I have never heard of this before, but while researching Zephyr Cove, the place Lawrence Kane/Cane called home post 1971, I discovered that Zephyr Cove is what is termed a ‘Census Designated Place’. After checking the definition of this on several independent sites, here’s the basic meaning of what a Census Designated Place is….
"Census-designated places are locally recognized communities with population clusters which lack legal status such as incorporation within the states where they are located. CDPs are delineated solely to provide data for settled concentrations of population that are identifiable by name but are not legally incorporated under the laws of the state in which they are located."
Heres what one blogger had to say about his visit to a CDP: "Turns out a Census-Designated Place, or CDP, is a term assigned by the U.S. Census Bureau to communities that resemble cities but lack incorporation or any sort of municipal government. Or a post office, it seems (at least in the case of Keystone). So in the eyes of the Census Bureau, Keystone is not a real place. Great! But it gets slightly more complicated than that… – It’s such an odd phenomenon that really has more to do with whether a location has “incorporated” into a municipality. It’s one of those strange technicalities that people really don’t know about unless you do some digging!"
How many American members were aware of CDP’s?
"So it’s sorta social. Demented and sad, but social, right?" Judd Nelson.
Lots of little communities around the Lake like that, althought I doubt most have heard of the term.
“…they may be dealing with one or more ersatz Zodiacs–other psychotics eager to get into the act, or perhaps even other murderers eager to lay their crimes at the real Zodiac’s doorstep.“ L.A. Times, 1969
Lots of little communities around the Lake like that, althought I doubt most have heard of the term.
From reading the definitions, comments and official Government Site’s about this, I get the impression that these area’s are places that exists physically, but are not recognized officially as doing so. The CDP’s are places that, even though are found within an American State, are not legally recognized as doing so, and as such, don’t operate under, and are not subject to, the legislative laws of that State.
"So it’s sorta social. Demented and sad, but social, right?" Judd Nelson.
Discovering these area’s in and of themselves is quite a shock, but the fact that Lawrence lived there, the Lawrence who used so many different names & Dates of Birth, and who’s paper trail is basically non existent, the Lawrence who is never listed as having a next of kin anywhere in the public domain, the Lawrence who is born Klein, then seems to be legally and officially Kane (having been arrested, booked and charged as Kane), who then moves on to be know, and buried officially as, Cane, this same Lawrence who appears to change names, location and disappear at will with no paper trail, is now appearing to reside in a resort that is not recognized as an official place, exempt from even the Census and state Laws? I’ve suspected for a while now, as is evidenced on previous posts & threads here, that there is something more going on with Kane than him just being a bog standard criminal with a few fake ID’s. Would these CDP locations be the type of place you’d expect to find, lets say, a top FBI informant? Or a man under the witness protection programme of the Government? This man firstly seems to have no traceable, consistent name and paper trail, and seems to keep changing his identity so that he only ever exists as a legal person for a few months, or maybe years, before he seems to shed that old name and life like an old snake skin and acquire a brand new one. Then retires in the plush, expensive resort that, like his own self, doesn’t exist officially?
I know Sandy has stated on a forum somewhere that she informed the Police (Not sure which Dpt.) that she had discovered Larry Kane had at least 3 Social Security Numbers and their response, after looking into it was, "As long as he pays his taxes, we don’t care" or words along those lines.
"So it’s sorta social. Demented and sad, but social, right?" Judd Nelson.
I’ve never heard of a "census designated place" before this thread.
But after checking on them, they’re not noteworthy to me.
Just small communities. No city buildings, local police, etc.
I drive through tons of them. Nothing special.
Lots of little communities around the Lake like that, althought I doubt most have heard of the term.
From reading the definitions, comments and official Government Site’s about this, I get the impression that these area’s are places that exists physically, but are not recognized officially as doing so. The CDP’s are places that, even though are found within an American State, are not legally recognized as doing so, and as such, don’t operate under, and are not subject to, the legislative laws of that State.
