Might be the common ancestor, Emmett township is 10-20 mile~ from sioux falls, maybe useful info.

Question for all> Someone(Zodiac or not)mailed the Xmas card to Donna Lass’s sister Mary Pilker 4 years after Donna vanished. I am curious why then? Why that time?
Also, it was postmarked from Alameda County. Assuming for a second that the person that mailed it in CA did NOT know Mary Pilker, how easy would it be to find her address in SD? Could they simply call an operator and ask for a mailing address? (I am curious how people found out about people across the country in pre-internet days)
As far as the timing, Mary’s name and photo WAS published in 1970 CA newspapers regarding Donna’s case, but NOT her address in SD. I did find a publishing of Mary’s address in Aril 1974 in a SD newspaper 8 months before the letter though I doubt someone in CA would be able to have access to that newspaper in order to mail Mary a card, but the timing was interesting

Donna’s Uncle

There is a photo of Wayne Francis Lass available at ancestry

There is a photo of Wayne Francis Lass DOB: 27 Jul 1936 DOD: 14 JUN 1999
(The WFL who was married to the Vallejo Donna Lass) available at ancestry.

I am not sure how to transfere the photo from Ancestry to this forum.

So someone else, please go to Ancestry :

Klick on: search
Chose: All collection
Chose the space: Keyword

And in there type in:
"Wayne Lass in Hawaii"

And I know it is the right Wayne Francis Lass because it is one of his grandchildren who posted it.
Same grandchild have a photo on her facebook of the Vallejo Donna Lass, who is her grandmother.

Of possible interest:
Vallejo Donna Lea Lass sister Shirley died in Vallejo in 1976 only 38 years old.

Donna Lea Lass had a sister, Shirley A Winters nee Shirley Ann Young, DOB:11 Sep 1938
Shirley died 26 Jun 1976 in Vallejo only 38 years old !!!
I have not been able to find her cause of death, anyone know?

Shirley divorced her husband Donald W Winters March 1975

Here you go. How is Donna Lass of Vallejo listed as her sister?? Even if they mean Wayne Lass’s wife, that would be her cousin’s wife, and Wayne is not listed. Something odd here

Mary Pilkner can’t be Donna’s sister if Eugene Lass is her uncle Mary is Eugene’s sister.

But then there’s a Donna lass in Vallejo after Donna lass disappears? Is Donna lass really missing?

Mary Pilkner can’t be Donna’s sister if Eugene Lass is her uncle Mary is Eugene’s sister.

But then there’s a Donna lass in Vallejo after Donna lass disappears? Is Donna lass really missing?

Something is off. Mary Pilker is definitely Donna Lass’s(the missing nurse)sister, I have talked to Mary’s son/Donna’s nephew

There’s 2 Mary Pilkers.

Donna has a sister named Mary who marries a Pilker
And the two sisters have a Aunty Mary (Nee Lass Eugene’s sister) who also married a Pilker many years prior.
The two Mary lass’s married Pilker’s, ok. It’s a Small town, I suppose.

Does that work for everyone?

Thank you Soze for posting that photo for me

You are welcome.

morf13 said;
…"Also, it was postmarked from Alameda County. Assuming for
a second that the person that mailed it in CA did NOT know
Mary Pilker, how easy would it be to find her address in SD?
Could they simply call an operator and ask for a mailing address?"

Seagull had Tahoe27 post these years back;


http://www.zodiackillersite.com/viewtop … 110&t=1193

Wiki;
Beresford’s population in 1970 =1655 , in 1980 =1865,
Sioux Falls population in 1970 =72488 , in 1980 =81182 .
Beresford is about 50km south of Sioux Falls and about 70km
northwest of Sioux City, the main regional cities nearby.

How many listed M./Mary Pilker’s could there be in the respective
phone books, 1974, that the SD area operator would consult?
I can’t cite any specific film/TV example, but I believe operator’s
that era when queried, had no problem stating a listed address in
the phone book to ensure they were giving you the correct desired
person’s phone number.

There is a photo of Wayne Francis Lass available at ancestry

There is a photo of Wayne Francis Lass DOB: 27 Jul 1936 DOD: 14 JUN 1999
(The WFL who was married to the Vallejo Donna Lass) available at ancestry.

I am not sure how to transfere the photo from Ancestry to this forum.

