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vasa croe
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Hey all….new to the site here but not to the case. I know there are numerous POI’s and theories out there and have tried to go over them all so as not to be redundant with questions about things that may have already been put to rest. I have a lot of questions myself and am hoping someone or multiple people here can answer or give some more clarity. Here goes…

I have been combing through numerous dates, facts and people looking for connections and want to make sure none of these things have been put down as no longer viable. One of the more intriguing ideas I have come across is the Zodiac using Brands for symbols. I looked a lot deeper into this and have found that the symbols and even characters used in all ciphers match up to either Brands or Mining symbols. Even the two different forms of the letter K as well as the odd upside down "T" that is actually a "J reverse J" brand from California Brand Book. So many of them match it of course got me to thinking Z had something to do with ranching and mining. I have the 1960 and 1964 California Brand Books on order now so I can confirm the matches with the books of the time. The only problem I have is that if Z did have something to do with ranching, the brand book he was using for the symbols could have been one passed to him by a family member or friend and even possibly a hand written one as was used by cowboys in the day while with the livestock.

Z also had a fascination with RKO, Tim Holt and western cowboy culture as has come up many times. This got me to thinking about a connection to studios and productions. Many of the RKO films were on ranches around Cali and as such would allow for someone working with the studio to travel around a lot and not necessarily be out of sorts in the area as they would be there for a reason but then gone soon after back to their home. Convenient.

This also got me thinking about the car that was said to be used by Z in a case that is undetermined at this point…the Studebaker. Typically this would be a car bought by someone with some money or status back in the day, especially if it was indeed a beat up 1947-52 model. This made me think the car was passed down from a father or grand-father that may have been wealthy at the time.

Now I am not sure about the timing on some of the films, but does anyone here have a way to check when certain films were being shot at the particular RKO sites/ranches? My thought is the timing/location of filming may line up with killing dates/locations as well.

I do have a particular POI in mind myself, but can get no pics of him anywhere. He fits all the criteria and lived in all the right spots and his family owned ranches and his father did a brief stint as a miner. He was in the Air Force and saw battle, was wounded in battle and was known to have a father/grand father that heavily drank. There are a ton of other connections but all circumstantial. He even has connections to Albany, Oklahoma and was actually born and raised in Van Nuys…very close to the Johns abduction.

So…any thoughts?

 
Posted : February 22, 2014 12:30 am
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Here’s the wiki on movie ranches. RKO probably did not have their own ranch per se but may have favored a particular movie ranch.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Movie_ranch

I know it’s wiki but there are some decent links in the article.

In the Bay Area there were many westerns filmed in Niles Canyon.

www.santarosahitchhikermurders.com

 
Posted : February 22, 2014 4:35 am
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I checked the cattle brands in California..all of them…and in fact did a request to the responsible admin office for all those Calif cattle brands. Answer was – no match. The only possibility could be a brand for e.g. horses.

QT

*ZODIACHRONOLOGY*

 
Posted : February 22, 2014 5:54 am
vasa croe
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I checked the cattle brands in California..all of them…and in fact did a request to the responsible admin office for all those Calif cattle brands. Answer was – no match. The only possibility could be a brand for e.g. horses.

QT

Odd because I have found many matches in the current 2010 Brand Book, even down to the different styles the reverse and forward "K" were written. It isn’t necessarily that the characters in the Z Ciphers themselves are brands, but possibly written in "brand code". Brands are read very different than they look. Such as what we look at as a "K" could actually be a " l lazy V connected".

I have found that many of these brands are relicensed and what not as ranches go out of business and/or are bought by another ranch or company. The older books would have the answers to that….I have them on order to check. The link with brands and mining symbols is fairly solid to me. That matches up a lot with the POI I have in mind. Again…all completely circumstantial and in my own head, but fits none the less.

 
Posted : February 23, 2014 8:37 am
vasa croe
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Here’s the wiki on movie ranches. RKO probably did not have their own ranch per se but may have favored a particular movie ranch.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Movie_ranch

I know it’s wiki but there are some decent links in the article.

In the Bay Area there were many westerns filmed in Niles Canyon.

I have looked that over before. It does have some info and I have managed to find out a few of the ranches they used as well as a bit about their own RKO ranch. I have contacted the current RKO company and requested some possible records of the dates and locations of filming.

My POI was directly connected to the RKO studio and the docs requested will let me know if he was on location at certain films.

 
Posted : February 23, 2014 8:53 am
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"The Most Dangerous Game" was RKO


…they may be dealing with one or more ersatz Zodiacs–other psychotics eager to get into the act, or perhaps even other murderers eager to lay their crimes at the real Zodiac’s doorstep. L.A. Times, 1969

 
Posted : February 23, 2014 11:07 am
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