Lisa Smith…wonder if she is the SRHM Jane Doe?

Or if that is not possible at all? Who else could Jane Doe be, I don’t know about any SR teenager missing..wearing contact lenses, 5’3” tall, presumably auburn hair..

http://www.santarosahitchhikermurders.com/jane_doe.html
https://www.google.at/search?q=lisa+smi … e&ie=UTF-8

Thanks Deborah for the great articles,

QT

Donna lass maybe?

LOL Actual rich people! Maybe I should get ahold of Trump and tell him it would improve his image if he were to back a film about the SRHM. Seriously though, I don’t know that many rich people. I’m afraid any pleas by me for funding would come off like those emails I get from someone who wants to give me millions of dollars. I got one just this week from Richard M. Nickson, can you believe!

Have you considered crowdfunding? I think many true crime followers would interested in a project involving both Zodiac and Ted Bundy as suspects.

The death by poisoning is interesting. I know that Leonard Lake (who had a murderous accomplice named Charles Ng) killed himself by taking a poisonous pill when he knew he was being apprehended. He kept the pill/poison supposedly with him at all times in a pocket of his pants or something.

Carolyn Davis could have been a Zodiac case as a medieval witchcraft symbol was found near her body, pointing to an occult-interested killer. But I learned from the EARONS proboard (discussion here https://earonsgsk.proboards.com/thread/ … ers?page=5) that Leonard Lake spent some time in a neopagan community in Mendocino County, so he also had an apparent occult interest. The sexual sadism seen in the Santa Rosa killings is also much closer to Lake’s MO than Zodiac’s canonical cases.

There are some very interesting parallels between Zodiac and Leonard Lake, but I’m not sure if the timeline of Lake’s early life rules him out as a POI.

I have such a deep historical question that I don’t know if we shall ever get an answer but did any of the SRHM cases involve association with pageants? Basically did they try to enter into Junior Miss contests? That’s the question I have. This is because my research has led me to the following article. Scroll down to the entry form news clipping for Junior Miss submissions. My guy is grayed out. He was receiving the details. viewtopic.php?f=38&t=4855&start=70

Finally!!! I found the name and address of the Larkspur Health Food store that Kim Wendy Allen was working at, and left after finishing work, the day she was murdered:

Larkspur Natural Foods
460 Magnolia Ave
Larkspur, CA 94939, USA

https://www.newspapers.com/newspage/89108031/

"Miss Allen was last seen about 5 p.m. last E’riday when she left her job at Larkspur Natural E’oods at 460 Magnolia Avenue and told coworkers she planned to hitchike to Santa Rosa."

Larkspur Health Food was 11 min drive to where one of my guys worked. He would have driven the 101 all his life.

Fred Manalli can be put within 15 min walk whenever of these guys in numerous ways. I can also put these guys closer to some locations than the ones that also got Manalli noticed.

Foreigner:

viewtopic.php?f=98&t=865&p=60616&hilit=Larkspur#p60616

One second with the search function..

Dig it up at Paradise shallow graves:

viewtopic.php?f=99&t=1822&p=21966&hilit=Tiburon#p21966

Draft board letter mentioned Tiburon, too, btw.

QT

Foreigner:

viewtopic.php?f=98&t=865&p=60616&hilit=Larkspur#p60616

One second with the search function..

Dig it up at Paradise shallow graves:

viewtopic.php?f=99&t=1822&p=21966&hilit=Tiburon#p21966

Draft board letter mentioned Tiburon, too, btw.

QT

Just an observation, not saying that it has to have any significance,
but CJB’s murder Oct 30, 1966 and KWA’s murder Mar 4th, 1972, almost 6 years apart:

CJB’s murder scene:
Riverside City College 4800 Magnolia Avenue, Riverside, CA
CJB’s High School:
Ramona High School at 7675 Magnolia Avenue, Riverside, CA

KWA’s work address which she left less than 1 hour before she vanished:
Larkspur Natural Foods
460 Magnolia Ave
Larkspur, CA 94939, USA

My guy’s address that you have been reading about in the prior posts.

2XX Magnolia Ave, XXXXXXXXXX
California, USA

Foreigner:

https://zodiackillersite.com/viewtopic. … pur#p60616

One second with the search function..

