In 2010 Zodiackiller.com posted an obit on Paul Stine’s stephfather, he died 10 Oct 1968 .
In that obit it was stated that Joe C Stine, Paul Stine’s brother, lived in Vallejo.
However no address on Joe in the Vallejo area has ever been located.
Today I found the Joe C Stine 1967 address !!!
California Napa 1967 Napa, California, City Directory, 1967
STINE JOE C (HELEN E) WHSEMN TRADE FAIR 244 FOOTHILL BLVD …. 226-9183
Anyone know what the "WHSEMN TRADE FAIR" stands for?
Here is a link to the 010 Zodiackiller.com posted an obit on Paul Stine’s stephfather.
http://zodiackiller.fr.yuku.com/topic/5 … U6td9rtmko
Joe Charles Stine was:
Born June 10, 1935 in Oklahoma
Married Helen E Fahrney 1960
Divorced Helen E Fahrney Sept 1970 (Kings County, CA)
Died Aug 1, 1981 (last resident Modesto CA)
Spouse: Helen Eileen Stine
Father: Theodore Milford Stine
Mother: Audra Thelma Harrison
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If I had to guess, I would say it stood for warehouse manager.
Interesting that Stine had connections to Vallejo,Napa &Modesto
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http://www.pcgenweb.com/pcgs/meaning/abbreviation_1.htm
whsemn warehouseman
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warehouseman
A warehouseman or someone resembling a warehouseman can be someone who works in a warehouse, usually delivering goods for sale or storage, or, in older usage, someone who owns a warehouse and sells goods directly from it or from a shop fronting onto the warehouse (similar to a modern Cash and carry)
Cool TF!
….near the corner of Roosevelt and Pine. (Means nothing)
Thanks morf, jroberson and Tahoe
And Paul and Joe Stine’s sister Cxxxx was married to Alford Zed Nease in 1966, and in 1967 they were listed in VALLEJO:
California Vallejo 1967 Vallejo, California, City Directory, 1967
NEASE ALFORD Z (Cxxxx ) MACH OPR 1225 TAYLOR AV
And
in 1973 they were listed in Vallejo, CA
California Vallejo 1973 Vallejo, California, City Directory, 1973
Nease Alford Z (Cxxxx L) driver 46 Beverly Dr
For whatever reason I cannot find them listed in ANY California address in 1968-1972 !!!??? ODD!
Especially due to they had a son in Solano County July 12,1968.
Cxxxx L Stine married Alford in 1966, in 1968 they have a son in Solano County, so I assume Cxxxx lived in the Vallejo area probably already 1966 and forth at least to 1979 (see additional marriages in Solano County)
Cxxxx married 2 more times in Solano County
May 1973 to Albert G Self
and
April 1976 Barry L Irwin
So Paul Stine’s sister lived, married 3 times and had at least 2 children ( sons in 1968 and 1977) in Solano County.
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Found Alford Z and Cxxxx Nease in the 1968-1969 Vallejo, California, City Directory
They were spelled Neace insted of Nease .
California Vallejo 1969 Vallejo, California, City Directory, 1968-1969
NEACE ALFORD Z (Cxxxx L ) 1225 TAYLOR AV
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Morf you have RH suspect, with ties to Southern California, living on Taylor Ave in Vallejo in 1970, the same street Paul Stine’s sister and her husband Alford Z Nease lived at also in the 1970.
Here is a link, its the guy with a picture, apparently with middle name "Lee" posted by you Sun Aug 04, 2013 10:07 am:
http://zodiackillersite.com/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=801
Could you please share his full name so that I can find out how close he lived to Paul Stines sister and her husband?
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Odd too is that Carol never mentioned this (zk.com chat)…in fact, stated Joe never lived in Vallejo (I don’t recall Napa either) and she never said she did.
Maybe technically Joe didn’t (Napa), but someone told the obit people he lived in Vallejo at the end of ’68–that’s not pulled out of thin air. I wonder why Carol wouldn’t say SHE had lived in Vallejo?
(Please don’t mistake this as me thinking Carol was Zodiac. )
I’v had the very same thought Tahoe, very odd indeed, and I sure would like to know what her explanation is for not telling about her extensive connection to Vallejo, and Joe’s too.
By the way Joe Stine’s 1967 listed Napa address, 244 FOOTHILL BLVD, NAPA, is located 2.3 miles S/W of the Napa phone booth (Maine ST/ Clinton St) Zodiac called from Sept 27, 1969.
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Actually this is NEW and has nothing to do with that thread you linked.
Paul Stine’s family having addresses in the areas of the murders could have validity to the case somehow. Is it a long-shot? Probably, but it is still of interest.
Edit: Just to confirm – Carol and her husband are in the 1967 Vallejo Polk as well.
wow…the news does open some theories so long ago discounted as fringe lunatic theories..but I being more sensible wonder why carol did not divulge this info?..she had to have known….stine may not have been so random which would explain why Z left rural (relatively) and went into sfpd jurisdiction..if any of this is undeniable proven factual it would explain may be why Z took the risk in SF that he did..some family member has a skelton in the closet and has been trying to keep it contained (embarrassment) is 1 belief I have as why we are still years later striving to solve this case..unbelievable and simply comical she had not known of this years ago..i guess my response is what the hell..
There is something wrong here. I do not believe that Paul Stine’s sister Carol lived in Vallejo, ever. I think TF may have stumbled upon a different Carol Stine.
This is Roy Harrison’s obit from Oct. 1968. Carol’s last name was Hyter and she was living in Greenville Mississippi at the time of her step-father’s death.
Adding that Paul Stine’s obit says that sister Carol’s last name is Hyter. The obit is posted at Find A Grave. Not sure why brother Joe is not mentioned in the obit.
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cg … d=18127217
Thanks for the clarification Seagull. Makes sense then why she didn’t mention she lived in Vallejo….phew.
But, it appears the info on Joe Stine is accurate.