This may seem like a silly question but, would it be likely that Tahoe, NV would have had snow in Aug/Sept for anyone to bury a body beneath? According to a Weather report for Reno & Tahoe, NV in 1970 the following was the case:

1. The longest warm spell was from August 9 to August 31, constituting 23 consecutive days with warmer than average high temperatures.
2. The longest spell of clear weather was from July 16 to September 5, constituting 52 consecutive days that were clearer than they were cloudy.
3. The longest dry spell was from September 5 to October 18, constituting 44 consecutive days with no observed precipitation. (Meaning Rain, Snow, Hail etc)
4. The first reported snow fall in 1970 was on October 26; the last was on April 27.

As far as I have been able to determine, with Lass going missing in Sept, and the first reported Snow fall being the end of October, he had probably buried her before the snow fall in October of 1970. Here is a graph showing the snow fall in Nevada for the year 1970:

Well done..so it must be related to the postcard..

QT

By the time the postcard was dropped off, it was Winter.

It just came to mind that pine boards have holes called knot holes that you can peek through! I wondered if this could be a clue as the postcard has a big hole punched in it and tells us to peek through the pines. Wondering if there could be a Knothole, Nevada (possible burial site?) I Googled and found there was an Operation Knothole having to do with nuclear testing in the 1950’s.

I will try to check Google maps later when I have more time as I’m wondering if this area would be accessible to the public and if so, was it when Donna was abducted. I’m curious as to how far from the location shown on the postcard it would be and if radians would have anything to do with it but don’t think I’d be able to calculate that as my math skills are a little rusty and I don’t have a protractor.

I also see on the postcard that Zodiac placed his circle with the cross near the hole on the card and it could resemble a knot if you looked at it with that in mind.

Also there was a television program called "Knot’s Landing" IIRC but never watched it myself.

The idea of a hole punch pinpointing her burial site has been discussed.

I just don’t see how it could point to anything specific. It could be interpreted in so many ways/locations.

One site was considered, but thanks to theForeigner, the markings at the site were determined to be a YMCA symbol:

……I belive Harvey Hines misread what he found, I belive what he found was a YMCA "Ragger’s Point"

Here is info and an image of  a YMCA "Ragger’s Point":

http://ymcablueridgeassembly.wordpress. … f-the-rag/

The Story of the Rag

August 15, 2011 by YMCA BLUE RIDGE ASSEMBLY

Quote:

Ragger’s Points, permanent fixtures at YMCA camps across the country, are sites where Rag ceremonies are conducted. They are sacred locations to Y members seeking to become better leaders and make a lifelong commitment to Christian service. The YMCA Rags Program is over 90 years old and still used today as a tool to promote youth development in mind, body, and spirit.

Blaine Wheeler and Stefan Dudziak of the Christian Values Conference were inspired to build the Ragger’s Point at Blue Ridge. They chose a secluded spot a short distance from the Blue Ridge Center and Weatherford’s gravesite, in a wooded area between the two main roads. According to the CLC, it is important for a Ragger’s Point to be in a remote setting of natural beauty, “a setting created by God, not man.”

To construct the traditional Rag emblem Blaine and Stefan gathered rocks of various sizes and colors from around Assembly grounds. The design of the Rag Society symbol incorporates 4 well-known shapes, each representing the values of the Program: the triangle (representing the YMCA triad of spirit, mind and body); the square- to signify the four-square life of a Ragger (spiritual, mental, physical and social); the circle representing the circle of friendship amongst Raggers; and the cross symbolizing the Christian faith. The central cross for Blue Ridge’s Ragger’s Point features several large pieces of magnificent white quartz.

Quote:

The YMCA’s Rags Program began in 1914 at a Y summer camp in what is now Camp Loma Mar in the foothills of the Santa Cruz Mountains of California.

Here you can see the YMCA symbol identical to the YMCA "Ragger’s Point"

I was up late last night and I came across unsolved mysteries the date was September 6, 1970 about a young nurse that worked at the Sheraton. Now, a post card was sent to The San Francisco Chronicle I believe. It said, in plain sight well hidden. Most,Serial killers like to return to the site of the murder and where the body is buried. I’ve tryed to brake down the words that were used. First in plain sight that means he had to have somewhere comfortable to sit and not far to walk so there must be benches tables close in proximity to where she is. Also,well hidden,it is almost a double meaning. Well is water hidden by water so by looking at the photograph my interpretation would be that she is near the water line but she is well hidden when the water comes over her. When it rains the water rises and when the earth moves the water goes in land and goes back out to the lake. So, she is in plain sight but will hidden. And, she is where he can sit undisturbed in plain sight and you can see where she is buried. Lass, could very well be. With in walking distance from the highway. Have they ever use cadaver dogs to walk along the waters edge I m not sure if Decomposition can still be detected by cadaver dogs are not after this long 46 years.

