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2010 Chat w/woman who claimed to work @ Sahara

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Tahoe27
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Thanks to Tracers!

She was in chat one evening and a lady by the name of "Judy" joined in. This information was provided to LE and they did follow up on it.

Here is a transcript:

judy says to (16:25:27):
I worked at sahara tahoe in 1970….I knew the nurse that disappeared
tracers says (16:25:42):
you did
tracers says (16:25:50):
why are you afraid after so many years
judy says to (16:26:51):
I saw who she was talking to the night she disappeared, and the police sketch looks exactly like him. Afraid he is still out there
tracers says (16:27:09):
where was she talking to him?
tracers says (16:27:14):
and what time?
judy says to (16:27:24):
at the doorway to her office
tracers says (16:27:26):
it looked like the guy from the composite?
tracers says (16:27:26):
wow
judy says to (16:27:32):
yes
tracers says (16:27:52):
did they look like they knew each other or did it seem professional?
judy says to (16:28:13):
knowing him he was trying to pick up on her
tracers says (16:28:28):
oh did you know the guy from before then?
tracers says (16:28:41):
had he hung around did he work there too?
judy says to (16:29:01):
I was a camera girl there, and he was the lab tech…we had to pass by her office to get to the showroom
tracers says (16:29:19):
he did the blood work stuff then?
tracers says (16:29:27):
or the camera stuff?
judy says to (16:29:32):
no it was a photo lab
tracers says (16:29:35):
ahh ok
tracers says (16:29:42):
what was his name?
tracers says (16:29:53):
did the police ever look into him?
judy says to (16:29:54):
Xxxx Xxxxxx
tracers says (16:30:21):
did he seem normal or weird?
judy says to (16:30:35):
I once got a written list of things to buy at the photo shop for him that he wrote in 1970
judy says to (16:31:36):
years later I turned it into stockton pd
tracers says (16:31:42):
good
tracers says (16:32:08):
no one is even sure her disappearance is a zodiac crime
tracers says (16:32:15):
but something hapened to her for sure
judy says to (16:32:30):
Right after that, a letter from the zodiac arrived at sfpd….later found to be a fake to try to draw him out
judy says to (16:32:41):
yes I know
tracers says (16:32:44):
ahh
tracers says (16:33:04):
the 1978 letter?
judy says to (16:33:07):
it was maybe a coincidence that this man looks like the sketch
tracers says (16:33:09):
april 1978?
judy says to (16:33:29):
I belive that was around the time I turned the letter in
tracers says (16:33:35):
well it could have been zodiac or not so hard that sketch looks like a lot of guys from back then
judy says to (16:33:49):
he made my hair stand on end
tracers says (16:33:51):
crew cut and glasses
tracers says (16:33:54):
why?
judy says to (16:33:55):
yes
tracers says (16:33:58):
ws he creepy?
judy says to (16:34:11):
he creeped all the girls out
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tracers says (16:35:12):
why
judy says to (16:35:19):
I could really be wrong, but have spent all these years frightened as hell….I was betting that the unibomber was not him as well as that guy in vallejo
tracers says (16:35:43):
ah
judy says to (16:35:49):
there was just something scarey about him…none of us could put our fingers on it
tracers says (16:36:11):
well often people are right when they sense those things
judy says to (16:36:21):
I didn’t put it together till a year later when I saw the sketch
judy says to (16:36:54):
I just watched cold case files which got me started again
tracers says (16:37:03):
ahhok yeah
tracers says (16:37:07):
the a and e show
tracers says (16:37:16):
that one was pretty good
judy says to (16:37:22):
not sure what channel
tracers says (16:37:41):
well cold case files originated on a and e but it plays on some other channels now
tracers says (16:37:45):
repeats
judy says to (16:37:53):
anyway, while we knew him, he made frequent trips to the bay area from tahoe
tracers says (16:38:07):
when did you know him what years?
judy says to (16:38:33):
during the year of 1970
tracers says (16:38:35):
did he leave tahoe for good?
tracers says (16:38:39):
aqhhok
tracers says (16:38:45):
i see not a long period of time
judy says to (16:39:00):
I don’t know…I quit my job and moved to northern californnia
tracers says (16:39:05):
ahh ok
tracers says (16:39:46):
very sstrange case
tracers says (16:40:00):
some man calls in and says she is sick and won’t be at work
judy says to (16:40:13):
yes it is…sometimes I just think about it and get scared all over again
tracers says (16:40:25):
yeah i understand
judy says to (16:40:41):
she didn’t have a boyfriend or any relatives in area
tracers says (16:40:46):
right
judy says to (16:41:12):
she seemed a bit of a loner
tracers says (16:41:13):
how awful for her family to neverknow what happened to her
judy says to (16:41:45):
very nice…used to chat with her during breaks
tracers says (16:41:58):
ahh that is good she had a great smile
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judy says to (16:42:53):
did you know her
tracers says (16:43:16):
no i saw her pictures
tracers says (16:43:19):
hi craey
tracers says (16:43:22):
carey
carey says to (16:43:27):
hi tracers
judy says to (16:43:53):
whew just had a terrible thought…so sorry
tracers says (16:44:01):
so creepy to know that someone you know vanished and someone else you know might have done it
tracers says (16:44:11):
what did you think?
woodenigloo says to (16:44:30):
wb carey
woodenigloo says to (16:44:34):
hi tracers!!!!!
woodenigloo says to (16:44:37):
Hi Judy
judy says to (16:44:38):
I didn’t even put it together until a year later
tracers says (16:44:45):
hi wood i have to leave for my dr appt in a few minutes
tracers says (16:44:46):
ughh
woodenigloo says to (16:44:55):
ahhh ok
tracers says (16:44:59):
togther?
tracers says (16:45:10):
you mean he was creepy and could have been involved?
woodenigloo says to tracers (private) (16:45:16):
don’t forget to ask him about your adrenal glands
woodenigloo says to tracers (private) (16:45:18):
lol
tracers says to woodenigloo (private) (16:45:25):
ok
tracers says to woodenigloo (private) (16:45:26):
thanks
woodenigloo says to tracers (private) (16:45:30):
;)
woodenigloo says to tracers (private) (16:45:31):
lol
judy says to (16:45:34):
i didn’t figure out the connection until I saw the sketch a year later
tracers says (16:46:09):
wel no one wants to think someone they know coul dbe a serial killer or even killer of just one
tracers says (16:46:22):
don’t feel bad
tracers says (16:46:37):
ok sorry folk got a run i have a dr appt
judy says to (16:46:38):
sorry…just creeped out after that cold case file
tracers says (16:46:42):
thanks for talking judy
judy says to (16:46:46):
bye and thanks
tracers says (16:46:49):
hope to talk to you again soon!


