If Zodiac’s guns were all obtained under the counter or by some other shady means, like he claims they were, it stands to reason that he would not publicly admit to owning any of them, much less shoot them in public when he was not murdering people. I think it’s pretty likely that Zodiac ditched every single weapon he used shortly after each murder. The knife he used at Berryessa he may actually even have flung out into the lake while he fled the scene.
The second question is more relevant. It would be interesting to see what kind of car the guy drove at the time, if any at all. I wonder if DMV records go back that far.
I sort of agree with some of the stuff you said. He could have purchased guns undr the table,kept it quiet. But a guy like Z would have shot the guns at ranges,etc. Many times, Friends & Buddies shoot together, etc. Guns are expensive,I highly doubt that Zodiac would throw the gun away after each attack. The only way I could see him getting rid of the guns is if he suspected the police were onto him,and he wanted to ditch everything.
The cars questions are indeed valid. We know Zodiac didn’t take cabs t the crime scenes,well,that is except for the Stine murder.
You can buy cheap burner guns for a couple hundred bucks. The calibers he used were easy and cheap to acquire. I would even posit that he might have used stolen cars for the crimes, too.
But a guy like Z would have shot the guns at ranges,etc.
With all due respect, I see no evidence that zodiac shot regularly at ranges. Nothing he did makes me think he was skilled with a gun.
BRS leads me to believe that he was no expert marksman. He had Ferrin and Mageau in parked car and couldn’t pull off a headshot? I am sure there were plenty of backroads areas where Z could practice shooting if he was so inclined. I don’t know that he would advertise owning guns, though. He might have tried to hide that.
the whole gun argument in regards to gake is pure BS in my mind..he could have never handled a firearm and within 5 seconds could have have a round chambered and pulled the trigger (guns are simple a 5 year old can figure it out)..these were close up shootings so zero practice required-just point and shoot.sorry just do not see a viable argument against gake with the gun angle ..the whole love of gake surrounds Narlow saying gake may have been at the ferrin painting party…many ran with that and have continued to do so..gake is interesting but i do not think he is Z..the albany connection is interesting to me but what comes from that is up for debate and argument if and when anything is ever found…gake and access to cars who cares its not like you cant borrow a car from a buddy but i think Z would never have done that..a mechanic would have access to cars and nobody would be non the wiser 40 plus years ago about extra miles especially if somebody argued about 100 extra miles on the car..Z could have easily said you had tranny problems so i drove it 100 miles with no issue..seems like a good mechanic to me and to the 70 year old granny it would seem as if Z cared…would gake have been picked in a lineup by Johns? (yes i think Johns was with Z)..I highly doubt it so another strike against…Blaine, goldcatcher whatever you want to call him also got ahold of carol stine years ago and pushed gake..that right there is enuff for me to question gake..but what do i know..i have no suspect and never will..I see Z-ness attributes in a lot of POI’s..i will never question who you have for a POI but you will need Facts and NOT THEORIES for your guy to stand scrutiny (hell i like ted K at about 4.389% like as being Z)
He was a combat medic. He was trained to use firearms. You really don’t forget that. It is somewhat of a perishable skill in regards to maximum proficiency. But I can see an ex-military guy who hasn’t touch a gun in 20 years still being a decent marksman without much practice. He wasn’t doing MOUT drills, or building entry scenarios. He was firing at defenseless people at very close range.
so basically zero evidence for Gaik?
why is this guy even a suspect at all?
Read this and make up your own mind:
http://zodiackiller.com/SuspectGaikowski.html
How is this any stronger than Rodelli’s evidence for Kjell Qvale? At least he can place Qvale at a Zodiac crime scene! Is there any evidence tying him to a crime scene? Tying him to Darlene Ferrin is basically meaningless because Vallejo was a small town, she had lots of suitors, and many people probably knew from waitressing. If you can tie him to Faraday or Jensen, I would be more impressed.
He was a combat medic. He was trained to use firearms. You really don’t forget that.
Great shot at LHR, not so much at BRS, which means there clearly was a reason for the decline. Likely under the influence at BRS as many were that holiday weekend.
He was a combat medic. He was trained to use firearms. You really don’t forget that.
Great shot at LHR, not so much at BRS, which means there clearly was a reason for the decline. Likely under the influence at BRS as many were that holiday weekend.
I have never heard that before. Maybe. Interesting thought. But, I am not sure he was a "great shot" at LHR. With a .22, I can only imagine how easy it would be to shoot a woman running on gravel in high heels. I don’t think it was a feat of great marksmanship, as a .22 has virtually no recoil and it’s not like she was cutting like Todd Gurley.
Betty wasn’t wearing high heels.
He was a combat medic. He was trained to use firearms. You really don’t forget that.
Great shot at LHR, not so much at BRS, which means there clearly was a reason for the decline. Likely under the influence at BRS as many were that holiday weekend.
Jensen didn’t get far enough away for us to describe the bullets in her back as great shots (and with a light attached to his gun to help him out.) At BRS he put a lot of bullets into both victims. It was a miracle Mageau survived.
At all crime scenes except PH, Z left while his victims were still alive. I don’t think the fact Mike survived, with at least 4 bullet wounds, to be evidence Z was "likely under the influence."
There has been a lot of discussion how many shots were fired at BRS, and how many bullets hit either (or both) Darlene and Mike. Tom, how many shots do you think were fired and how many do you think missed? In other words, on what do you base your opinion that Z was likely under the influence based on his shooting ability at BRS?
Betty wasn’t wearing high heels.
Whatever her footwear, she wasn’t wearing cleats that would allow her to zigzag and cut on a gravel road. A .22 is actually pretty accurate at that range, so he didn’t need to be a great shot. I think he clearly had some experience with firearms, though. It wasn’t his first rodeo.
Betty wasn’t wearing high heels.
Tom, we can quibble about what is considered "high", but in the LHR crime scene photos, she was wearing sandals that had a heel, maybe 2-3 inches? In any event, those were not the type of footwear that would allow her to run quickly on gravel, which was my point. I bet she ran in a straight line, which made her an easy target at the distance her body was found from the car, which could have been yards from where the first shots were fired. I contend that even an average marksman has no trouble making those shots.
He was a great shot at LHR compared to at BRS.
He was a great shot at LHR compared to at BRS.
No argument from me there. Different caliber? 9mm has more recoil than a .22. If he was used to a .22 and recently switched to a 9mm, I could see having problems. Also, it could be the weapon. I bought a pistol once secondhand and later discovered that the barrel was bent just slightly. Makes you wonder how he got his weapons.
RG is yet another person whose name should never have been dragged into the "Zodiac Case."
RG has zero provable connections to the crimes and no evidence links him to anything. It is all hot air. It is no coincidence that law enforcement are not at all interested in RG.
Amateur investigators abated their critical thinking skills when they accused this guys of involvement in these horrible crimes.
They also dragged an innocent person through the mud for their own purposes.
That was too much!
So Ken Narlow was an idiot, huh?
Actually, no suspect has any evidence linking them to any of the crimes,
Also, name one suspect who has a strong connection to both Stine and Darlene that isn’t Gaik.
