In terms of artistic value, on the Halloween Card he drew 12 eyes.
The 13 Hole Postcard was cut and pasted words.
The Pines Card was cut and pasted words, he did no artwork.
The Dragon Card was bought like that.
The American Greetings Card was bought like that.
The Dripping Pen on 340 not his work.
He basically created no artwork. The nearest he ever came to drawing was the Bus Bomb Diagram.

In terms of artistic value, on the Halloween Card he drew 12 eyes.
The 13 Hole Postcard was cut and pasted words.
The Pines Card was cut and pasted words, he did no artwork.
The Dragon Card was bought like that.
The American Greetings Card was bought like that.
The Dripping Pen on 340 not his work.
He basically created no artwork. The nearest he ever came to drawing was the Bus Bomb Diagram.

Good summation.
I was under the impression that the skeleton on the Halloween card was also cut and pasted.
Possibly strategically placed.

Thanks! Just looking at the images, I thought the Halloween card must’ve been drawn by an artist, but that’s not the case.

As I think about it, I wonder if any DNA or fingerprints could’ve been trapped between the card, paste, and cutout? I mean, there’s no way someone could’ve done that intricate work wearing gloves. They would’ve had to have touched the back of those cutouts (they would’ve wiped the front clean when done, of course.)

Perhaps that kind of DNA or fingerprint extraction can’t be done today, but maybe eventually…

In terms of artistic value, on the Halloween Card he drew 12 eyes.
The 13 Hole Postcard was cut and pasted words.
The Pines Card was cut and pasted words, he did no artwork.
The Dragon Card was bought like that.
The American Greetings Card was bought like that.
The Dripping Pen on 340 not his work.
He basically created no artwork. The nearest he ever came to drawing was the Bus Bomb Diagram.

Good summation.
I was under the impression that the skeleton on the Halloween card was also cut and pasted.
Possibly strategically placed.

Well he supposedly cut and pasted the inner skeleton and stuck the pumpkin on, but you and I can be agreed that doesn’t make him Van Gogh.

Thanks! Just looking at the images, I thought the Halloween card must’ve been drawn by an artist, but that’s not the case.

As I think about it, I wonder if any DNA or fingerprints could’ve been trapped between the card, paste, and cutout? I mean, there’s no way someone could’ve done that intricate work wearing gloves. They would’ve had to have touched the back of those cutouts (they would’ve wiped the front clean when done, of course.)

Perhaps that kind of DNA or fingerprint extraction can’t be done today, but maybe eventually…

A nice thin pair of gloves or surgical/latex gloves would have done the trick. Maybe he coated his fingertips with airplane cement as he claimed one in his letters. Jewelers wear gloves when handling small diamonds etc, all the Zodiac was handling was bits of paper and cardboard essentially.

Now to pick and choose which of those UK listed is from Zodiac!

I know Tahoe you will probably say 2 (Dripping Pen and Dragon Card), I go for all 6, although I’m probably in the minority.

I know Tahoe you will probably say 2 (Dripping Pen and Dragon Card), I go for all 6, although I’m probably in the minority.

I say all 6 too

I say none of them.

No, I don’t – not really.

But I’m with Tahoe on the cards.

As for suspects with artistic talent, in general, I think Z probably had some sort of…if not artistic talent as such, then at least a semblance of it. He had some sense of what he was doing which can be called…aesthetic, I suppose. Murder considered as one of the fine arts, as De Quincey said. Not quite that with Z, but still. He had an idea about how to present himself, let’s put it like that.

Zodiac did not show any artistic talent in his bomb diagrams. Those, I think we all can agree, were drawn by Zodiac. The drawings sufficed but were very crude, not even rising to the level of outsider art.

I do think that Zodiac had the performance art thing down pretty good. I don’t think that Marshall was referring to that though.

Zodiac did not show any artistic talent in his bomb diagrams. Those, I think we all can agree, were drawn by Zodiac. The drawings sufficed but were very crude, not even rising to the level of outsider art.

That’s an excellent point. If the idea is that Z was an artist, or had (even rudimentary) artistic training, those diagrams clearly speak against that notion.

The whole bomb business is telling – in many ways, I think. It speaks against him being of a particularly scientific mind too, as the device he proposes is utterly impractical. Looks more like something a kid might have produced, emulating something he’d read about in a comic book. Not a stupid kid, be it said – but certainly not a scientist either.

Or a technically proficient artist.

What I mean is that he displays an ability to convey his message in a certain form, there is a stylistic unity to his “works” which can, at a stretch, be considered as aesthetic. The combination of murder and letter campaign, done as he did it, has something “arty” to it. But that might be us reading way too much into it, be it said. He, himself, may not have considered it in those terms at all. But he still displays the ability, whatever it means.

The bus letter had the hallmarks of rudimentary skills of electrical mechanics drawings or even an automotive electrician. sort of first or second year apprentice or someone who had studied a book to get the info. The system whilst fanciful and somewhat elaborate was not far off being usable. It is the mechanical type time clock and the way he showed his wires crossing with a loop. I have not studied the drawing in depth and these are just casual observations but it is a field I am well versed in. To put it into context of this topic. No artistic flair at all. Early learning drawing skills in the auto/electrical or electrical mechanical field my best guess.
He draws cars just like me… badly!!

Edit. Just to add in the 50 60 70 there was an electromechanical timer used in switchboards to swap the power for electrical hot water systems from day time to night time tariff.. It was black and its face aluminum with a great big directional arrow on it.. To add In my country we had em..

In regards to the question I think many will say their POI had some sort of artist talent–it sort of goes with the territory. I know Frank Dryman was one to have these abilities, but don’t think he was ever actually a suspect–but, he was discussed.

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He actually looks just like the sketch.

Now, where have I heard that before…?