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It is unusual that the 2 hour abduction claim coincidences with the journey time discrepancy from San Bernardino to Highway 132.
Kathleen Johns stated in the Robert Graysmith book she preferred to travel at night, while her baby slept. Sunset in San Bernardino, where she lived was 7.00 pm on March 22nd 1970. This is the exact time she stated she left on her journey to Petaluma.
Here is the route through to where she was abducted on Highway 132.
@35.5876263,-119.2350343,6.42z/data=!4m15!4m14!1m5!1m1!1s0x80c3537de2fdb8f3:0x2867c6788c87c28d!2m2!1d-117.2897652!2d34.1083449!1m5!1m1!1s0x8090fdd69a8b16e1:0x85d2cb673ff56183!2m2!1d-121.0317493!2d37.6386779!1m0!3e0″> https://www.google.com/maps/dir/San+Ber … 79!1m0!3e0

The journey time is documented on Google Maps at 5 1/2 hours. This however is without taking a single rest stop or toilet break. The distance to Bird Road is 366 miles and I don’t know of many people who would travel close to 400 miles, while pregnant, with an 8 month old child in tow, without a single break or two. Even if Kathleen Johns had traveled non stop at 60 mph in her 13 year old Chevrolet, she could only have traveled 360 miles in 6 hours, without so much of a refuel, or break of any kind. A journey of 6 hours would place her at Highway 132 at 1.00 am, nearly two hours after the time she stated she was abducted. Had she stopped at all, it is clear no abduction could have taken place. Throw in one hours rest breaks and 7 hours places her at Bird Road at 2.00 am, the exact time she was discovered by the side of the road, and no time for an abduction to take place. Of course she could have left her home at 5.00 pm, but she did state 7.00 pm and liked to travel at night. Had Kathleen Johns failed to deduct the ‘two hours of her abduction’ from her 7.00 pm starting time to accommodate the story, when she recounted it to Graysmith. Or had she simply misjudged her journey’s beginning time.

 
Posted : December 21, 2016 8:17 pm
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Start of the journey at approx. 06:30 pm – 07:00 pm
Arrival on Highway 132 at approx. 11:15 pm
Flashing lights behind her at approx. 11:25 pm ( http://www.zodiackiller.com/johns.mp3 )
Stop to ‘check her car to see if anything was wrong’ at approx. 11:30 pm
Start of ‘whobbling wheel’ communication at approx. 11:35 pm
Start of the abduction at approx. 11:45 pm (police report)
End of abduction at approx. 01:30 am
Transfer from area of abduction to Patterson Police Department at approx. 01:50 am
Arrival at Patterson Police Department at approx. 02:15 am
Patterson Police report started at 02:30 am
Call of the Stanislaus County Sheriff at approx. 02:35 am
(Patterson mentions it in the middle of the report, which started at 02:30 am, however the Sheriff’s office mentioned 02:30 by itself)
Stanislaus County Sheriff police report started at 02:50 am
Hub cap taken for fingerprints at approx. 03:15 am – 03:30 am

Her child was 10 months old, she was in her seventh month pregnant..for what it’s worth. Regarding

"Sunset in San Bernardino, where she lived was 7.00 pm on March 22nd 1970. This is the exact time she stated she left on her journey to Petaluma."

Just because KJ prefers to travel at night doesn’t necessarily mean that she indeed had left no earlier than sunset. Even if she had left at 07:00 pm, when driving at 80 miles an hour, it would have had placed her at Highway 132 at about 11:15 pm (4.75h travel time). There is no information that she hadn’t left her home earlier, at about 06:30 pm or even in the late afternoon.

Update:
Indeed she had left at around 04:00 pm:

"Mrs. Johns said that she and her daughter bad set out at 4 pm. yeslerday from San Barnardino."

http://www.officialcoldcaseinvestigatio … leen-Johns

QT

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Posted : December 22, 2016 12:05 am
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I notice it stated 4.00 pm, which makes more sense, than belting along at 80 mph, for 4+ hours, over 350 miles, while pregnant and a child of 8 months in the car. 4.00 pm to 11.15 pm, is more likely (7 hours journey time). Unless she drove for NASCAR in a 13 year old Chevrolet. In Robert Graysmiths book it states she left at 7.00 pm. No wonder this case has never been solved, when we have three hour Indiscrepancies.

 
Posted : December 22, 2016 2:35 am
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Quictrader, I am surprised that all four wheels of the vintage car she was driving didn’t fall off going at 80 mph, like a hot-rod hurtling down Highway 132. I am sure her daughter Jennifer would have certainly got a good sleep with the vehicle rattling to pieces around her and would likely have bounced out the window without Zodiac’s help. I am surprised Zodiac ever caught up to her. He must have been traveling at 90 mph, with the number 12 on his vehicle, burning nitrous oxide, just ahead of Dick Dastardly and Muttley. :D

 
Posted : December 22, 2016 2:58 am
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UKSpycatcher, (no longer PM contactible) in the 1st post, said
"Sunset in San Bernardino, where she lived was 7.00 pm on March 22nd 1970."

This would be incorrect. According to;
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daylight_ … ted_States
for most of the U.S.A. during the four decades prior to 2007 Daylight Saving Time
typically commenced in April, but since 2007 DST has commenced in March.
See also;
https://www.timeanddate.com/time/change … ?year=1970

A sunset day-specific listing for San Bernardino in 1970 is not available, however these
daily sunset listings for San Bernardino in 1978 in April & March demonstrate that the
sunset time would not have been at 07:00 P.M., but rather about 06:00 P.M. :
https://www.timeanddate.com/sun/usa/san … &year=1978
https://www.timeanddate.com/sun/usa/san … &year=1978

 
Posted : December 13, 2018 2:54 pm
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@UKSpycatcher

Rode a 64 Tbird this spring Montana, Arizona, Wyoming..these cars being excellently stable, no problem to go 80, 100 miles per hour or even faster.

KJ could have left in the late afternoon, too.

QT

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Posted : December 14, 2018 2:23 am
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UKSpycatcher, (no longer PM contactible) in the 1st post, said;
"Here is the route through to where she was abducted on Highway 132"…etc..

That URL in the 1st post doesn’t finish where her burnt-out car was found.
As best as can be determined, this URL shows where her burnt-out car was found;
@35.5386449,-121.5174773,7z/data=!4m18!4m17!1m5!1m1!1s0x80c3537de2fdb8f3:0x2867c6788c87c28d!2m2!1d-117.2897652!2d34.1083449!1m5!1m1!1s0x8090fdd69a8b16e1:0x85d2cb673ff56183!2m2!1d-121.0317493!2d37.6386779!1m3!2m2!1d-121.352646!2d37.637914!3e0″> https://www.google.com/maps/dir/San+Ber … 637914!3e0

 
Posted : December 18, 2018 9:44 pm
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