Welp, History has just enough so they can greenlight season 2.

I found the fact a member of the Mikado show said he and others noticed a weird guy at the shows repeatedly and that he was over 6 feet tall and “well built”, a stocky guy much more telling. He all but described Ross.

No doubt they’ll make a season two given they found male dna on Bates’ pants and the gloves in Stein’s cab.

The DNA finds have made the show worthwhile.

The theme song should be "Is That All There Is?"

I solved it 340, and Richard M. "Nikson" was Zodiac.. ha! Misspelling the presidents name would be something I could see Z doing though.

Richard Grinell pointed out that Nixon was the 37th president. 37 kills. Hmm. He also noted that Nixon was president from 1969 until 1974, which lines up. Could there really be something to this??

I figured that out, too, and he also, drumroll, represented the 12 District of CA from 47-51. OK, so back then it represented eastern LA, it now is SF!

But then there is the whole Ross Sullivan thing- claiming Binghamton is a stones throw to Albany (whats over 2 hours between friends?) so clearly Ross had a distinct Albany connection? Nixon moved to NYC, that is closer to Albany! And for anyone who doesn’t know, Albany is the State Capital, not NYC.

I have found the show as a whole highly entertaining. I would say its a complete waste except for 2 things- I entertain my husband with a running commentary on their "discoveries…

…and the only new fact I never remember hearing was that the empty houses between where CJB was killed was used for library overflow and storage. Is this true??? The librarian they interviewed said that, which makes me wonder about where the desk was found. That could hint at Ross writing it, but they also made it sound like no one knew the houses were empty except library employees since they were using it- thus the perfect place for an ambush???

SMH, was hoping for more but maybe that one nugget will happen?

-m

I have a book on the history of RCC, it states that the house closest to the Quad building was used as the library annex and the
library employees called it "Harvard" (some people mistakenly refer to the main library as the library annex).

I read somewhere that the next house over was used as the "black student union", but I have not been able to confirm this.

There was more than just two houses that were vacant, the entire square block of houses were vacant (about a dozen houses)
The college needed the land for their expansion plans and used eminent domain to force the home owners to sell their homes
to RCC, this had taken place a few weeks or months before the murder.

I’ve read two things regarding the location of the desk top poem, some say it was found in the library and others say it was
found in the library storage room. if it was found in the storage room that would make Ross an even stronger suspect because
as an employee he would have had access to the storage room !

I can attest to the fact that all the houses lining Terracina Drive were used as either office space for the various college departments or used for storage. Don’t know about the Black Student Union ever using them. Ross Sullivan as a library worker would have known that the houses adjacent to the murder scene were vacant. I remember in 67 I escorted a girl that I knew from Ramona High School to her car which was parked in the adjacent parking lot. We walked right through the old murder site and neither of us said a word. The place was dark, gloomy, and filled most people who knew the history of the site with deep sadness.

We’ve known for a while now about the male DNA found in regards to Cheri’s case. It has been thought the gloves were women’s so male DNA is interesting, although, weren’t they found in the back seat? Why would Zodiac take them off, leave them, then go up front. A big oops, but possible.

Must have not been a match or that would have been one hell of an ending!!

So much for the five episode thing, huh?

Rename it "The Curse of the Hunt for the Zodiac Killer."

The 340 code thing seems to be pretty meaningless at this point.

The DNA evidence will be the key if these crimes will ever be solved. It will be interesting to see if the DNA at the Bates murder matches the supposed DNA from the known Zodiac crimes. If it’s a match, that would certainly strengthen the case that the DNA from the letters is Zodiac’s. Then if a DNA profile for Ross Sullivan could be obtained, or at least that of a close relative, he could either be excluded or confirmed as Zodiac.

Anyway, I can see this being dragged on for years like Oak Island.

So much for the five episode thing, huh?

Rename it "The Curse of the Hunt for the Zodiac Killer."

The 340 code thing seems to be pretty meaningless at this point.

The DNA evidence will be the key if these crimes will ever be solved. It will be interesting to see if the DNA at the Bates murder matches the supposed DNA from the known Zodiac crimes. If it’s a match, that would certainly strengthen the case that the DNA from the letters is Zodiac’s. Then if a DNA profile for Ross Sullivan could be obtained, or at least that of a close relative, he could either be excluded or confirmed as Zodiac.