Dig it up at Paradise shallow graves:

https://zodiackillersite.com/viewtopic. … ron#p21966

Draft board letter mentioned Tiburon, too, btw.

QT

Just an observation, not saying that it has to have any significance,
but CJB’s murder Oct 30, 1966 and KWA’s murder Mar 4th, 1972, almost 6 years apart:

CJB’s murder scene:
Riverside City College 4800 Magnolia Avenue, Riverside, CA
CJB’s High School:
Ramona High School at 7675 Magnolia Avenue, Riverside, CA

KWA’s work address which she left less than 1 hour before she vanished:
Larkspur Natural Foods
460 Magnolia Ave
Larkspur, CA 94939, USA

My guy’s address that you have been reading about in the prior posts.

2XX Magnolia Ave, XXXXXXXXXX
California, USA

That is quite interesting BD.

That is quite interesting BD.

A street he lived on once was called Capricorn. I found that interesting also.

Here are my thoughts on ‘coincidences’ like this…

With critical thinking we are taught to reject such coincidences as we can demonstrate they are basically not connected except in name alone. Just popular names.

However the context of this research is important. We are dealing with a serial killer whose writings, especially the Belli letter, appear to display the sort of traits of someone who is not thinking critically like that and is more than likely a functional paranoid schizophrenic thinking these are ‘signs’ pointing the way to his destiny of collecting slaves for his afterlife. Once we drop the Zodiac is a critical thinker we can maybe then see a bit more through the lens of how the Zodiac makes ‘connections’. So all these coincidence groups we notice will one day pay off, IMO. One set will likely be the one that resembles the Zodiac’s point of view. Obviously the Zodiac was not cross-checking everything to make sure there wasn’t several interpretations of what he was doing. We won’t know which set is probably the right one until science confirms the right candidate. In short, because of the inherent subjectivity within this analysis, it can only be supplemented by hard evidence to give it a backbone.

I am big fan of the looking for convergence in independent research meaning several independent researchers finding similarities in some things.

Also just to let you know, the LE guy there in the previous page asking for kids to send him their private details was arrested and charged with prostitution.

viewtopic.php?f=38&t=4855&p=80336#p80336

Is it Richard Dale Andersen? Tarbox hinted towards a Nordic last name, this gut also committed suicide after manalli was killed/committed suicide. butch calsteldt also was closing in on the gang he thought was responsible manalli was one and Andersen Was another, I’ve tried to get more info on Andersen but got nowhere, have to point out it was deb Silva (seagull) who I think has unearthed a major breakthrough in posting about this having spoke to detective butch carlstelt herself

I am interested in that symbol also.

Edit: Thanks for the image link below!

Here’s what it looked like:

I can’t even begin to comprehend how difficult it must have been for those detectives working these cases to deal with them psychologically. These cases are absolutely brutal. The assailant threw some of them hogtied and still alive down embankments. Total psychopath. No regard for any life but saving their own. For any homicide detectives to have gone through all that it is just incomprehensible how they must deal with it all. I can’t even begin to imagine or even relate to it and I just do surface skimming stuff which chills me to the core at times. If it wasn’t for the victims it’s hard to imagine why anyone would even want to look at this case. It’s evil wicked stuff. Much more shocking than Zodiac. More like EARONS shocking.

I can’t even begin to comprehend how difficult it must have been for those detectives working these cases to deal with them psychologically. These cases are absolutely brutal. The assailant threw some of them hogtied and still alive down embankments. Total psychopath. No regard for any life but saving their own. For any homicide detectives to have gone through all that it is just incomprehensible how they must deal with it all. I can’t even begin to imagine or even relate to it and I just do surface skimming stuff which chills me to the core at times. If it wasn’t for the victims it’s hard to imagine why anyone would even want to look at this case. It’s evil wicked stuff. Much more shocking than Zodiac. More like EARONS shocking.

There are many assumptions made about Zodiac. Including that there was no sexual aspect to his crimes and that his killings were not sadistic, in the vein of Dennis Rader or JJD, but merely a means to end for publicity and attention seeking. But if he had anything to do with the SHRM cases then those conclusions are thrown out the window. In the case of Davis, which included the witchcraft symbol, she was poisoned with the pesticide strychnine. An utterly horrific and twisted way to kill someone.