One more Thought comes to mind you have to have a photograph around September 1970 so you can see where the water line was prior to a rain or freeze. This will determine where about her remains would be maybe around 3 feet where the waterline was on Sept/6/1970 the day before Lass turned up missing. Guesstimation 5 possibly 6 feet deep. Sand is soft and easy to dig quickly. It’s just a Theory.

Well, if she is hidden in plain sight past the pines, could she be in a tree? The eye looking out from the piney knot hole in the Halloween card makes me think of this. Who knows – It could be anything like Tahoe said. I remember a case once in which a guy murdered 2 women and 2 kids and put their bodies in a hollowed out tree. That guy worked in landscaping/forestry. I think Soze was interested in some sort of lumberjack angle for Zodiac… This theory of mine that maybe Lass was in a tree might flow well with that lumberjack theory. I need to look up that case again about the people in the tree. Also sorry Soze if it wasn’t you that was interested in lumberjack angle, but I could have sworn it was.

Edit: found that case info. It was 3 people’s body parts he put in the hollowed tree. The other child was found alive thank god.

http://www.nbcnews.com/id/40258902/ns/u … llow-tree/

Also think of the possible play on words… Halloween… Hallowed…hollowed out tree. And the importance of trees in paganism as well as Christmas.

Btw the images that were found by seagull are coming up as ads I can’t see them.

The images for those articles are coming up on the SF Chronicle Chronological thread.

http://www.zodiackillersite.com/viewtop … 110&t=1193

I’ll try to fix them tomorrow on this thread.

I did ask about logging in an attempt to connect it to the father of my person of interest. That’s probably where you got tthat from.

For clarity: I started out picking up on little hints in the Zodiac letters that related to the national park service. From there it led to figuring out that Roosevelt (daddy to the park service) was fluent in the letters more so than the park service. Meaning it wasn’t the park service that was important it was Roosevelt. Frankly, my theory, is that the Zodiac was a genealogical killer.

Donna Lass, based on the Zodiacs traits, is in Yosemite.

Soze

I’ll always think it’s interesting that in 1968 the 50 was widened. The Sierra at Tahoe was around the area of the 50 roadwork in 68 and would have also been around that area when Lass disappeared (I believe with its ski lifts) at the time. The 50 being Lincoln highway and the Lincoln stamp always have interested me. Just noting here. Need to go read up on theories now.

At any rate the hole punch around the pine stand and the Halloween card with the eye behind the pine knot interest me greatly. The other victim’s body being found savagely beaten at the Sierra foothills around that time also is strange. If he murdered lass and left her body out behind a pine stand property (Christmas trees?) then I worry predatory activity may have carried her remains away before anyone found them. Her remains could have been scattered and lost BC of predators/weather. Could be in a hollowed out tree around there "in plain sight". Could be buried behind the pine stand. Who knows.

I’ll say that I think the paraDICE (casino) reference and skeleton having (seemingly IMO) snake eyes on the Halloween card make me think he was pointing toward S Lake Tahoe and Lass. Sometimes I wonder if he wanted LE to find Lass’s last name in the word "SLAveS" that crosses "ParaDICE" and perhaps that is why he employed the narrative of Slaves – simply to offer up a cryptic clue to LE in a way with the letters of Donna’s surname "Lass" in "SLAveS"

I also wonder if the location and circumstances of the other victim found in the Sierra foothills, Judith Ann Hakari, are similar to how he disposed of Donna?

"The Sacramento County Sheriff’s Department website lists the death of Judith Ann Hakari as one of the homicide cases being re-evaluated by its Cold Case Investigations Unit.

Hakari, a 23-year-old nurse, was last seen leaving work at Sutter Memorial Hospital at 11:30 p.m. March 7, 1970. She never made it to her apartment, but her vehicle was found in her apartment complex parking lot at Alta Arden and Markston Way. Investigators believe she was abducted from the parking lot.

On April 25, 1970, hikers who paused to look at an old mine near Weimar in Placer County were startled to see a human knee protruding from the ground. Investigators dug up Hakari’s body. She reportedly had been beaten and strangled.

Have a Sacto 911 question? Submit it here.

Read more here: http://blogs.sacbee.com/crime/archives/ … rylink=cpy

Additionally, if Ms. Hakari’s knee one was protruding from the ground after being buried either the grave was too shallow or some animals/the environment had begun to unearth it – possibly both. This doesn’t leave much hope for Donna’s remains also still being intact after all this time in the grave where they were left IF she was disposed of in a similar manner to
Hakari.

I did ask about logging in an attempt to connect it to the father of my person of interest. That’s probably where you got tthat from.

For clarity: I started out picking up on little hints in the Zodiac letters that related to the national park service. From there it led to figuring out that Roosevelt (daddy to the park service) was fluent in the letters more so than the park service. Meaning it wasn’t the park service that was important it was Roosevelt. Frankly, my theory, is that the Zodiac was a genealogical killer.

Donna Lass, based on the Zodiacs traits, is in Yosemite.

Soze

Just seeing this now. Thank you Soze for clarifying your theory and the connection you were seeking.