…they may be dealing with one or more ersatz Zodiacs–other psychotics eager to get into the act, or perhaps even other murderers eager to lay their crimes at the real Zodiac’s doorstep. L.A. Times, 1969

 
Posted : August 14, 2013 12:10 am
Tahoe27
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For the record, the man did exist and there are still family ties to the area. The name will not be disclosed.

Zodiac did know photographs could be traced. ;)


…they may be dealing with one or more ersatz Zodiacs–other psychotics eager to get into the act, or perhaps even other murderers eager to lay their crimes at the real Zodiac’s doorstep. L.A. Times, 1969

 
Posted : August 14, 2013 12:13 am
traveller1st
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Zodiac did know photographs could be traced. ;)

My thought too as I read that. Wow, certainly interesting and thanks to Tracers.


I don’t know Chief, he’s very smart or very dumb.

 
Posted : August 14, 2013 1:22 am
Zamantha
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For the record, the man did exist and there are still family ties to the area. The name will not be disclosed.

Zodiac did know photographs could be traced. ;)

Thanks for sharing to Tracers.
So was this guy totally researched then & looked into as much as possible? And if so, what more was found out? Too bad the caller didn’t leave return contact information. It’s like one of these tipsters has to have the right guy!?

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Posted : August 14, 2013 1:52 am
Tahoe27
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For the record, the man did exist and there are still family ties to the area. The name will not be disclosed.

Zodiac did know photographs could be traced. ;)

Thanks for sharing to Tracers.
So was this guy totally researched then & looked into as much as possible? And if so, what more was found out? Too bad the caller didn’t leave return contact information. It’s like one of these tipsters has to have the right guy!?

Actually, the fact this person didn’t come back or post about this guy on message boards over and over is what is a bit MORE intriguing. She said what she needed to say and that was that. She admitted to contacting the police in Modesto herself…whether she did or not, who knows? But, there was truth in the matter as far as her "guy" and he did live in the South Lake Tahoe area and was of the right age to have possibly worked with Donna.

I also know for a fact they did have photographers who worked there and would take your photograph (at shows, etc.) and you could later pick it up.

