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You could be right!

 
Posted : December 28, 2018 5:12 am
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You could be right!

LOL, but I could be wrong!

 
Posted : December 28, 2018 5:16 am
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Hmm why Sacramento? As it is the capital of the state of California, and there are several universities in the area with law schools, it could be a project taken on with some law school students, and it’s taking time as they’re volunteers. Also, with physically close ties to state government, it’s possible that funds were found and appropriated from a cost center in state government, and they’re looking into the case. And possibly stuck trying to fund the search, maybe they are doing a crowd sourcing type funding, if that money fell through or changed politically from Gov Brown to Gov Newsom.

Another interesting possibility is: the "Northern California Innocence Project". Lawyers and assistants are donating their time to exonerate death row inmates with DNA.

www.ncip.org This is actually based out of Santa Clara University (in the SF Bay Area but not at or near Sacramento) You may have heard about their work at San Quentin Prison which is in Marin County, and has death row inmates.

http://ncip.org/current-casework/ a graphical pic of CA counties and where they are working on cases

And, of course, I think different government entities are willing to help solve a famous unsolved serial killer from 50 years ago, just like we do here. They would probably want the bragging rights of having finally solved old murders, and giving families and law enforcement involved closure. This can also help their reputation, could help in recruiting candidates from colleges and law school, etc.

 
Posted : January 31, 2019 2:12 am
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It would not surprise me if this whole thing is a ruse by the SCSO. First, it is a fact that they have a full DNA profile of Nancy Bellannack’s killer (from his blood). Second, there are strong suspicions that Nancy was a Zodiac victim.

If both of those things are true, then Sacramento County SO has a full DNA profile of the Zodiac killer.

So, I think it’s quite possible that the information in the original article was accurate, but that the SCSO requested it be changed to not tip their hand. I don’t have any first hand knowledge of this. It’s just speculation on my part.

Still, I stand by what I have said before: if there is a break in the Zodiac case regarding DNA and/or genealogy, then it will come from Sacramento. Not San Fran or Vallejo or Napa.

“Murder will out, this my conclusion.”
– Geoffrey Chaucer

 
Posted : March 5, 2020 1:07 am
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It would not surprise me if this whole thing is a ruse by the SCSO. First, it is a fact that they have a full DNA profile of Nancy Bellannack’s killer (from his blood). Second, there are strong suspicions that Nancy was a Zodiac victim.

If both of those things are true, then Sacramento County SO has a full DNA profile of the Zodiac killer.

So, I think it’s quite possible that the information in the original article was accurate, but that the SCSO requested it be changed to not tip their hand. I don’t have any first hand knowledge of this. It’s just speculation on my part.

Still, I stand by what I have said before: if there is a break in the Zodiac case regarding DNA and/or genealogy, then it will come from Sacramento. Not San Fran or Vallejo or Napa.

Chaucer, do you know where the strong suspicions come from regarding Zodiac being Nancy’s attacker? I’m not sure if I’m imagining this or not, but seems like I recall reading something once about some unreleased information? Perhaps, a Zodiac letter taking credit? I’m not sure if I imagined this, or if I really heard it somewhere. If it’s not because of this, do you know why he is suspected? I’m extremely interested in the Bennallack and Hakari murders, Z or not.

 
Posted : March 5, 2020 2:57 am
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Tom Voigt has suggested that Zodiac was responsible for the Bennallack case. He has said that there is a yet unreleased letter mailed to an unknown recipient in Sacramento from the Zodiac that references the Bennallack murder. He has also said that something included in the Halloween card connects him to the Bennallack murder.

So, to answer your question, this information has come from him. I don’t want to put words in Tom’s mouth, so it would be great if he could come on and clarify any connection between Zodiac and NB.

“Murder will out, this my conclusion.”
– Geoffrey Chaucer

 
Posted : March 5, 2020 3:30 am
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Tom Voigt has suggested that Zodiac was responsible for the Bennallack case. He has said that there is a yet unreleased letter mailed to an unknown recipient in Sacramento from the Zodiac that references the Bennallack murder. He has also said that something included in the Halloween card connects him to the Bennallack murder.