So someone else, please go to Ancestry :

Klick on: search
Chose: All collection
Chose the space: Keyword

And in there type in:
"Wayne Lass in Hawaii"

And I know it is the right Wayne Francis Lass because it is one of his grandchildren who posted it.
Same grandchild have a photo on her facebook of the Vallejo Donna Lass, who is her grandmother.

Of possible interest:
Vallejo Donna Lea Lass sister Shirley died in Vallejo in 1976 only 38 years old.

Donna Lea Lass had a sister, Shirley A Winters nee Shirley Ann Young, DOB:11 Sep 1938
Shirley died 26 Jun 1976 in Vallejo only 38 years old !!!
I have not been able to find her cause of death, anyone know?

Shirley divorced her husband Donald W Winters March 1975

Here you go. How is Donna Lass of Vallejo listed as her sister?? Even if they mean Wayne Lass’s wife, that would be her cousin’s wife, and Wayne is not listed. Something odd here

Morf, you seem to be mixing up things in this thread lately, also you don’t seem to read the info provided properly,
and then you post several post doubting the info provided by several posters.

To avoid further "Donna" confusion in this thread please:
ALWAYS write Vallejo Donna when talking about the Donna Lea Lass, nee young (born 1941)
this person who is NOT the disappeared Donna Ann Lass (born 1944).

Morf, I DID explain that Vallejo Donna Lea Lass, nee Young (born 1941), and Shirley Ann Winters, nee young, was sisters.

But ok, here is more info on the matter:

Donna Lea Young
in the California Birth Index, 1905-1995
Name: Donna Lea Young
Birth Date: 8 Jul 1941
Gender: Female
Mother’s Maiden Name: Albany
Birth County: Solano

Shirley Ann Young
in the California Birth Index, 1905-1995
Name: Shirley Ann Young
Birth Date: 11 Sep 1938
Gender: Female
Mother’s Maiden Name: Albany
Birth County: Solano

Could not find Shirley Ann Young and Donald W Winters marriage record,
But here is their divorce record:

Donald W Winters
in the California, U.S., Divorce Index, 1966-1984
Name: Donald W Winters born 1938
Spouse Name: Shirley A Young born 1938
Location: Solano
Date: Mar 1975
Married: 1957

And here is info so that you can see that it is the right Shirley Ann Winters nee Young, sister of Vallejo Donna Lea Lass nee young:

Att her ancestry "All Family Trees results for Shirley Young" this, among much other, info is found:

Shirley Ann Young
1938–1976
BIRTH 11 SEP 1938 • Vallejo, Solano, California, USA
DEATH 26 JUN 1976 • Vallejo, Solano, California, USA

Marriage
25 Jul 1957
Golden Shield Hall, Vallejo, Solano County, California, USA

Birth of Son Daniel Richard Winters(1959–1959)
14 Aug 1959 • Vallejo, Solano, California, USA

Death of Son Daniel Richard Winters(1959–1959)
03 Dec 1959 • Vallejo, Solano, California, USA

Divorce
Mar 1975 • Vallejo, Solano, California, USA
Private
1 Source

There is a photo of Wayne Francis Lass available at ancestry

There is a photo of Wayne Francis Lass DOB: 27 Jul 1936 DOD: 14 JUN 1999
(The WFL who was married to the Vallejo Donna Lass) available at ancestry.

I am not sure how to transfere the photo from Ancestry to this forum.

So someone else, please go to Ancestry :

Klick on: search
Chose: All collection
Chose the space: Keyword

And in there type in:
"Wayne Lass in Hawaii"

And I know it is the right Wayne Francis Lass because it is one of his grandchildren who posted it.
Same grandchild have a photo on her facebook of the Vallejo Donna Lass, who is her grandmother.

Of possible interest:
Vallejo Donna Lea Lass sister Shirley died in Vallejo in 1976 only 38 years old.

Donna Lea Lass had a sister, Shirley A Winters nee Shirley Ann Young, DOB:11 Sep 1938
Shirley died 26 Jun 1976 in Vallejo only 38 years old !!!
I have not been able to find her cause of death, anyone know?

Shirley divorced her husband Donald W Winters March 1975

Foreigner, was it you or Seagull or someone reliable that discovered this info? I knew about Wayne Lass, but did not know about her sister. What are the chances that a woman who goes missing in another part of CA or even in NV, has multiple family members in Vallejo- the town where Zodiac appears to operate out of, and then low and behold he connects himself to her case?