I can tell you the South Lake Tahoe police did further research this matter, but they aren’t too fond of discussing results. ;)


…they may be dealing with one or more ersatz Zodiacs–other psychotics eager to get into the act, or perhaps even other murderers eager to lay their crimes at the real Zodiac’s doorstep. L.A. Times, 1969

 
Posted : August 14, 2013 3:12 am
traveller1st
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Was the guy’s head shaped like a grocery bag? That would be a dead giveaway.


I don’t know Chief, he’s very smart or very dumb.

 
Posted : August 14, 2013 3:41 am
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I think this guy moved to NC or SC.

There is more than one way to lose your life to a killer

http://www.zodiackillersite.com/
http://zodiackillersite.blogspot.com/
https://twitter.com/Morf13ZKS

 
Posted : August 14, 2013 5:02 am
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Does his name match the my-name-is-cipher somehow? Thx.

QT

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Posted : August 14, 2013 12:24 pm
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Does his name match the my-name-is-cipher somehow? Thx.

QT

No,it does not. His full name with middle initial is only 12 spaces, the ‘my name is’ cipher is 13 spaces.

There is more than one way to lose your life to a killer

http://www.zodiackillersite.com/
http://zodiackillersite.blogspot.com/
https://twitter.com/Morf13ZKS

 
Posted : August 14, 2013 3:05 pm
morf13
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For the record, the man did exist and there are still family ties to the area. The name will not be disclosed.

Zodiac did know photographs could be traced. ;)

Tahoe, when you said he had Family ties in the area, does he have a 48 year old son there? Just want to make sure I have the right guy. If I do,he is in his 70’s and living in NC or SC.

I was worried about the spelling of his last name,and if it was off a letter or two. That last name may be misspelled if she was going from memory

There is more than one way to lose your life to a killer

http://www.zodiackillersite.com/
http://zodiackillersite.blogspot.com/
https://twitter.com/Morf13ZKS

 
Posted : August 14, 2013 4:37 pm
Tahoe27
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For the record, the man did exist and there are still family ties to the area. The name will not be disclosed.

Zodiac did know photographs could be traced. ;)

Tahoe, when you said he had Family ties in the area, does he have a 48 year old son there? Just want to make sure I have the right guy. If I do,he is in his 70’s and living in NC or SC.

I was worried about the spelling of his last name,and if it was off a letter or two. That last name may be misspelled if she was going from memory

He may have very well moved on morf. There is also another tie to "Markleeville"…just past Lake Tahoe areas. :)


…they may be dealing with one or more ersatz Zodiacs–other psychotics eager to get into the act, or perhaps even other murderers eager to lay their crimes at the real Zodiac’s doorstep. L.A. Times, 1969

 
Posted : August 14, 2013 6:39 pm
Welsh Chappie
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While I understand the reasons for names needing to remain confidential, it is nevertheless the most frustrating and annoying thing that I have always listed as a pet hate of mine :-)

It reminds me of Facebook status updates that say something like

Status: "OMG just had some news and it is absolutely Earth Shattering"
Your Reply: "Really, what is it?"
Status reply: "Sorry, I can’t/won’t tell you."

Sorry T, I don’t mean any offence by that nor do I criticise the thread. I think it frustrates me when the most vital details are withheld because I like to know everything :-)

But I understand and fully accept that names have to be kept off public boards sometimes to protect the individual, but it doesn’t make it any less frustrating.

PS. Can I tempt you with a $5 Paypal donation? Obviously this wouldn’t be considered bribery. I am simply offering to pay you for information. :lol:

"So it’s sorta social. Demented and sad, but social, right?" Judd Nelson.

 
Posted : August 16, 2013 12:42 am
traveller1st
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I heard his name was Zodia C Killier.


I don’t know Chief, he’s very smart or very dumb.

 
Posted : August 16, 2013 1:15 am
Tahoe27
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I totally–wait, scratch that, COMPLETELY understand Smithy. 8-)


…they may be dealing with one or more ersatz Zodiacs–other psychotics eager to get into the act, or perhaps even other murderers eager to lay their crimes at the real Zodiac’s doorstep. L.A. Times, 1969

 
Posted : August 16, 2013 2:29 am
smithy
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I totally–wait, scratch that, COMPLETELY understand Smithy. 8-)

You’re in a group of one there, T., a true minority. But wait – have you perhaps mistaken me for a young Welshman? Say it ain’t so! :P

 
Posted : August 16, 2013 2:37 am
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