So, to answer your question, this information has come from him. I don’t want to put words in Tom’s mouth, so it would be great if he could come on and clarify any connection between Zodiac and NB.

The Bennallack murder also lines up with Zodiac’s MO. Nancy was evidently stalked by her killer and brutally stabbed to death, with no sexual aspect to the murder. This brings Bates (possibly Zodiac) and Lake Berryessa to mind.

 
Posted : March 5, 2020 3:48 am
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Tom Voigt has suggested that Zodiac was responsible for the Bennallack case. He has said that there is a yet unreleased letter mailed to an unknown recipient in Sacramento from the Zodiac that references the Bennallack murder. He has also said that something included in the Halloween card connects him to the Bennallack murder.

So, to answer your question, this information has come from him. I don’t want to put words in Tom’s mouth, so it would be great if he could come on and clarify any connection between Zodiac and NB.

Wow! Just wow! Thank you! I sure do hope he chimes in!

 
Posted : March 5, 2020 7:48 am
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Actually, I come to the opposite conclusion. Bennallack is a departure from Zodiac’s MO. A single woman rather than a couple or single man. Attacked in her home rather than in a car or remote area. Chosen and stalked rather than a crime of opportunity.

Bennallack is a rather dramatic change in MO which is very much like Zodiac – always changing.

“Murder will out, this my conclusion.”
– Geoffrey Chaucer

 
Posted : March 5, 2020 7:50 am
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Actually, I come to the opposite conclusion. Bennallack is a departure from Zodiac’s MO. A single woman rather than a couple or single man. Attacked in her home rather than in a car or remote area. Chosen and stalked rather than a crime of opportunity.

Bennallack is a rather dramatic change in MO which is very much like Zodiac – always changing.

I think it depends on your point of view. Could it have possibly been that he had gone full circle ? I.e. CJB.

 
Posted : March 5, 2020 12:18 pm
jacob
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Actually, I come to the opposite conclusion. Bennallack is a departure from Zodiac’s MO. A single woman rather than a couple or single man. Attacked in her home rather than in a car or remote area. Chosen and stalked rather than a crime of opportunity.

Bennallack is a rather dramatic change in MO which is very much like Zodiac – always changing.

I think it depends on your point of view. Could it have possibly been that he had gone full circle ? I.e. CJB.

Bates was murdered on October 30, Bennallack on October 25. Perhaps not coincidental he sent a Halloween card.

 
Posted : March 7, 2020 4:31 am
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Just thinking aloud. If Zodiac sent a Halloween card that contained something that cast suspicion on him being NB’s killer, but the DNA turns out to belong to someone who could not have been Zodiac for whatever reason–what does that mean? I would think depending on what was in the Halloween card, it could mean that Zodiac had inside knowledge somehow of the crime scene but was not the killer. Perhaps, through his profession or ?

 
Posted : March 7, 2020 8:12 am
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Is there a dna update?

 
Posted : March 25, 2020 5:31 pm
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Jarive: If the case gets closed, what the hell are we going to do with all our spare time? (I’m 79, so, no, not THAT! :D

hmmm 79 so that mean 2020-79=1941 so you were 28 in 1969. hmmmm

HMMMMMMMMMM

 
Posted : July 4, 2020 5:49 pm
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The Sacramento letter was not sent to an unknown recipient. According to Voigt in like 2006, it was sent to the director of the DMV of California. This dovetails well into the notion that I go over in detail in my book that zodiac had a near obsession with cars and car references in both his crimes and letters.

Mike Rodelli

Author, The Hunt for Zodiac; 3.9 stars on Amazon and
In The Shadow of Mt. Diablo: The Shocking True Identity of the Zodiac Killer, a second edition in print format. 4.3 Amazon stars and great Editorial reviews. Twitter:@mikerodelli

 
Posted : July 5, 2020 12:15 am
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