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(@mike_r)
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Sorry. ;) I’ve just heard one too many, "My father was the Zodiac killer" stories.

Mike Rodelli

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In The Shadow of Mt. Diablo: The Shocking True Identity of the Zodiac Killer, a second edition in print format. 4.3 Amazon stars and great Editorial reviews. Twitter:@mikerodelli

 
Posted : January 12, 2017 3:14 am
(@anonymous)
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I’m surprised we haven’t heard any ‘Zodiac was my grandfather’ stories yet.

 
Posted : January 12, 2017 3:34 am
Tahoe27
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I’m surprised we haven’t heard any ‘Zodiac was my grandfather’ stories yet.

Uncle, brother, son. It’s always Dad if a relative.

Although I do certainly think it’s possible! The reason we do what we do; share and discuss, is not only for ourselves, but for others to have resources that may help them when they have their own suspicions. Some are valid and worth looking at, while others aren’t. It usually doesn’t take too long to know.


…they may be dealing with one or more ersatz Zodiacs–other psychotics eager to get into the act, or perhaps even other murderers eager to lay their crimes at the real Zodiac’s doorstep. L.A. Times, 1969

 
Posted : January 12, 2017 6:12 am
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I’m with Mike on this one, although we shouldn’t dismiss leads, it does reach a point, that when somebody makes another one of these claims, it’s like the cry wolf scenario, you simply stop believing them.

 
Posted : January 12, 2017 12:18 pm
Tahoe27
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I’m with Mike on this one, although we shouldn’t dismiss leads, it does reach a point, that when somebody makes another one of these claims, it’s like the cry wolf scenario, you simply stop believing them.

I’m not sure if it’s a matter of believing someone. If all they have is talk, or black potato bags, than yes. But… I think we must start with what is offered (on occasion) or what’s the point? Do I think this will lead to Zodiac’s identity? Probably not, but why not take a peek.

The story might not be fake…just not accurate.


…they may be dealing with one or more ersatz Zodiacs–other psychotics eager to get into the act, or perhaps even other murderers eager to lay their crimes at the real Zodiac’s doorstep. L.A. Times, 1969

 
Posted : January 12, 2017 12:34 pm
Marshall
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There are two aspects to this one that might turn out to be positives, other than just the claim of "Daddy did it." First, there is apparently a group of somewhat qualified people in Pittsburgh taking an active interest in this case, and second, there is a handwriting expert who might, hopefully, be willing to share some insight with us as well. Getting these people to participate in this site is what I’m seeing as the main thing here…….

 
Posted : January 12, 2017 6:54 pm
(@mike_r)
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Hi-

Make no mistake: There are people whose handwriting is similar to Z’s. That is inevitable. We’ve all seen them. I was told by Vince Repetto of a guy from New England who had a legal doc he had handwritten that had something like 19 of the 26 characteristics of Z’s handwriting. When they took that writing to a forum of experts and showed it side by side with Z’s without saying what case it was, every expert raised his or her hand saying it matched. When they were told it was about the Z case, none of them did because they did not wish to even possibly be wrong about a major case.

There is also Kaczynski, whose writing looks very similar to Z’s.

What makes this handwriting different is the back story and whether that is believable. It clearly implies that Z is so cavalier these days he doesn’t care if he is caught and is even encouraging his daughter to unmask him. Since they seem to be operating off of one sample from a 2015 holiday card, my question is where are all the other cards and/or letters he may have sent his daughter over the years? Does she routinely throw them out? Or did I misunderstand something?

Mike

Mike Rodelli

Author, The Hunt for Zodiac; 3.9 stars on Amazon and
In The Shadow of Mt. Diablo: The Shocking True Identity of the Zodiac Killer, a second edition in print format. 4.3 Amazon stars and great Editorial reviews. Twitter:@mikerodelli

 
Posted : January 12, 2017 7:28 pm
(@mike_r)
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Hi-

I understand now that the 20 "detectives" are from Oakland, PA, not CA.

Lol. I should have searched on the handwriting expert’s name earlier. I found this: http://jimfisher.edinboro.edu/forensics … amsey.html

She is a graphologist, not a QD person. But she calls herself a "handwriting expert" to avoid using the correct term.

My sources have confirmed that the QD guy who is THE leading expert on the Zodiac handwriting has not been consulted about this writing and he said he has never heard of this lady.

Mike

Mike Rodelli

Author, The Hunt for Zodiac; 3.9 stars on Amazon and
In The Shadow of Mt. Diablo: The Shocking True Identity of the Zodiac Killer, a second edition in print format. 4.3 Amazon stars and great Editorial reviews. Twitter:@mikerodelli

 
Posted : January 13, 2017 12:27 am
(@snooter)
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My first thought was ok here we go again, but im really trying not to pass judgement on these type of claims..outside hope is something comes out of this but id give it around 1.1% chance..prolly less but i truly hope i am wrong….

 
Posted : January 13, 2017 5:20 am
Seagull
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SFGate (SF Chronicle) has picked up the story!

http://www.sfgate.com/news/crime/articl … o-12189704

www.santarosahitchhikermurders.com

 
Posted : January 14, 2017 12:38 pm
Jarlve
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Will the handwriting samples be shared?

AZdecrypt

 
Posted : January 14, 2017 9:40 pm
 Soze
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There is no foundation to any of this and will be a dead end.

Soze

 
Posted : January 15, 2017 12:34 am
(@1doctor)
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Lol. I should have searched on the handwriting expert’s name earlier. I found this: http://jimfisher.edinboro.edu/forensics … amsey.html

She is a graphologist, not a QD person. But she calls herself a "handwriting expert" to avoid using the correct term.

ding-ding-ding

Graphology is nonsense and I’ve been saying it here forever. People have got to quit investing time into this pseudoscience. This is honestly akin to alchemy in terms of legitimacy.

 
Posted : January 20, 2017 5:40 pm
(@bayarea60s)
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I wonder if the gal heading this class? study? contacted any of the Ca. LE Dept’s. to see if the name rings a bell at all?

 
Posted : January 22, 2017 5:21 pm
morf13
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I reached out to this group and got no response

There is more than one way to lose your life to a killer

http://www.zodiackillersite.com/
http://zodiackillersite.blogspot.com/
https://twitter.com/Morf13ZKS

 
Posted : January 26, 2017 8:23 pm
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