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morf13
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I have found one more similarity between Manalli & Zodiac, and one big difference….

First the similairty. Everytime Manalli writes something with a capital ‘TH’, he connects the tops of the T & H, just like Z did(see below):

The key difference I spotted, was that everytime Manalli writes the word ‘the’, he capitalizes it, no matter what. Zodiac didnt do that, Trav, please check thru and see if I am correct.

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Posted : April 13, 2013 9:01 pm
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More comparisons…

The word ‘editor’. The top one is Manalli’s and the rest are Z’s.

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Posted : April 13, 2013 9:02 pm
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This is the most unusual comparison in my opinion, between Zodiac & Manalli. Neither Z, or Manalli usually made their letter K’s like this. But it seems as if they both made an exception and did it at least onece, and they almost mirror each other as if they were specially designed. I call it the ‘special K’ comparison, because they are both really unusual. One has a curl on the top, and the other has the same exact curl on the bottom.

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Posted : April 13, 2013 9:03 pm
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BY BENTLEY

Morf, that K you pointed out of Minalli’s, upon enlarging, is the same as his others, and was likely connected as I have shown. You can see there appears to be an blank streak probably from a scan or photocopy process.


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Posted : April 13, 2013 9:04 pm
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FOUND IT.

That mirror thing I kept mentioning. A weird symmetry that I couldn’t put my finger on.

It’s not a mirror or a reflection, it’s a shadow

When lined up correctly the letters from the and words from the citizen letter provide a shadow for Manalli’s writing. That’s what was weird about it.

BTW: What I think that means is that whatever is written on that citizen letter, is, in all likelyhood, the italicised version of what’s written in Manalli’s letters.


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Posted : April 13, 2013 9:05 pm
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Here we go,

This is a few words picked out. On the left are the words with their shadow. On the right I have separated out the two words. I’ve taken the word from the citizen letter and skewed them back into place to match the direction of the writing and look what happens. Look at the spacing in them, they are the same. Even the word light revealed it’s baseline shape which I hadn’t noticed until now and even they match.

I hope this helps illustrate some of the things I’ve been seeing in this guys handwriting.

EDIT: BTW for me to be able to skew those back into shape to match – they have to match. If just one stroke in those words was in the wrong direction I wouldn’t have been able to match them up. So basically those words are matches for each other. There’s no other way to say it.


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Posted : April 13, 2013 9:06 pm
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Another comparison:

If you straighten out Zodiac’s ‘HILLS’ and take the slant out of it, it seems to be almost identical to Manalli’s. I am not a writing expoert, and personally, I would love to hear a writing expert’s opinion on Manalli’s writing compared to Zodiac. Some experts have felt that Zodiac was under the influence of something (drugs, or some sort of episode)when he wrote his letters. That could certainly change appearance of somebodys writing I would think.

TRAV, you can you turn/slant the word ‘HILLS’ as written by Manalli to see what it looks like against Z’s?…Hell….maybe try that with all of manalli’s samples.

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Posted : April 13, 2013 9:06 pm
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The word ‘PUBLIC’ from both Z & Manalli, notice how both words have a curve uner them, or the word seems to rainbow.

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Posted : April 13, 2013 9:07 pm
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Pretty close,

Not quite as close as the citizen letter but close. Look at the dot on the i in high in both.


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Posted : April 13, 2013 9:08 pm
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This is what I meant when I said about the left margins matching


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Posted : April 13, 2013 9:09 pm
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Morf,

Here’s your answer to he change in stroke in Manalli’s K’s. He does use a three stroke k for neat print.


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Posted : April 13, 2013 9:10 pm
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Ok I was starting to take a look at the desk poem when I spotted something that hadn’t occurred to me. One of the lower case u’s on the desktop tumbles forward. That was one of the things about Zodiac’s letters, his did the same, it’s one of the unique features other than the famous k.

I checked Manalli’s writing and his u’s don’t do that. In 63, and 65 at least. When we get to 69 however his u’s are now doing it. Compared against one of the pages from the little list the angles of the u’s match. I’ve used the word ‘out’ from the letter on the right to illustrate this.

The second image shows that there is a very similar margin shape as we had with the citizen letter.


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Posted : April 13, 2013 9:12 pm
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Here’s something that differs in the Zodiac stuff from Manalli’s. The N’s don’t match. The are the mirror of each other. Zodiac’s have a starting point at the top whereas Manalli’s have a starting point at the bottom.


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Posted : April 13, 2013 9:13 pm
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My bad on the ampersand. Manalli does do a cross type one as well.


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Posted : April 13, 2013 9:14 pm
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I knew there was something suspicious about poetry. Even in Primary (Elementary) school I knew it. :D Good find, even more stuff to look into.

Big Z had asked me about the circle dots that Zodiac uses. These are most evident in the "Exorcist letter" and on the Car Door.

I had considered these as well and hadn’t seen any in Manalli’s writing. I had noted his rather heavy approach to punctuation which is very similar to Zodiacs. By heavy I mean oversized and emphasized as opposed to a simple dot. What I wasn’t sure about was how he constructed these. As the letters are photocopies it not possible to say if a dot is a circle just because there’s a hole in the middle. It could be a solid dot but photocopying degradation can create a hole where there isn’t one.

I was happy enough to leave it as ‘inconclusive’, not least cause I got use a proper grown-up LE term lol. Then, of course, as this writing just keeps doing, something pops up.

Ignore the hole. Look at the outline. There looks to be evidence of a circular motion to create the dot.


I don’t know Chief, he’s very smart or very dumb.

 
Posted : April 13, 2013 9:14 pm
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