zodiac’s intentions were of a sexual nature for the female’s , he had plenty of time to do that to Cecelia but didn’t. He could have just wounded Betty Lou and taken her with him to rape her. One possible Zodiac victim , Dana Lull in Las Vegas 1974 was taken at gun point by a man described the same as Zodiac, Was found in a mine shaft not raped. That case is still unsolved, I spoke to the male victim in that case and showed him a picture of Larry Kane, he said he looked very much like Dana’s abductor.

As far as we know Zodiac never raped anyone, his intentions were fulfilled by killing his victims, mainly the female. His attacks start with the male , who could cause a problem for him. He is then free to follow through with the rest of his plan which is to kill and get media attention for his crimes. By killing the male first ,causes more fear for the female who then knows what is going to happen to her. Like at Lake Berryessa, even though Bryan asked him to stab him first.

Blue Rock was more of a blitz attack, not much time for fear. The flash light may have had two purposes ? One being he could see the fear in their faces as he shot them, the other to prevent them from getting a good look at him in case they survived? ( I am also theorizing ).

If you are thinking that Zodiac’s intentions were of a sexual nature for the female’s ,

No, I don’t mean that, just that he perhaps planned on kidnapping them and killing them elsewhere. Just a stupid thought I had.