If it is so important to you that you continue bickering with me, please do so off this message board.

Please stop pretending I know you, and please stop posting about me. Oh, and please stop claiming to being an attorney, and please stop spreading misinformation.

Deal?

Tom, you can claim victory and move on now. You uncovered me as a nothing, a nobody. I claimed to be a lawyer, but you figured me out. Further, it is obvious I did not make an impression up on you the numerous times we emailed. It’s okay. You win. Let’s move on for the sake of civility on this message board and for the sake of the efficacy of us amateur sleuths, independently and collectively.

If it is so important to you that you continue bickering with me, please do so off this message board.

So this guy’s on the record as taking a hike – now if Tom can leave it alone we’re good.

What’s up guys…nobody has a wife to argue with?

Where are the hard facts / did anybody crack the cipher yet? Instead of blaming each other to be the Zodiac or this and that? Has everybody read all the Californian newspapers since 1964, too? Useless sentences can be entered into doranchaks webtoy..touché

QT
(Couldn’t resist..)

Tom, you can claim victory and move on now. You uncovered me as a nothing, a nobody. I claimed to be a lawyer, but you figured me out. Further, it is obvious I did not make an impression up on you the numerous times we emailed. It’s okay. You win. Let’s move on for the sake of civility on this message board and for the sake of the efficacy of us amateur sleuths, independently and collectively.

If it is so important to you that you continue bickering with me, please do so off this message board.

So this guy’s on the record as taking a hike – now if Tom can leave it alone we’re good.

For sure. I can behave quite well when people let me!

Although I do have a Hot For Holes mouse pad.

Paul Holes has a new Podcast called "Murder Squad" and use CrowdSource for investigations. Maybe an offshoot of
E-Homicide.
http://fortune.com/2019/04/01/murder-sq … owdsource/

I think Dave Oranchak is our Paul Holes in the Zodiac Case.

Would genealogy work always be required?

What if someone were positively identified via dna and their name was able to be determined a/c match? Then other information could be obtained (including names of possible relatives)?

In my opinion, the only way this case gets solved is if DNA is developed from Zodiac, and matched thru genealogy to a suspect. The days of saying a guy looks Zodiac, or his handwriting does…are long gone. Also, I think by now we can give up on the entire dream scenario where a relative discovers Zodiac’s diary, hood, weapons, ciphers, etc

If DNA doesn’t get it done, it won’t be solved

Mott, Do you really believe that? Isn’t it possible if that mtDNA from Bates is a match and those few markers they developed from the gloves in combination with a bunch of circumstantial evidence and whatever it is they have that is not public might all add up to enough if they really found the right suspect? I don’t believe they are going to develop anymore DNA or they would have by now. So I would have to give up hope if I believed more DNA was the only way at this time.

Riverside PD couldn’t figure out their left shoe from their right. They have worked their case making it fit their suspect instead of the suspect fitting the evidence. They have blinders on, and I have no confidence in them. That being said, we don’t know if Cheri’s killer was actually Zodiac, so even if they matched the DNA to a suspect, there’s no guarantee that person was Zodiac, but I do hope that they solve the case but I am not holding my breath

Riverside PD couldn’t figure out their left shoe from their right. They have worked their case making it fit their suspect instead of the suspect fitting the evidence. They have blinders on, and I have no confidence in them. That being said, we don’t know if Cheri’s killer was actually Zodiac, so even if they matched the DNA to a suspect, there’s no guarantee that person was Zodiac, but I do hope that they solve the case but I am not holding my breath

Riverside appear to have more forensic evidence to work with than Vallejo, so the former’s apparent incompetence is incredibly frustrating.

They have worked their case making it fit their suspect instead of the suspect fitting the evidence.

This statement could be applied to most amateur Zodiac investigators too.

They have worked their case making it fit their suspect instead of the suspect fitting the evidence.

This statement could be applied to most amateur Zodiac investigators too.

Yes, and cops should know better. Just apply the GSK method to the Bates evidence, for goodness’ sake.

They have worked their case making it fit their suspect instead of the suspect fitting the evidence.

This statement could be applied to most amateur Zodiac investigators too.

Yes, and cops should know better. Just apply the GSK method to the Bates evidence, for goodness’ sake.

You need a profile in order to do that. With GSK they had a preserved sample.

They have worked their case making it fit their suspect instead of the suspect fitting the evidence.

This statement could be applied to most amateur Zodiac investigators too.

No doubt

The theory must be fit around the evidence, not the evidence around the theory1

Is there an attorney on here?
Does letting a non-police related person have access to evidence potentially damage that evidence being used to solve a case? Especially if the person let in has a criminal record?

Take that crap back to reddit.

It’s an honest question. Why so aggressive?
This forum seems to be one where people can talk about the case without the bullying that goes on at other sites. If a Mod or the owner feels my question is out of line, I will gladly remove it.

I’d absolutely destroy that evidence if it were introduced against MY clients.

quack quack quack

You can bully and insult people on your website. That’s your prerogative.
I will not engage conversation with you here unless you can be respectful.

Hey Everyone, please do NOT use foul language disrespectful language towards ANY member here. If I see that kind of stuff, that will result in a ban.
If you have a difference of opinion, or don’t personally like someone, just avoid them.
If anyone sees any abusive posts or bad language please report it to a moderator

Thank you Mr. Morph and I apologize if my question wasn’t a valid one.
I came to your site because there isn’t the bickering and name calling and bullying you see at the other well-known Z sites. It made me sad to see the same people involved in that nonsense also doing the same thing here.

I’m a fairly new poster here, long time lurker. I’ve posted at all the zodiac sites. Take my advice as you will, lol every has an opinion. But the way to keep your site operating at the highest respect level, and what makes this site different than the others, is to NOT ALLOW the name calling, bullying, and attacking of people who might have a different opinion than others.

Thank You for your forum. It’s the best one.