Anyway, I can see this being dragged on for years like Oak Island.

I’ll be really bummed if they figure out who did it with dna and do like oak island has.

Season two… TEST MANALLI’S DNA!!!

Even for reality TV, the investigation seemed uncoordinated. The super computer was touted again and again throughout the episodes and provided basically nothing. The solution to the 340 cipher felt like an attempt to offer something on the cipher after the computer struck out. The two investigators seemed focused from the beginning on two suspects and their efforts came off as working backward from those suspects instead of forward to new evidence. And Vallejo didn’t seem to figure in their efforts, which is bizarre. Typical History Channel string along.

Her family and Harvey Hines (a former detective who researched her case) created it post late-1997 after the area code change to (530). They were active in South Lake Tahoe at the time doing research and working with the SLTPD.

Probably in 2001: https://www.tahoedailytribune.com/news/ … years-ago/

Wait, so the lass family and Harvey Hines created a missing person poster for donna with a cipher included on it?

Yes, Donna’s sister and nephew created it. As has been said about the poster, the area code in the phone number did not exist until 1997, the reward amount was quite high to have been offered back in the 70s, the typical reward back then would have been in the $500-$1000 range and I believe it was Glurk who noticed the font of the text on the poster was a font found on something that was computer generated.

Harvey Hines suspect was Larry Cane, Larry Cane live in the South Lake Tahoe area at that time and until his death.

The lass family and Harvey Hines created a missing person flyer for Donna which included a cipher, which when decoded leads one from the casino where Donna disappeared to donner pass?

Is it just me or does this seem a bit morbid and disrespectful? Specially for family to perpetrate…

I fully believe you, it just seems like a bizarre thing for family to do…

So much for the five episode thing, huh?

Rename it "The Curse of the Hunt for the Zodiac Killer."

The 340 code thing seems to be pretty meaningless at this point.

The DNA evidence will be the key if these crimes will ever be solved. It will be interesting to see if the DNA at the Bates murder matches the supposed DNA from the known Zodiac crimes. If it’s a match, that would certainly strengthen the case that the DNA from the letters is Zodiac’s. Then if a DNA profile for Ross Sullivan could be obtained, or at least that of a close relative, he could either be excluded or confirmed as Zodiac.

Anyway, I can see this being dragged on for years like Oak Island.

Yup, I can see this getting dragged out into 5 or more seasons…

I like the show. (And I like the oak island show) I just hate these big build ups and promises that turn out to be nothing, I mean, it would be fine I’d they did not promise some groundbreaking discovery each week, I would still watch. The announcer or narrator whatever he is, drives me crazy.

Honestly, I think they should put you guys in charge of the show. People from this site have actually made more progress than most other independent investigations, they should at least take guidance from you guys.

I’m assuming they edited out the part where sal and tatman show the theatre guy a picture of Ross and Kane to see if one of them looked like the weirdo he was talking about? I mean, they did show pictures,right?

I’m assuming they edited out the part where sal and tatman show the theatre guy a picture of Ross and Kane to see if one of them looked like the weirdo he was talking about? I mean, they did show pictures,right?

Theatre Guy: I have that weirdo’s face seared into my memory.

Sal & Mains: If only there was a way to check this guy’s memory against pictures of our "suspects" from that time period. Oh well.

Just like in all TV shows, there’s definitely a lot of editing, staging, dramatised parts and cut corners going on in the show which makes the "investigation" look really unorganised and vague. In oroduction there’s always so much we viewers don’t get to see – background work, consultations and just general "boring" bits that don’t make for entertaining TV. So I don’t think it’s really a fair thing to complain about. Naturally, they could have given credit to the discoveries that in fact came from amateur researchers.

I for one am really glad this show’s been made. It’s giving the case attention again and with right connections and the financial resources of a production company some advances can be made such as the DNA testing of Bates’ pants. It’s concrete. We viewers can complain but at the end of the day what most of us can offer are quasi-delusional theories and online arguments about our favourite POIs.

I hope there’ll be a second season.

P.S. Wonder if the bits in the enhanced version of the show become available somewhere online sometime?