What info I found concerning this threads subject is this:

The photo of Wayne Francis Lass.

And that the Vallejo Donna Lea Lass (nee Young) had a sister named Shirley Ann Winters nee Young, DOB:11 Sep 1938
And that the sister Shirley died died in Vallejo in 1976 only 38 years old.

Then today I also provided more explanation on the sisters Vallejo Donna and Shirley, both nee Young.

There is a photo of Wayne Francis Lass available at ancestry

There is a photo of Wayne Francis Lass DOB: 27 Jul 1936 DOD: 14 JUN 1999
(The WFL who was married to the Vallejo Donna Lass) available at ancestry.

I am not sure how to transfere the photo from Ancestry to this forum.

So someone else, please go to Ancestry :

Klick on: search
Chose: All collection
Chose the space: Keyword

And in there type in:
"Wayne Lass in Hawaii"

And I know it is the right Wayne Francis Lass because it is one of his grandchildren who posted it.
Same grandchild have a photo on her facebook of the Vallejo Donna Lass, who is her grandmother.

Of possible interest:
Vallejo Donna Lea Lass sister Shirley died in Vallejo in 1976 only 38 years old.

Donna Lea Lass had a sister, Shirley A Winters nee Shirley Ann Young, DOB:11 Sep 1938
Shirley died 26 Jun 1976 in Vallejo only 38 years old !!!
I have not been able to find her cause of death, anyone know?

Shirley divorced her husband Donald W Winters March 1975

Foreigner, was it you or Seagull or someone reliable that discovered this info? I knew about Wayne Lass, but did not know about her sister. What are the chances that a woman who goes missing in another part of CA or even in NV, has multiple family members in Vallejo- the town where Zodiac appears to operate out of, and then low and behold he connects himself to her case?

Morf, take a look; here you wrote -"I knew about Wayne Lass, but did not know about her sister"
And that makes no sense bc Wayne is a man but you say her sister, se what I mean.
So who is "her in"her sister"?

Then you go on saying: "What are the chances that a woman who goes missing in another part of CA or even in NV, has multiple family members in Vallejo- the town where Zodiac appears to operate out of, and then low and behold he connects himself to her case?" something that neither make any sense, at least not to me.

I mean what "multiple family members in Vallejo-" are you refering to that disappeared Donna Lass has in Vallejo ? I ask bc the only person in question that seem to be a Vallejo family member to diappeared Donna Lass is Wayne Francis Lass whom disappeared Donna Lass seem to share a great grandfather with.

And then you wrote; -"and then low and behold he connects himself to her case?" and I ask WHO do you mean "connects himself to her case" ? did you mean Wayne Francis Lass ? bc if you do PLEASE write his name so we know who you are talking about especially when you just previously wrote "has multiple family members in Vallejo"

It is all so VERY confusing !

Foreigner, the confusion from this original post from you:

"Of possible interest: Vallejo Donna Lea Lass sister Shirley died in Vallejo in 1976 only 38 years old.
Donna Lea Lass had a sister, Shirley A Winters nee Shirley Ann Young, DOB:11 Sep 1938
Shirley died 26 Jun 1976 in Vallejo only 38 years old !!!
I have not been able to find her cause of death, anyone know?
Shirley divorced her husband Donald W Winters March 1975"

I missed the word LEA in the sentence "Donna Lea Lass sister Shirley died in Vallejo" and thought it said ANN, sorry for the confusion. Still, this is Wayne’s wife Donna Lea which makes Shirley not related at all to missing Donna Ann Lass, unless you consider being married to a cousin related….sorry carry on

No matter what, a first cousin of missing Donna Ann Lass living in Vallejo is interesting, especially if it can be determined that missing Donna Ann Lass went to visit that cousin in Vallejo or spent time there

Morf, the missing Donna Lass and Wayne Lass wouldn’t have been first cousins since their nearest common relative was a great grandfather. They would be second cousins. Did Mary Pilker, Donna’s sister that spent a lot of time and money trying to locate her, ever mention Wayne Lass? I do not recall that Wayne is mentioned in any reports or newspaper articles. I’d think that Wayne would have been a good local contact for both Donna’s family and LE if they had any kind of a relationship.