They’re definitely subject to the legislative laws of the state.
Well from what I have read it seems almost like these CDP’s are no different to the Vatican! The Vatican is located within the Country of Italy, but is a separate entity not subject to the laws of Italy. That’s how these CDP’s seem to operate, the State seems to say it doesn’t have jurisdiction .
"So it’s sorta social. Demented and sad, but social, right?" Judd Nelson.
Going by the ones I looked up in my state, they’re just little communities. None of the ones I’m familiar with have city police, city halls. A couple have volunteer fire departments. Could be different in California, I don’t know. They definitely are under state law though, or else I would drive faster going through them.
Well from what I have read it seems almost like these CDP’s are no different to the Vatican! The Vatican is located within the Country of Italy, but is a separate entity not subject to the laws of Italy. That’s how these CDP’s seem to operate, the State seems to say it doesn’t have jurisdiction .
Zephyr Cove definitely has to abide by laws of the State. All of the little communities are goverened under Douglas County. No local police department, but the Sheriff’s Department has a strong presence.
Larry actually lived in "Cave Rock".
Chappie–have you ever seen the movie "Smoking Aces"? There is a scene where some punker thugs arrive at the lake–(they kill Ben Affleck)—the car has two metal "Zodiac" symbols on the hood–always caught my eye. Larry lived on the hill just above where they filmed that scene. I always got a kick out of that.
Here is the scene: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=izdWYW0v14Y
Sorry–a bit off subject.
“…they may be dealing with one or more ersatz Zodiacs–other psychotics eager to get into the act, or perhaps even other murderers eager to lay their crimes at the real Zodiac’s doorstep.“ L.A. Times, 1969
Well from what I have read it seems almost like these CDP’s are no different to the Vatican! The Vatican is located within the Country of Italy, but is a separate entity not subject to the laws of Italy. That’s how these CDP’s seem to operate, the State seems to say it doesn’t have jurisdiction .
Zephyr Cove definitely has to abide by laws of the State. All of the little communities are goverened under Douglas County. No local police department, but the Sheriff’s Department has a strong presence.
Larry actually lived in "Cave Rock".
Chappie–have you ever seen the movie "Smoking Aces"? There is a scene where some punker thugs arrive at the lake–(they kill Ben Affleck)—the car has two metal "Zodiac" symbols on the hood–always caught my eye. Larry lived on the hill just above where they filmed that scene. I always got a kick out of that.
Here is the scene: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=izdWYW0v14Y
Sorry–a bit off subject.
Despite being a self confessed movie buff Tahoe, that one isn’t a film I can say I remember seeing. But I’ll check out the link 
I still want someone to explain to me though how ‘Lawrence Kane’ managed to be arrested, booked, and charged in San Mateo County as ‘Kane’ (I assume his prints were already on record to cross reference with the ones they took at his arrest), then to go on to die and be officially remembered as WWII vet ‘Lawrence Cane’, and all this after being born Lawrence Klein.
"So it’s sorta social. Demented and sad, but social, right?" Judd Nelson.
Is that actually filmed on location in Zephyr Cove? That’s quite cool. Who I the writer/producer/director, one of them is responsible for that scene and tipping their hat’s to Kane and The Zodiac, so to speak. But I don’t think Mr Kane would likely return home in that manner, screeching up, big ‘ZODAC’ logo on the front of the hood that kinda works as a logo (kinda similar to the MERCEDES logo.) I also wouldn’t have though Lawrence would liten to that type of ‘Music’ (I use he word music grudgingly, lol). I wonder if Kane actually saw the movie, or was aware when they filmed it what they were symbolically saying? I mean, that basically saying t Kane…. "Hello Lawrence, do you like the vehicle we have for this scene? Nice new symbol on he hood, what you think of that Larry, any comments?
