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Seagull
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I’m just moving these over from the old forum.

The first article was written before Paul Stine’s murder was known to be a Zodiac killing.

The second article tells about the letter received by the Chronicle as well as more on Stine’s murder. Of interest to me was that the article states the Stine letter was written with "pale blue ink". Honestly, I don’t see that in the copies of the letter we know but what we don’t know is what generation the copy is in the letter is that is online and how much it may have been darkened along the way.

www.santarosahitchhikermurders.com

 
Posted : November 22, 2013 9:48 pm
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Seagull,

Have you come across any news story around the time of Paul’s death that talks of the activities by police that night? So far, the only thing I have found is what’s stated in the police reports: firetrucks and dogs.

Soze

 
Posted : November 22, 2013 11:28 pm
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No Soze I haven’t. Just that first article on Stine’s murder, written before he was a known Zodiac victim, has anything that comes close. It mentions seven dogs that aided in the search.

The Chronicle articles on Stine’s murder begin with the article on Oct. 12 and the next article is Oct. 15 when then letter with a piece of bloody shirt was received and reported. I have checked the Vallejo paper and the Napa paper, their articles on Stine do not begin until Oct. 15 after the Zodiac letter announcing he killed Stine was received.

The only paper that I’ve not checked is the Examiner because it is not readily available to me.

There were an astounding 22 Chronicle articles written about Zodiac in Oct. 1969, from articles about the LB attack, Stine’s murder, the threat of picking off kiddies, Joe Stine’s challenge, the Dunbar call and LE’s admission they haven’t a clue who Zodiac is or when he will be caught.

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Posted : November 22, 2013 11:51 pm
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The newspapers really shouldn’t have revealed what colour ink Zodiac used to write his letters.

By withholding this information, telling fake letters apart from real ones might have been easier.

 
Posted : November 23, 2013 12:16 am
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The newspapers really shouldn’t have revealed what colour ink Zodiac used to write his letters.

By withholding this information, telling fake letters apart from real ones might have been easier.

Good point, Nacht. That would actually be a very smart way of providing needed information to the public while holding back something not really substantive for authentication of later letters. If it happened today, I guarantee that law enforcement would be dictating (or at least pressuring) the newspaper to hold back some detail such as this. Then again, the final part of the August, 1969 letter which includes his signature of "NO ADDRESS" was apparently not initially made available. I’ve never heard an explanation of that but perhaps it was indeed an attempt by LE to redact some authenticating information?

http://www.zodiackiller.com/ZLetter3.html

 
Posted : November 23, 2013 1:30 am
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Seagull, that first article’s from the Examiner/Chronicle hybrid Sunday edition, with the serif font, ain’t it. ;)

 
Posted : December 16, 2013 5:26 pm
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LOL, yes it is Smithy! Your finally catching on to the newspaper business. :P

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Posted : December 16, 2013 8:35 pm
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I just noticed in the first article, at the end, it says the cabs engine was still running. I thought Z took the cab keys, in order to do that he would have to shut off the engine…

 
Posted : December 17, 2013 8:38 am
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The police report says the meter was running but says nothing about the engine still running. It could have been an error or a bit of confusion in writing the newspaper article.

http://www.zodiackiller.com/StineReport2.html

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Posted : December 17, 2013 9:10 am
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The police report says the meter was running but says nothing about the engine still running. It could have been an error or a bit of confusion in writing the newspaper article.

http://www.zodiackiller.com/StineReport2.html

Yah, I’d go by the PD report before the newspapers…lots of errors in the papers.


…they may be dealing with one or more ersatz Zodiacs–other psychotics eager to get into the act, or perhaps even other murderers eager to lay their crimes at the real Zodiac’s doorstep. L.A. Times, 1969

 
Posted : December 17, 2013 1:20 pm
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The police report says the meter was running but says nothing about the engine still running. It could have been an error or a bit of confusion in writing the newspaper article.

http://www.zodiackiller.com/StineReport2.html

Yah, I’d go by the PD report before the newspapers…lots of errors in the papers.

Yes. Not that they weren’t also erroneous, on occasion, but they were certainly nearer the "source".
That "T.L. Stine" mistake – almost as if the name was mis-heard over a telephone, isn’t it.

 
Posted : December 17, 2013 1:26 pm
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The police report says the meter was running but says nothing about the engine still running. It could have been an error or a bit of confusion in writing the newspaper article.

http://www.zodiackiller.com/StineReport2.html

Yah, I’d go by the PD report before the newspapers…lots of errors in the papers.

Yes. Not that they weren’t also erroneous, on occasion, but they were certainly nearer the "source".
That "T.L. Stine" mistake – almost as if the name was mis-heard over a telephone, isn’t it.

Could have very well been.


…they may be dealing with one or more ersatz Zodiacs–other psychotics eager to get into the act, or perhaps even other murderers eager to lay their crimes at the real Zodiac’s doorstep. L.A. Times, 1969

 
Posted : December 17, 2013 1:43 pm
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