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Being someone fairly new to this case I have looked up all the major suspects. I honestly haven’t seen anything written that can show me why it can’t be Lawrence Kane. To me looking at all of these suspects freshly, this seems to be the clear Suspect. Outside of the possibility the Riverside activity he seems to be the obvious Candidate for the Zodiac. But I am new to this, can someone answer the question of "Why not Kane?"

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Posted : December 7, 2013 1:39 am
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Being someone fairly new to this case I have looked up all the major suspects. I honestly haven’t seen anything written that can show me why it can’t be Lawrence Kane. To me looking at all of these suspects freshly, this seems to be the clear Suspect. Outside of the possibility the Riverside activity he seems to be the obvious Candidate for the Zodiac. But I am new to this, can someone answer the question of "Why not Kane?"

Thank so Much

Ultimately, there is no proof. Many coincidences with this case, but bottom line, there is no proof. It cannot even be determined that Donna Lass was a victim of Zodiac and a lot of Kane’s coincidences revolve around Donna.

There is a lot of discussion about Larry at this site. Lots of pros & cons.
viewforum.php?f=43


…they may be dealing with one or more ersatz Zodiacs–other psychotics eager to get into the act, or perhaps even other murderers eager to lay their crimes at the real Zodiac’s doorstep. L.A. Times, 1969

 
Posted : December 7, 2013 1:55 am
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Also Kane has been a suspect for a very long time, since the 1980’s. In all that time no link has ever materialized.

 
Posted : December 7, 2013 3:12 am
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He seems to have always been available to do the killings. He’s one if the few who actually matches most if the descriptions. Three people mentions big or round face" heavy set "but not fat." There was a Zodiac like killing in Vegas in 1974 with the killing of Dana Lull. This happened not far from where Kane lived.

But you’re right there’s no real evidence so who really knows.

If there’s interest here’s an interesting story.

http://welshchappie.wordpress.com

 
Posted : December 7, 2013 12:32 pm
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Prints didn’t match.

 
Posted : December 7, 2013 6:42 pm
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Really? I hadn’t heard that?

 
Posted : December 8, 2013 10:56 am
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Kane looks nothing like the SF Zodiac sketch. Descriptions differ and weight is hard to guess and it is easy to look heavier. But both Mageau and Johns said Z was 160 pounds and 25 to 30 years old. There is nothing at all to indicate that Kane had a strong interest in or knowledge of either code making or bomb designing. Or opera or Norse. A radioman in the Navy sends coded messages from a book. He does not make and create new codes. And the handwriting is not a match.

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Posted : December 8, 2013 7:50 pm
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Kane looks nothing like the SF Zodiac sketch. Descriptions differ and weight is hard to guess and it is easy to look heavier. But both Mageau and Johns said Z was 160 pounds and 25 to 30 years old. There is nothing at all to indicate that Kane had a strong interest in or knowledge of either code making or bomb designing. Or opera or Norse. A radioman in the Navy sends coded messages from a book. He does not make and create new codes. And the handwriting is not a match.

Where did Mageau state 160? Trying to remember because this is what was stated by him right after the attack:

http://www.zodiackiller.com/DFR10.html


…they may be dealing with one or more ersatz Zodiacs–other psychotics eager to get into the act, or perhaps even other murderers eager to lay their crimes at the real Zodiac’s doorstep. L.A. Times, 1969

 
Posted : December 8, 2013 10:57 pm
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Mageau says 160 pounds in this article, and 25 to 30 years old. But lets face it, he saw the guy for seconds in the dark, was shot, had his life fall apart and he has since been all over the map in re descriptions.

Probable victim Kathleen Johns also gave Zodiac’s weight as 160 pounds and 30 years old, and she sat close to him in a car, for several minutes.

Fouke said in his DVD interview that Allen was "100 pounds" heavier than the man he saw that night. The heaviest weight for Allen I have seen was 250 pounds.

The SF Zodiac sketch has no fat in the face at all. It appears to show a lean man of about 160 pounds or so. Certainly not a heavy or fat man, which raises the possibility that Zodiac used a method like putting a towel under his shirt and wearing two jackets to make himself look heavier in body (as Ted K did).

The SF Z sketch does not match Kane. Kane has Sephardic Jewish looks with black wavy hair, bushy black eyebrows, chubby face. IMO nothing at all like the SF sketch. Also going by Mageau and Johns 25 to 30, and other evidence, I think Z was around 27 to 32, and Kane was 45 in 1969. The handwriting is an absolute non-match, and IMO so is the physical appearance, face, hair, weight and age.

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Posted : December 9, 2013 12:52 am
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Thanks AK. I’m not a fan so much of how things are relayed in newspaper articles. Just don’t trust them as we can look through those SF articles and find nothing but errors.

Regardless, I don’t see Kane looking like what Mike or Fouke & the teens described…KJ aside.


…they may be dealing with one or more ersatz Zodiacs–other psychotics eager to get into the act, or perhaps even other murderers eager to lay their crimes at the real Zodiac’s doorstep. L.A. Times, 1969

 
Posted : December 9, 2013 1:49 am
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I doubt that Mageau could have been all that accurate in the chaos!

It’s seems way to big of a coincidence that Kane moved to Tahoe 3 months after lass and then worked right down the hall with hertz. And than Lass disappears.

 
Posted : December 9, 2013 2:25 am
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I doubt that Mageau could have been all that accurate in the chaos!

It’s seems way to big of a coincidence that Kane moved to Tahoe 3 months after lass and then worked right down the hall with hertz. And than Lass disappears.

The thing is, if Mike was unsure, why say anything at all? I don’t think he would tell the cops (in ’69) to be looking for a heavy build/stocky guy if the guy were tall and skinny. Regardless of weight in numbers…he provided a build and I don’t think Mike would make that up. He also states the guy was in a T-shirt….the light wasn’t always in his face.

As far as Kane and Donna, it could simply be a coincidence. People from the Bay Area flock here (Lake Tahoe). The Sahara was one of the bigger casinos back then. And it was a part of "Del Webb" who had another building in S.F.

If one is going to accuse Kane of having anything to do with Donna’s disappearance, they’d need A LOT more than that.


…they may be dealing with one or more ersatz Zodiacs–other psychotics eager to get into the act, or perhaps even other murderers eager to lay their crimes at the real Zodiac’s doorstep. L.A. Times, 1969

 
Posted : December 9, 2013 3:28 am
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His description of the zodiac having "Curly" hair doesn’t match anyone else’s description either.

 
Posted : December 9, 2013 12:17 pm
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His description of the zodiac having "Curly" hair doesn’t match anyone else’s description either.

I wouldn’t hold that against Mike, as it is easy enough to get a haircut or change styles. And plus, there were only so many witnesses available to provide a description. The beefy or heavyset build and round face do match other witnesses’ statements….although certainly there are contradictions regarding Z’s physical appearance. BTW, there’s a great thread on this site about Z’s hair.

 
Posted : December 13, 2013 7:51 pm
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His description of the zodiac having "Curly" hair doesn’t match anyone else’s description either.

Zodiac had more of a buzz cut in SF apparently. Just too short to notice.


…they may be dealing with one or more ersatz Zodiacs–other psychotics eager to get into the act, or perhaps even other murderers eager to lay their crimes at the real Zodiac’s doorstep. L.A. Times, 1969

 
Posted : December 13, 2013 11:04 pm
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