Because I believe Larry was Zodiac, the irony is just amusing! It’s almost like Hollywood have said, at least symbolically, "We know who Zodiac is, and here is where he currently resides" while LE don’t seem to have a clue.
n fairness, the despatcher was untrained and under-qualified for the despatch position she held. I mean as everyone knows, you need to go on a 13 week training course to learn how to broadcast the words ‘White Male Adult’ without accidently saying Black. That kind of job description requires someone highly skilled, or what’s that other word for it….Awake! Call came in to DISPATCHER from ‘Teen’…. "Robbery/assault in progress, Washington & Cherry St’s." Despatcher reports over police airwaves "Robbery/Assault in progress, Washington & Cherry St’s Teen "Suspect is White male Adult" Despatcher "All units, be advised and BOTL for a Black, NEGRO Male Adult" Very easy mistake to make….White sounds so much like Black!
"So it’s sorta social. Demented and sad, but social, right?" Judd Nelson.
The town of Zephyr Cove is actually a bit south of where Larry lived.
That movie was filmed on location. The majority in Stateline/South Lake Tahoe…it’s good with top movie stars!
The area in this map shows ZC in relation to where Larry lived. The yellow area pointing to where his condo was.
Where it shows "Cave Rock" is where that clip was filmed. Larry was up by Winding Way.
“…they may be dealing with one or more ersatz Zodiacs–other psychotics eager to get into the act, or perhaps even other murderers eager to lay their crimes at the real Zodiac’s doorstep.“ L.A. Times, 1969
Larry Cane’s address was off of Cave Rock drive before you get to Winding way.( Tahoe thanks ,you showed a good map) Looking at that map , follow Cave rock dr., part way up , you see that short arm that jaunts to the right with out a street name ? That is where the Cave Rock Villas are, Cane’s condo can be seen from the bottom of that hill from cave rock dr. His is the furthest to the right at the very end of the Cave Rock Villa’s. The address was something like "1308" or 1310 Cave Rock Villa’s , Zephyr Cove 89448 NV. If you Google Cave Rock Villa’s NV., it will show you some for rent or for sale. I think his sold in 2011 ? They showed Cane walking outside his condo on one of the TV shows. They did not show his face, just from his knees down. Before he moved to that address he lived on McFaul also in Zephyr Cove.
Larry Cane’s address was off of Cave Rock drive before you get to Winding way.( Tahoe thanks ,you showed a good map) Looking at that map , follow Cave rock dr., part way up , you see that short arm that jaunts to the right with out a street name ? That is where the Cave Rock Villas are, Cane’s condo can be seen from the bottom of that hill from cave rock dr. His is the furthest to the right at the very end of the Cave Rock Villa’s. The address was something like "1308" or 1310 Cave Rock Villa’s , Zephyr Cove 89448 NV. If you Google Cave Rock Villa’s NV., it will show you some for rent or for sale. I think his sold in 2011 ? They showed Cane walking outside his condo on one of the TV shows. They did not show his face, just from his knees down. Before he moved to that address he lived on McFaul also in Zephyr Cove.
Is this it, Sandy?
"So it’s sorta social. Demented and sad, but social, right?" Judd Nelson.
Hey Sandy, I just noticed something else that is rather strange and coincidental regarding Kane.
Zodiac mentioned the ‘Blue Meanies.’ The Blue Meanies are a fictional creation that appear in The Beatles film ‘Yellow Submarine’. This reference to The Beatles by Zodiac may not be by accident, and could be another of his word games.
"Larry Kane is an American journalist best known as the only American reporter whom The Beatles let travel with them on their 1964 and 1965 North American tours. Kane was born in Brooklyn, New York to Jewish-American parents as Lawrence Kanowitz." The other Larry Kane was also born in Brooklyn, NY and claims to be Jewish. "He changed his name as an adult…" The other Larry Kane also seemed to change his mane as an adult.
"So it’s sorta social. Demented and sad, but social, right?" Judd Nelson.
